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[Deleted member 586536]

I love how any suggestion to improve things in the USA is automatically painted as communism by mercury drinking inbreeds. Sorry, Republicans. I meant to type Republicans.

Medicare for all? no that's communism
Stopping lobbying and gerymandering communism
Helping the student loan debt crisis muh communism
Helping the ultra rich? yeaaaa! not communism

 

[mituzora]

Medicare for all? no that's communism
Stopping lobbying and gerymandering communism
Helping the student loan debt crisis muh communism
Helping the ultra rich? yeaaaa! not communism

firefighters? socialist
Police Force? socialist
Medical Services? socialist
Public Roads? socialist

So many things that follow communistc/socialistic rules in this country, yet everyone says it's the root of all evils.

I know Communism is bad, let me be clear, but we practice socialist programs all the time and don't bat an eyelid.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

My question is would you complain if the cabinet, senate, house, etc was so was so left heavy you all got your way? Or would that be acceptable in your eyes and you're only angry because it's not YOUR will that's being forced?

Let me ask you a question, would you be angry of the majority of people said you were wrong?
Because how I would respond is No, I wouldn't be.
Republicans are a minority party, ruling the majority. If "the left" was unpopular with the majority, and they made a minority ruling over the majority. I would be mad, it is not democratic. What the republican party did, flies in the face of the word "democracy" Since they did exactly that. enforcing minority rule over a majority.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

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[Elodain]

Let me ask you a question, would you be angry of the majority of people said you were wrong?
Because that's how I'd respond. Republicans are a minority party, ruling the majority. If "the left" was unpopular with the majority, and they made a minority ruling over a majority. I would be mad, it is not democratic. What the republican party did, flies in the face of the word "democracy"

You deflected my question. But okay, I'll play ball.

No, I would not be angry. I may disagree and be willing to debate/argue for a while. But I wouldn't lose sleep over it. You're opinion is your opinion. Unlike the left I am willing to agree to disagree after I've had my fill of argumentative time wasting without taking to TikTok to try and cancel people and discredit them as people.

You say the Republicans are a minority ruling a majority. Yet a majority voted Democrat and put the man you WANTED to be your savior into office. The only power the Reds currently have is the power that was given to them when the Reds were in control of the oval office during the Trump era.

If the majority wants to remove this minority from power all the have to do is vote the minority out come voting season, just like they did with Trump, kicking him out in favor of Biden. Unless you want to insinuate that the elections are/will be rigged, which is funny because the Reds did/are doing the same thing right now so you'd really just be pulling an old "Pot calling the Kettle Black" move, and that gets us nowhere.

Now please, don't dodge my question anymore. Will it be acceptable if the Blue put their friends in office and force their desires upon our country JUST because you agree with them? Or will that be equally unacceptable?

 

[Deleted member 586536]

If the majority wants to remove this minority from power all the have to do is vote the minority out come voting season, just like they did with Trump, kicking him out in favor of Biden.

Except we already discussed this, Gerrymandering, which heavily is in favor of republicans, both parties do it, but republicans rely on it more heavily

You deflected my question. But okay, I'll play ball.

I didn't, maybe it wasn't clear, but my position is basically "democracy"

if left leaning people were all in office, and everyone actually voted for it. Fine by me. If they weren't, and say, used a fuck ton of gerrymandering to get their seats and unfairly represent people. Then no, I wouldn't be okay with it.

 

[Elodain]

both parties do it,

Exactly. That's politics. Funny that you say republicans to it more, they're saying the same thing about Democrats. That's the problem. It's all a bunch of baseless finger pointing typically done out of spite. The reality is everyone that does politics as a career is corrupt, regardless of their side. Nobody wans to belive their side would stoop that low, but they all do because they have the power to do so when placed in office, and of course they're going to take the path of least resistance to take control of everything. "Why leave it to the unpredicable masses when we can just ignore what they want in favor of doing as we please?" I would imagine is the rationale.

Then no, I wouldn't be okay with it.

Fair enough. I can respect that.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Exactly. That's politics. Funny that you say republicans to it more, they're saying the same thing about Democrats.

Except it's very obvious that Republicans rely on it more, because they haven't won the popular vote in 20 years. But have won three times in the electoral collage. So it's not funny

 

[Elodain]

But have won three times in the electoral collage

Nothing stopped them from making it four. They clearly didn't do it this time around, so CLEARLY they don;t always side with the reds. And what happens when all those people die? You think the Democrats WONT try to put their friends in place? and if they do, you think said people WONT do the exact same thing three or four times before they die?

