January 6th hearings

[TraderPatTX]

See I know that is a lie because there ballot drop boxes in Georgia in by at least 2004-2005, I even used one in 2008 to cast my vote. Either you are not old enough to know that, got some bad information, or are just downright lying right now.

How so? Once a Ballot was cast it couldn't be cast multiple times, even when being mailed in or dropped of fand a double vote would be pretty damn obvious. Also, who else do you think had access to them? You need something very specific to open them and the slots are too small for anyone to fit their hands in them. Don't really know what you are implying unless you believe the whole "Ballots were thrown out" spiel that got disproven multiple times.



Again if it was a problem before the election why was it not addressed sooner? And before you say "They didn't authorize them" might want to google all the ballot boxes that have pictures in Wisconsin because almost all of them say they are official and from whatever county/city they are located in and there are some that have pictures at least from 2016 so you can't say they didn't exist yet again.


Executive will give you that one , but uh, federal laws are passed all the time and apply to everyone in the US and even override state laws. For a good example, if they REALLY wanted to they could bust everyone in Colorado for possession if they so wished as it is still illegal on a federal level.


Again only half right, as laws passed by Congress are written into Federal Law and can easily be enforced if they so chose to enforce them. Not that I think that is 100% a good thing, but it is what it is. Article VI Paragraph 2 AKA the Supremecy clause even states: the federal constitution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions.

Damn dude. Do you know the difference between Georgia and Wisconsin? I didn't even read the rest of your comment because you don't even know what state I am talking about.

 

[SonowRaevius]

Damn dude. Do you know the difference between Georgia and Wisconsin? I didn't even read the rest of your comment because you don't even know what state I am talking about.

Damn Dude, if you had you would have seen that there have been ballot drop off boxes backed officially by the counties and cities in Wisconsin that have existed since at least 2016 or even before meaning you are still a liar and/or don't know what you are talking about.

Even then, you still said that they didn't exists anywhere before 2020, you didn't specify Wisconsin anyway so good job on being wrong again.

Though, it is what I should expect from someone who argues constantly in bad faith, avoids facts they don't like, and dodges questions that make them look hypocritical.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Damn Dude, if you had you would have seen that there have been ballot drop off boxes backed officially by the counties and cities in Wisconsin that have existed since at least 2016 or even before meaning you are still a liar and/or don't know what you are talking about.

Even then, you still said that they didn't exists anywhere before 2020, you didn't specify Wisconsin anyway so good job on being wrong again.

Though, it is what I should expect from someone who argues constantly in bad faith, avoids facts they don't like, and dodges questions that make them look hypocritical.

My comment started with "Wisconsin Supreme Court..."

Do you even read, bro? Stop making a fool of yourself and take the L.

 

[SonowRaevius]

Before 2020, ballot drop boxes were only found in election clerk offices so they can retain a chain of custody of the ballots.

Now I want you to re-read your own quote.

I don't see you saying "In Wisconsin they were only found in clerk offices.", you said that they weren't found at all. Now maybe you meant to say only Wisconsin, but that is not what you said here,

Given that you are prone to lying, I am not going to give you the benefit of the doubt on this.

You could argue that I should have known what you meant as well, but given as you like to twist your words and information when it suits you, there is no way I would have known if you meant JUST Wisconsin or not.

Even then I still had Wisconsin included in my statement, which I even told I did, so who's the one that can't read or comprehend thing here?

 

[TraderPatTX]

Now I want you to re-read your own quote.

I don't see you saying "In Wisconsin they were only found in clerk offices.", you said that they weren't found at all. Now maybe you meant to say only Wisconsin, but that is not what you said here,

Given that you are prone to lying, I am not going to give you the benefit of the doubt on this.

You could argue that I should have known what you meant as well, but given as you like to twist your words and information when it suits you, there is no way I would have known if you meant JUST Wisconsin or not.

Even then I still had Wisconsin included in my statement, which I even told I did, so who's the one that can't read or comprehend thing here?

Since the first word of my comment was Wisconsin, that was the first clue that I was talking about Wisconsin. I can't put it any plainer that I was talking about Wisconsin for you to understand. Did you notice that I'm talking about Wisconsin here?

 

[SonowRaevius]

Since the first word of my comment was Wisconsin, that was the first clue that I was talking about Wisconsin. I can't put it any plainer that I was talking about Wisconsin for you to understand. Did you notice that I'm talking about Wisconsin here?

I also talked about Wisconsin.

You would have noticed if you had read what I said about Wisconsin.

Which referred to the fact that officially government back ballot boxes were in Wisconsin at 2016 at the very least.

Maybe if you weren't so focused on that fact that I didn't bring up Wisconsin initially you would have in fact noticed that what you said about Wisconsin is still false.

So take 3 L's here. One for losing the argument that I wasn't also talking about Wisconsin. Another for being wrong about ballot boxes in Wisconsin. Finally, your third for being a straight up capital "L" Liar til the very end.

 

[TraderPatTX]

I also talked about Wisconsin.

You would have noticed if you had read what I said about Wisconsin.

Which referred to the fact that officially government back ballot boxes were in Wisconsin at 2016 at the very least.

Maybe if you weren't so focused on that fact that I didn't bring up Wisconsin initially you would have in fact noticed that what you said about Wisconsin is still false.

