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Hacking Speculations about Switch 2 hacking

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karmesin said:
Software is written by humans. Humans make errors. Errors create vulnerabilities. This chain is unbreakable.
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It all comes down to quality control. I once worked as QC in my workplace, and my job was to detect mistakes made by other people. Of course, that doesn't mean I couldn't make mistakes myself checking for mistakes. Now what if there had been another QC above me who had checked my work to make sure I didn't make mistakes. And what if there had been a third QC checking the work of the second QC guy? Every time you add a level of error checking, you reduce the chances that an error actually slipped through. If this is the approach that Nintendo took, then the chances of an existing vulnerability, now or in the future, is pretty slim.
 
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Dust2dust said:
It all comes down to quality control. I once worked as QC in my workplace, and my job was to detect mistakes made by other people. Of course, that doesn't mean I couldn't make mistakes myself checking for mistakes. Now what if there had been another QC above me who had checked my work to make sure I didn't make mistakes. And what if there had been a third QC checking the work of the second QC guy? Every time you add a level of error checking, you reduce the chances that an error actually slipped through. If this is the approach that Nintendo took, then the chances of an existing vulnerability, now or in the future, is pretty slim.
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Too many cooks spoil the broth.

Quality assurance scales horizontally, not vertically. Serial reviewers inherit each other's blind spots and diffuse accountability. The opposite of rigor. Independent eyes on the same problem in parallel is the only arrangement that actually multiplies catch rate. See: diffusion of responsibility. Also its unhealthy expensive and can only find issues where they're looking for.

The Switch 2 changes nothing about that calculus. Nintendo depends on third-party silicon vendors whose security posture ends where their profit margin begins. No amount of Nintendo money buys control over a supply chain they don't own. In the past it was very clear: the attack surface is inherited, not designed.

My personal 2ct: im betting on the next major exploit will likely be found by an AI, using attack vectors a human developer or security researcher wouldn't even consider a viable surface.



PS: Heh. This is post no #666.
 
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karmesin said:
The Switch 2 changes nothing about that calculus. Nintendo depends on third-party silicon vendors whose security posture ends where their profit margin begins. No amount of Nintendo money buys control over a supply chain they don't own. In the past it was very clear: the attack surface is inherited, not designed.

My personal 2ct: im betting on the next major exploit will likely be found by an AI, using attack vectors a human developer or security researcher wouldn't even consider a viable surface.
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No system is impenetrable. Anyone claiming otherwise has either never opened a security textbook or is deliberately ignoring what every university course on the subject covers in week one. This isn't opinion. It's the foundational premise of the entire field.

So dunno if you're trolling or...
 
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karmesin said:
No system is impenetrable. Anyone claiming otherwise has either never opened a security textbook or is deliberately ignoring what every university course on the subject covers in week one. This isn't opinion. It's the foundational premise of the entire field.

So dunno if you're trolling or...
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karmesin said:
No system is impenetrable. Anyone claiming otherwise has either never opened a security textbook or is deliberately ignoring what every university course on the subject covers in week one. This isn't opinion. It's the foundational premise of the entire field.

So dunno if you're trolling or...
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There are PLENTY of systems that have NEVER, EVER been hacked, and the Switch 2 is simply one of them. I was working in IT for the biggest software company in human history before the people who wrote your silly little textbook were even born. I went to the same high school as Kevin Mitnick and graduated two years after him, ffs. I know security. You clearly do not. Plenty of systems are imprenetrable. Many have been in use for DECADES without a single incident.

So dunno if you're ignorant or trolling, but... The Switch 2 will NOT be hacked. And, of course, it matters not one bit whether or not every other Nintendo and Sony handheld or console has been hacked. That is 100% irrelevant as to whether the Switch 2 will be. Which it won't. No amount of pointing to old hackable game machines of the past is going to change that one bit.
 
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ChibiMofo said:
There are PLENTY of systems that have NEVER, EVER been hacked, and the Switch 2 is simply one of them. I was working in IT for the biggest software company in human history before the people who wrote your silly little textbook were even born. I went to the same high school as Kevin Mitnick and graduated two years after him, ffs. I know security. You clearly do not. Plenty of systems are imprenetrable. Many have been in use for DECADES without a single incident.

So dunno if you're ignorant or trolling, but... The Switch 2 will NOT be hacked. And, of course, it matters not one bit whether or not every other Nintendo and Sony handheld or console has been hacked. That is 100% irrelevant as to whether the Switch 2 will be. Which it won't. No amount of pointing to old hackable game machines of the past is going to change that one bit.
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I've gotta laugh because the two "credentials" you gave are not valid credentials to backup your claim lol
 
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gbazone said:
There must already be undisclosed exploits. And every disclosed flaw that is patched is an opportunity for use on lower system versions. Frankly, I just want Linux. The screen is big enough and the hardware is good enough for it to be of practical use.
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I mean a few minor bugs were reported to the bug program already. But they've all been minor things. I mean ACE is very much possible (albeit through ROP and extremely limited). The ability to compromise the kernel is whats going to take a long time to figure out. I mean we know for a fact that the current build of HOS is free of any kernel exploits. However the hardware end has had minimal exploration.
 
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