Couy Griffin is disqualified for holding office after actions relating to january 6th

[TraderPatTX]

Officer Brian D. Sicknick died the next day from injuries sustained during the riot.
Officer Jeffrey Smith and Officer Howard S. Liebengood ended their life within a week because of the emotional trauma they experience because of the event.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-sicknick-capitol-riot-died-natural-causes/

You didn't refute anything. You just proved that nobody died on Jan 6th and none of them died at the hands of any Trump supporter.

The only people who were killed that day were two women. One was shot and the other, Roseanne Boyland, was beaten to death outside by Capitol police.

 

[vincentx77]

Other neurologists disagreed with that assessment. An officer had two strokes the night of the riots, yet magically those riots had nothing to do with his death? Bullshit. And Trump won the election.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Other neurologists disagreed with that assessment. An officer had two strokes the night of the riots, yet magically those riots had nothing to do with his death? Bullshit. And Trump won the election.

What part of he died the next day do you not understand? And there is no hard evidence that the two events are related, except in your imagination.

Not a single Capitol police officer died on Jan 6. Try again, young man, or maybe not. You're not very good at this.

Back to the topic at hand, a man is barred for running for office because of a misdemeanor. Nobody that day has been convicted or even charged with insurrection, treason or sedition. The 14th amendment doesn't even apply in this case. Try addressing the actual topic and see if you can do any better.

 

[RAHelllord]

I love to see the right cope and seethe.

Looking forward to plenty more right wing politicians and judges being barred from office for their actions in relation to January 6th.

 

[vincentx77]

What part of he died the next day do you not understand? And there is no hard evidence that the two events are related, except in your imagination.

Not a single Capitol police officer died on Jan 6. Try again, young man, or maybe not. You're not very good at this.

Back to the topic at hand, a man is barred for running for office because of a misdemeanor. Nobody that day has been convicted or even charged with insurrection, treason or sedition. The 14th amendment doesn't even apply in this case. Try addressing the actual topic and see if you can do any better.

Who gives a fuck? He still had the stroke on the same day, and several neurologists believed it to be a contributing factor. That does not address the officers who were so distraught over those events that they took their own lives over the shit they saw that day, but I'm sure that doesn't matter to you. They were just weak, right?

Let me make one thing clear to you. I'm not young. I just hate conservative bullshit.

The fact of the matter is that Jan 6 was an insurrection, and those involved should be barred from holding public office, Trump included. Hopeful, the cheeto will be in prison by the time the next election rolls around, but I won't hold my breath. You repubs are far to corrupt to ever let that happen.

 

[mituzora]

Who gives a fuck? He still had the stroke on the same day, and several neurologists believed it to be a contributing factor. That does not address the officers who were so distraught over those events that they took their own lives over the shit they saw that day, but I'm sure that doesn't matter to you. They were just weak, right?

Let me make one thing clear to you. I'm not young. I just hate conservative bullshit.

The fact of the matter is that Jan 6 was an insurrection, and those involved should be barred from holding public office, Trump included. Hopeful, the cheeto will be in prison by the time the next election rolls around, but I won't hold my breath. You repubs are far to corrupt to ever let that happen.

You're wasting your breath with Pat. He doesn't listen to anybody but his own voice. I've tried reasoning with him on posts like this before, and all he ever wants to hear is "you're a lefty, so your points are irrelevant"

I think it's funny how the Jan 6th incident is always compared to the riots and that they're supposed to be taken equally as bad.

One was geared towards random shit(and the "looting" and shit is well over-blown too), one was literally a storm on the capital. They are definitely not the same. Sure they're both not okay, but one is essentially treason, one is vandalism. I would think the former would hold a much larger weight in terms of consequences. don't you?

 

[vincentx77]

You're wasting your breath with Pat. He doesn't listen to anybody but his own voice. I've tried reasoning with him on posts like this before, and all he ever wants to hear is "you're a lefty, so your points are irrelevant"

I think it's funny how the Jan 6th incident is always compared to the riots and that they're supposed to be taken equally as bad.