So take 3 L's here. One for losing the argument that I wasn't also talking about Wisconsin. Another for being wrong about ballot boxes in Wisconsin. Finally, your third for being a straight up capital "L" Liar til the very end.

First of all, you were talking about Georgia and I called you out.

Second, you do understand that somebody has to bring a lawsuit for the courts to rule on it, right? Courts don't just rule on things they see in the world. Since nobody brought a lawsuit until recently, the court never ruled on it in 2016. Why am I having to explain simple concepts to you?

 

[Deleted member 559230]

So if we're having hearings over riots when are the tens of thousands of hearings going to happen for the BLM riots that took place?

 

[SyphenFreht]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...-of-the-black-lives-matter-protests-where-do/

https://apnews.com/article/american...ota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7

Imagine being so white supremacist you ignore the thousands of arrests made during the BLM riots cuz you're jealous no one in the Jan 6 bullshit is getting off scot free.

 

[LainaGabranth]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...-of-the-black-lives-matter-protests-where-do/

https://apnews.com/article/american...ota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7

Imagine being so white supremacist you ignore the thousands of arrests made during the BLM riots cuz you're jealous no one in the Jan 6 bullshit is getting off scot free.

I eagerly await the inevitable cope from the right of "W-W-WELL EVERYONE WHO PROTESTED SHOULD BE ARRESTED, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING"

I swear these goobers get offended by ANYTHING these days.

 

[SyphenFreht]

I eagerly await the inevitable cope from the right of "W-W-WELL EVERYONE WHO PROTESTED SHOULD BE ARRESTED, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING"

I swear these goobers get offended by ANYTHING these days.

It's been a full 8 hours and nothing. I'm surprised I haven't been quoted multiple times with shots about believing corporate media or that my sites are biased fakery or just being called a "leftie" for posting pertinent facts they can't ignore or manipulate.

Anyway, I just glanced an article that says Trump is allegedly making a September announcement for his 2024 candidacy. Holy hell here we go again.

 

[TraderPatTX]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...-of-the-black-lives-matter-protests-where-do/

https://apnews.com/article/american...ota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7

Imagine being so white supremacist you ignore the thousands of arrests made during the BLM riots cuz you're jealous no one in the Jan 6 bullshit is getting off scot free.

Making arrests is one thing. Convictions are another.

 

[SyphenFreht]

Making arrests is one thing. Convictions are another.

https://theprosecutionproject.org/

This site tracks arrest and prosecution data for socio-political violence, both at the Jan 6th insurrection and the George Floyd riots in particular, which tally around 950~ and 1600~ respectively. Now, I've previewed the data and it seems there's an overwhelmingly high rate of conviction, but you would have to do the extra legwork if you want a more scrutinized comparison.

Next?

 

[TraderPatTX]

https://theprosecutionproject.org/

This site tracks arrest and prosecution data for socio-political violence, both at the Jan 6th insurrection and the George Floyd riots in particular, which tally around 950~ and 1600~ respectively. Now, I've previewed the data and it seems there's an overwhelmingly high rate of conviction, but you would have to do the extra legwork if you want a more scrutinized comparison.

Next?

It would be interesting to compare how many BLM rioters spent over a year in prison with no trial only to plead guilty to simple trespassing.

 

[SyphenFreht]

It would be interesting to compare how many BLM rioters spent over a year in prison with no trial only to plead guilty to simple trespassing.

Compare it to what?

Careful how you answer; you're getting dangerously close to implying that you empathize with BLM rioters.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Compare it to what?

Careful how you answer; you're getting dangerously close to implying that you empathize with BLM rioters.

What group of people have been in jail for over a year with no trial now? The ones who finally have received a trial mostly plead guilty to simple trespassing. Can you figure this out from the context clues given or do I have to spell it out for you?

 

[Lacius]

mostly plead guilty to simple trespassing

Conservatives really do live in a different universe.
https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/

 

[SyphenFreht]

Conservatives really do live in a different universe.
https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/

I'm pretty convinced by this point that conservatives are a political cult. There's no amount of facts or statistics or common sense or even basic reasoning that will un-brainwash these people.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

I'm pretty convinced by this point that conservatives are a political cult. There's no amount of facts or statistics or common sense or even basic reasoning that will un-brainwash these people.

there isn't any way to convince them. Unless something personal happens to them that makes them seriously reconsider, there is nothing. Only they can choose to walk out. It is a cult. Talking from personal experience.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Conservatives really do live in a different universe.
https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/

Not sure what you are trying to prove, but one thing I noticed is that not a single person has been convicted of treason, sedition or insurrection. There is also only one person with gun charges. Imagine trying to take over the government and only one person brought any firearms. However, I did notice this excerpt in the second paragraph.

An additional 57 rioters have been sentenced to periods of home detention, while most sentences have included fines, community service and probation for low-level offenses like illegally parading or demonstrating in the Capitol, which is a misdemeanor.

In the end, the narrative of J6 is falling apart. Nobody really cares about it as an issue and people are noticing that they are being treated differently than the BLM rioters that caused billions in damage, mostly in black neighborhoods, and dozens murdered. On J6, only two people were killed and they were killed by Capitol Police. One shot and one beaten to death. Both were women.