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Roe V Wade has been repealed
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Nothing I said was untrue. If you take issue with anything specific I said, please tell me what it is and how I'm wrong.
ive told you this before and you admitted to it, and are now lying again. The vaccine does not reduce transmission
With old variants, the vaccine reduced the risk of being infected, and even if one suffered a breakthrough infection, it reduced one's viral load and the risk of transmitting the infection to others.
With modern variants, the vaccine reduces the risk of being infected, but those who suffer breakthrough infections have about the same viral load as someone who is unvaccinated and infected, meaning they will transmit the virus just as much. However, since they're less likely to contract the virus in the first place, the vaccine remains one of the ways to minimize the spread of disease. The risk of contracting the virus is minimized even more if one has natural immunity and gets vaccinated (or in the opposite order).
I haven't said anything untrue, and I've been consistent in what I've said. No lies here. Try again. Actually, I take it back. I'd rather talk about Roe in the Roe thread. I still haven't heard anyone explain how they can support taking a woman's right to bodily autonomy without also supporting taking away other people's right to bodily autonomy.
but literally the first 2 paragraphs are totally factually untrue.
i'd be happy to support it when my body autonomy is protected against untested therapeutics
They aren't. I'm sorry the facts are inconvenient to your position. That seems to be how it goes for right-wingers (climate change, LGBTQ youth suicide statistics, abortion stats, gun control stats, medical science and vaccines, evolution, age of the Earth, pretty much all science, etc.).
Your bodily autonomy is protected. Don't want to get vaccinated? Don't get vaccinated. It's stupid, selfish, and shameful if you don't, and it was particularly reckless a year ago when so many people lacked immunity, but that's your decision.
Why does John settle for less? He could be getting tested and wearing PPE, staying home more etc. Majority of spread is caused by the vaccinated so John has a lot to answer for, putting public health at risk when he could be minimising the risk.
OH wait , I know why! Because John has already "done his bit". He already did his bit for medical conscription, so it doesn't matter if he puts people at risk, because he has already signaled his virtue and committed himself to society and state. Because of this, John gets to oppress the vaccine-free because he is righteous.
What is your reasoning against:
* donating blood
* registering as an organ donor
* getting vaccinated against other viruses
* donating to starving children
* not consuming junk food & alcohol
* only driving cars with airbags
* not riding motorcycles
* wearing helmet when cycling
* wearing sunscreen and hat
* eating a vegan diet (50% lower risk of high blood pressure; 66% lower risk of type-2 diabetes, 15% lower risk of cancer, significantly lower cholesterol levels, avoid cruelty to animals)
Please provide proof of that. I'm looking at CDC data which indicates this is not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
Links to studies are included on the actual page. So, you were either mistaken or lying.
Neither: CDC is lying by omission and you're falling hook line and sinker for it.
The page you've linked is their typical public-facing "do the right thing and don't worry about the details" propaganda designed to influence how the public behaves.
When we actually look into the details we find things like...
I beg your pardon, I was speaking broadly while using your quote as a starting point. I don't actually care how you get your kicks, I just know that you seem to have zero empathy for women.
As for the vaccination...
It was tested, then utilized on hundreds of millions of people, where its impact could be measured. It helps, but it was never presented as any sort of magical bullet to handle a very new virus. Once again, you're showing off your own ignorance while throwing slander at folk, please stop.
Neither: CDC is lying by omission and you're falling hook line and sinker for it.
The page you've linked is their typical public-facing "do the right thing and don't worry about the details" propaganda designed to influence how the public behaves.
When we actually look into the details we find things like...
And then we have things like this, which focuses on how unsafe it is to go around unvaccinated (thanks for making that point for everyone to see, by the by~) and yet because the chart shows that natural antibodies are effective, you're dismissing the issue with not taking the vaccine.
1. It is almost as effective by itself, and it supplements natural antibodies after having caught it to boot. Since the side effects are so low, there is no reason not to get it even if you've had covid before, as it further reduces your chance to spread it to others or catch it yourself again, which leads into...