I wish I was as confident in the political system as you were...

 

[SonicFrisbee]

A fetus is not a person, but even if it were, that doesn't mean a woman's right to bodily autonomy should be violated. You wouldn't want the state to be able to force you to give me one of your kidneys, even if I would die without it.

A fetus is a developing person. Because it's alive and developing, it's life should be considered separate from a woman's body autonomy in the conscious sense although the fetus is inside the womb, after all it acts on its own the mother doesn't make it act so it's alive and developing.

Which basically means the fetus is alive, is a developing person and, as result, should not be killed.

I don't see the point with your scenario, no I wouldn't want the state to force me to give you a kidney but the government hasn't forced women to become pregnant.

 

[mituzora]

A fetus is a developing person. Because it's alive and developing, it's life should be considered separate from a woman's body autonomy in the conscious sense although the fetus is inside the womb, after all it acts on its own the mother doesn't make it act so it's alive and developing.

Which basically means the fetus is alive, is a developing person and, as result, should not be killed.

Okay, so live with a tapeworm then. it's living and developing. it should be considered separate of your own body autonomy because it's alive and has rights. Let it eat you dry because your body can't handle it in this case, and inevitably kill you because it's literally destroying your body.

 

[SonicFrisbee]

Okay, so live with a tapeworm then. it's living and developing. it should be considered separate of your own body autonomy because it's alive and has rights. Let it eat you dry because your body can't handle it in this case, and inevitably kill you because it's literally destroying your body.

Has there ever been a law to protect tapeworms? I said fetuses should be protected. I don't think tapeworms should be protected.

 

[wartutor]

I mean I get what you're saying but snipping off a boy's foreskin is hardly the same as ending a child to be's existence.

I would have liked to keep mine until I was old enough to chose for myself, but I personally am not losing any sleep over the fact that my father chose to have it done when I was a baby.

Quit gender defining that child that got snipped. Apparently a penis does not mean male.... fuckin science got that wrong.

 

[Jayro]

That sounds pretty insurrection-y to me just because you don't agree with their decision.

Well it sounds like you forgot that they work for US, the people, not the other way around. So when they fuck up like this, it's a major problem.

 

[Jayro]

Has there ever been a law to protect tapeworms? I said fetuses should be protected. I don't think tapeworms should be protected.

They're both parasites until you expel them.

 

[MariArch]

I like when my states can make there own laws and a bunch robed oligarchs don't decide what we can and cannot make policy on.

 

[mituzora]

They're both parasites until you expel them.

Thank you for clarifying my point!

 

[Costello]

@Elodain @BitMasterPlus @Dark_Ansem @mrdude
in no particular order

I have removed a bunch of posts in this thread and I would appreciate if you could keep it civil. I havent handed off warnings yet but I encourage you to read the rules.

You are entitled to your opinion, left or right. But as per our rules I am asking you to refrain from insulting each other. Let's keep it civil people.

 

[regnad]

It is, but contraception is not 100% effective, and the same people who are against abortion have also reduced access to contraception and safe sex education.

Many of the states that have automatic abortion bans have no exception for rape or incest. Just FYI.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Because I live in the first-world I already speak with a mental health expert to help manage depression and anxiety. I'm pleased to say that I can guarantee I'm not a paranoid schizophrenic. Your posts here, on the other hand, are treading a fine line between "hateful cunt" and "crazy homeless person" and it's genuinely difficult to tell which of those you are.

Therapists can lie, you know, and I'm pretty sure they and you are far from realizng what real mental illness looks like if you haven't actually seen it by now with the people on this site for example.

No, calling someone stupid and leaving it be? that's just a insult. Calling you homophobic after

this? And clearly explaining why

Here if you don't believe me, le'ts look up the term homophobic
"having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against gay people."
You got upset because a gay couple showed up on screen, and instead of saying you don't like it, you rather slander them and also our representation, than admit the truth that you just don't like gay people.
"and it's grooming because the actual percentage of gays worldwide is still less than 1%,"
this is NEVER a valid argument. If I threw anything in there, left handed people, Jews/Muslims, any minority, into that sentence. It would be called antisemitic/Islamophobia. There is no excuse for this.

Ok groomer.

Well it sounds like you forgot that they work for US, the people, not the other way around. So when they fuck up like this, it's a major problem.

And the majority of people do support this. Yeah, there are some who don't, but the majority, the actual majority, not the psycho's about to riot now, support this, so yes, this is working for the people.