One was geared towards random shit(and the "looting" and shit is well over-blown too), one was literally a storm on the capital. They are definitely not the same. Sure they're both not okay, but one is essentially treason, one is vandalism. I would think the former would hold a much larger weight in terms of consequences. don't you?

I don't understand how the "YAY! America!" people can be so nonchalant about treason, which Jan 6 definitely was. The mental gymnastics they have been doing to say it wasn't republican's fault, to say it wasn't Trump's doing, and to shift the blame to outside groups like Antifa absolutely blow my mind. It's like they can't speak without lying. I don't know if it's cognitive dissonance or just willful disregard of every bit of evidence right in front of them.

But yeah... I kinda figured he wouldn't listen. That didn't mean I wasn't going to bitch about it, though!

 

[mituzora]

I don't understand how the "YAY! America!" people can be so nonchalant about treason, which Jan 6 definitely was. The mental gymnastics they have been doing to say it wasn't republican's fault, to say it wasn't Trump's doing, and to shift the blame to outside groups like Antifa absolutely blow my mind. It's like they can't speak without lying. I don't know if it's cognitive dissonance or just willful disregard of every bit of evidence right in front of them.

But yeah... I kinda figured he wouldn't listen. That didn't mean I wasn't going to bitch about it, though!

That's the thing. If it happened with a different party/presedent, they absolutely would be calling for their heads. but because it happened to their party of choice, then there MUST be some reason that it's not treason.

Imagine if it was clinton supporters (which mind you isn't a thing because most left leaning people don't go all cultist with their president like recent years) that stormed the capital. they would be singing a completely different tune.

I don't blame Trump entirely personally. Though his pure presence in the white house was enough of a catalyst to set these "Good ol' boys" off into storming the capital, so by that extension, I guess I blame Trump lol.

It's crazy that the prior president of the US created a cult. A cult so blinded by left hatred that they can't even see the insurrection right in-front of their eyes.

 

[Xzi]

They get mad not because someone has been made to "face the consequences" but because there is no parity. I think the Hunter Biden example given above is a poor one, but Code Pink repeatedly breaking into the Senate and House chambers to disrupt proceedings when GWB was President is a good example. The riots in DC during Trump's inauguration and outside the White House in May 2020 are good examples. Leftist protesters and rioters get a pass, police are ordered to accommodate their chaos, theft, and destruction, mayors endorse providing them "space to destroy." But fools who got swept up into a crowd being waved into the US Capitol by Capitol Police on Jan 6, who just walked around and took selfies (some were belligerent and disruptive, but many did nothing but "trespass"), are being sentenced to 5 years in prison or more after a year and a half of pretrial detention without bail. It's not that their crimes are being punished that is objectionable. It's that the punishments are disproportionate, and that the crimes of others aressimply ignored or even praised.

All of these are poor comparisons because none of them have anything to do with violently disrupting the peaceful transfer of power. After pulling a stunt like that, disqualification from holding public office is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. You and the other conservatives here are acting as though he got life in prison.

And god forbid the cops have to act slightly humble or timid for one summer after they themselves were the spark that set off protests to begin with. Don't worry, the poor wittle babies went right back to their old murderous ways just weeks after the Chauvin conviction. 'Accountability' is still a four letter word amongst police unions, just as it is amongst republicans.

 

[vincentx77]

I don't blame Trump entirely personally. Though his pure presence in the white house was enough of a catalyst to set these "Good ol' boys" off into storming the capital, so by that extension, I guess I blame Trump lol.

It's crazy that the prior president of the US created a cult. A cult so blinded by left hatred that they can't even see the insurrection right in-front of their eyes.

I do blame Trump personally. His tweet that read "Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump https://t.co/D8KrMHnFdK . A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!" and the ones that followed whipped his followers into such a frenzy, on some level, they felt like that had no other recourse but to act. He brainwashed those people and many of them are. If he'd been a decent human being and accepted the results of a democratic election like an adult, none of this would've happened. We wouldn't be here having to discuss whether people should be disqualified from holding office because they participated in insurrection. The whole thing really just disgusts me.