2. YOU WENT AROUND UNVACCINATED BEFOREHAND LIKE A BUNCH OF OTHER FOOLS WHO THEN HAD TO ENDURE IT AND BE A VECTOR FOR IT TO CONTINUE TO MUTATE AND CIRCULATE! You've proven yourself to be the threat you talked about earlier, congratulations. The longer it stays in circulation, the more dangerous and elusive variants can become, and the worse your point gets.
The vaccine is a no brainer looking at that chart, and the boosters are designed to be more efficient and counter more variants, something your natural antibodies will be less effective at doing the more the virus changes. You aren't an expert adding some kind of new startling information to the discourse here, you're just peddling nonsense convenient to your world view much like you were regarding abortions until I guess you got a bad case of "dead ass wrong syndrome", a common ailment for the conservative community.
actually it was presented as just that, it was presented as an opportunity to get rid of covid right? thats why they created the buzz word "anti vaxxer" because you were the only ones keeping it around, now thats absolutely untrue but people still believe it.
gonna need clarification on all of the second part, and the first part, really the whole thing, as it seems that you seem uninformed in, probably all of those things.
regarding autonomy, ok easy, worried about an abortion? don't have sex.
- Generally speaking, sex is a biological drive comparable to the biological drives for food or water. My experience has been that people who say "just don't have sex" generally don't have sex themselves (often involuntarily).
- Whether or not someone has sex, responsibly or irresponsibly, is irrelevant to whether or not they should have a right to bodily autonomy (they should).
- Hypothetically, if a state made it so men who had sex had to be added to a registry to donate their kidneys if the need arose, you'd apparently be on board. Don't like it? "Don't have sex" is what you'd say.
It's more likely to snow in the Sahara, which can happen.
The chart is designed to make it appear that people who get vaccinated are more likely to be admitted to the hospital. You can't see or admit that? The vaccine is a "no brainer" (lol) to you, and you looked at a chart.
Afaik the boosters aren't designed to counter variants. They are being sold to boost the ever decreasing efficaciousness. You will never have the same strength of immunity that you had when you got the initial shot, unless it is supplemented with antibodies from actually contracting it. The boosters were not "designed to counter variants". That's false marketing. If there is a new "booster" that has its MRNA sequence updated from variants, then it could be true.
Acquired immunization is more effective in dealing with COVID and variants than the artificial methods you are talking about. The problem is that one has to have had COVID to acquire it.
well i am in fact an incel, so tehy can do whatever they want, doesnt matter to me either way, the question is would YOU be on board?
Then go to a state where abortion is allowed. Simple. The thought experiment you presented falls apart almost immediately.
If someone kills and mutilates a corpse in cold blood, or just kills, then they gave up their right to be called human anymore, so no.
You don't support the "defense of women's bodily autonomy", you support the killing of life.
The constitution states man has the natural rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness, and that includes those who will be born. It says life, the baby in almost all situations has the right to life.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/08/missouri-abortion-ban-texas-supreme-court/
And this falls apart when you make getting an abortion out of state illegal, seems that your thought expirment didn't go very far
Dude, it was your thought experiment first, not mine, I just responded to it. And oh no, now you can't abort your baby, it's the end of the world, it's not like you can give it up for adoption so it can be happy then you can continue to lead your own selfish and miserable existence or anything. Or use protection. Or not fuck. Or not use the billion of other lame excuses to never take responsibilities for your own actions. My body, my choice as long as it means I don't have to take any responsibility in life. Enough with the excuses. Man the fuck up and take responsibility for your own choices. I don't know what and how else to tell you this.
Dude your moving the goddamn goal post, because I just disproved how your claim doesn't work. No that is not an acceptable choice because you are still violating womens right to a choice. And now your enforcing a draconian state, to prosecute someone OUTSIDE of that state. you are removing choice.
How many more mental gymnastics are you going to play.
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Psionic Roshambo:
I didn't know they made an MSU cart for the Genesis.... I knew about the SNES one and the library for that is rather large but the Genesis one has very few games+1
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An FPGA could probably replicate the chip's functionality without buying donor parts.+1
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Psionic Roshambo:
Like not emulating the entire SNES but just a loader and the enhancement chips perhaps even slightly overclocked like FX-2
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