 

[mituzora]

I do blame Trump personally. His tweet that read "Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump https://t.co/D8KrMHnFdK . A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!" and the ones that followed whipped his followers into such a frenzy, on some level, they felt like that had no other recourse but to act. He brainwashed those people and many of them are. If he'd been a decent human being and accepted the results of a democratic election like an adult, none of this would've happened. We wouldn't be here having to discuss whether people should be disqualified from holding office because they participated in insurrection. The whole thing really just disgusts me.

That's fair, and I agree for the most part. I think anyone involved shouldn't be allowed back into political power. And I'm not saying I think trump is innocent, because he absolutely played a part, which means I don't think he should be allowed to hold office again either. The only amount of blame I relieve from him is the that I guess he didn't physically storm the capital himself, but he certainly did incite the riot, so I guess that doesn't relieve him from much does it? lmao

 

[vincentx77]

Nope, not too much. Especially since it was such a hardship for him to call off his peeps that he waited, what, 3 hours to make a statement telling them to stand down? All the while he was watching the mayhem unfold on Fox News. I've only got three words. LOCK HIM UP!

 

[lolcatzuru]

ahh communism, welcome to america!

 

[lolcatzuru]

That's fair, and I agree for the most part. I think anyone involved shouldn't be allowed back into political power. And I'm not saying I think trump is innocent, because he absolutely played a part, which means I don't think he should be allowed to hold office again either. The only amount of blame I relieve from him is the that I guess he didn't physically storm the capital himself, but he certainly did incite the riot, so I guess that doesn't relieve him from much does it? lmao

not only should he back in office , anyone who believes otherwise should be jailed with no jury or trial period.

 

[mituzora]

not only should he back in office , anyone who believes otherwise should be jailed with no jury or trial period.

Cultism. Case and point.

 

[lolcatzuru]

Cultism. Case and point.

if its cultist to go against a coup then yes, im a cultist i guess # cultistlivesmatter

 

[Xzi]

Congrats, leftists, you've brought fascism to our shores.

ahh communism, welcome to america!

"Fascist communism is when constitutional law is enforced." - Republicans

 

[TraderPatTX]

Who gives a fuck? He still had the stroke on the same day, and several neurologists believed it to be a contributing factor. That does not address the officers who were so distraught over those events that they took their own lives over the shit they saw that day, but I'm sure that doesn't matter to you. They were just weak, right?

Believing something to be true does not make it true. And you have provided zero proof that those two officers' suicides were caused by the events of that day. You are arguing using pure emotion not based in facts.

Let me make one thing clear to you. I'm not young. I just hate conservative bullshit.

Your hate does not concern me.

The fact of the matter is that Jan 6 was an insurrection, and those involved should be barred from holding public office, Trump included.

Then it's the only insurrection where not a single person has been charged for insurrection. Once again, you are arguing based on emotion.

Hopeful, the cheeto will be in prison by the time the next election rolls around, but I won't hold my breath. You repubs are far to corrupt to ever let that happen.

Are the walls closing in or is this the beginning of the end for Drumpf? Do you even know who runs the DOJ now? Garland could indict Trump any time he pleases for Russian collusion, the Ukraine phone call, the Georgia phone call, inshurekshun or any number of "crimes" he's supposedly committed in the last 6 years. Yet, the only thing I see is Drumpf playing golf and doing massive rallies around the country living his best life without a worry in the world.

You may not be young, but you sure are immature.

 

[mituzora]

not only should he back in office , anyone who believes otherwise should be jailed with no jury or trial period.

if its cultist to go against a coup then yes, im a cultist i guess # cultistlivesmatter

So you're telling me that a belief that if anyone disagrees that a former idiot of a president shouldn't be back in office, they should be jailed period, no exceptions isn't cultist behaivor?

oh wait, nah, it's not cultist, it's pretty fuckin' fascisit. Oh, wait, they're kinda in the same ballpark aren't they?

fuck outta here with that bullshit.

 

[lolcatzuru]

"Fascist communism is when constitutional law is enforced." - Republicans

well brandon is in office, so yea it seems like it.