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U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

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did you really just add on to think I wouldn't notice? Man, we live in a society where people try to go behind your back, but I will reply to this.
It's called not double posting, you really are a piece of work.

While it's true that you cannot prove they had unprotected sex, you still shouldn't snuff out a human life just because it's inconvenient for you.
Well I don't consider a fetus a "human life". But if you do & you said earlier that you supported abortion for rape. Then your argument is seriously fucked up.

How would you even deal with that? Only allow an abortion after a successful prosecution for rape?
 
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It's called not double posting, you really are a piece of work.
Never called it that, and the fact you're willing to lie about something as small as that shows that you are a pathological liar and cannot be trusted. I said you edited your post to try and get behind me, make me look stupid.

Well I don't consider a fetus a "human life". But if you do & you said earlier that you supported abortion for rape. Then your argument is seriously fucked up.

How would you even deal with that? Only allow an abortion after a successful prosecution for rape?
If there was a court case going on for it, then yeah. No point in waiting for a successful trial, actually getting the grand jury to have a doubt enough to indict the person into a actual trial is enough.

Also how is it fucked up? Do you support rape itself? Do you support having women give birth to rape babies? If not, then my argument isn't fucked up, it's just the pathological liar side coming out.
 

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or if someone is raped, they should 100% be able to get an abortion,
If you haven't seen a fatal flaw in that argument, then you probably hate men too..

If a woman, can only get an abortion if she goes to the police and says she was raped and she can't cope & wants an abortion. How many men do you think will end up in court having to prove they didn't rape them (which is basically impossible).
 
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Never called it that, and the fact you're willing to lie about something as small as that shows that you are a pathological liar and cannot be trusted. I said you edited your post to try and get behind me, make me look stupid.
I added to my post because I had something else I wanted to say. I've been criticized for writing multiple posts in the past and to go back to edit my current post.

You look stupid by your own actions and now you're looking paranoid or disingenuous .
 
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For >99% of human sex on this planet, sex that does not lead to pregnancy was sex done correctly. In other words, for the vast majority of sex, pregnancy is not the goal.

Sex is not consent to pregnancy, regardless of the risks and regardless of any other circumstance for that matter

The biological function of sex is reproduction. Having sex is consent to the "risks" involved.

I asked you a question that addresses your objections. If you're having a conversation about abortion in good faith (lol), you'll answer it. I could have addressed your objections one by one, but this should clear things up much more efficiently.

Your question didn't factor in how the parents are creating the conditions for their children's ailments. It is intentionally blurring causality. If you want to ask me if one thinks a parent should be required to feed and shelter their children, well I doubt anyone would contest that.
 

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You look stupid by your own actions and now you're looking paranoid or disingenuous .
Nah man, I know I don't look stupid, now you're just trying to gaslight me, editing your posts and then calling me paranoid, trying to make me second guess myself.

I added to my post because I had something else I wanted to say. I've been criticized for writing multiple posts in the past and to go back to edit my current post.
That makes sense, but that doesn't explain why you called me stupid or paranoid. Now I'm beginning to think this is all a ruse to make me look really stupid.
 

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That makes sense, but that doesn't explain why you called me stupid or paranoid. Now I'm beginning to think this is all a ruse to make me look really stupid.
Paranoid because you think I edited my post to make you look stupid.

Stupid because you said I was trying to make you look stupid, when I don't have to.

You bought up looking stupid.
 

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I agree. But why can't you answer the question? Your response is everything but.
The question is ridiculous, so I did answer a more realistic form of it. No, an eye for an eye is not "progressive" in any sense of the word, that's some old testament shit which is something pretty much only conservatives and boomers believe in. I would naturally defend my life and/or my family to the death if it truly came to that, but that's a very different subject.
 

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Now we've resorted to name calling, when will the left learn this never works to discourage people from speaking out?
You resorted to name calling. You only think it's the left that needs to learn this, because you always argue with people on the left and insult them, then do this whole victim act.

If you want to speak out, rather than troll for page after page then please go ahead.
 

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You resorted to name calling. You only think it's the left that needs to learn this, because you always argue with people on the left and insult them, then do this whole victim act.

If you want to speak out, rather than troll for page after page then please go ahead.
again, just because I call out stuff doesn't mean i'm trolling. I do genuinely believe the stuff I say. Just because you cannot handle this doesn't mean I'm a troll.
 

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The question is ridiculous, so I did answer a more realistic form of it. No, an eye for an eye is not "progressive" in any sense of the word, that's some old testament shit which is something pretty much only conservatives and boomers believe in.

It's progressive because it allows us to escalate our points of interest.

So... You don't think it's just to get a kidney to replace a kidney that was taken from you because it's "old testament".

But you'd be okay with dying ,due to lack of a transplant, as long as your estate (family) can sue?
 

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and it's pretty goddamn fucking stupid of someone to presume you hate women because you hate seeing babies die, and are willing to compromise on cases of rape or death.
You aren't seeing babies die, fetus aren't babies.

If you want to put your point across then you should say you hate fetus die.

Compromise on cases of rape or death? Well then expect an increase in wrongful rape allegations and suicides.
 

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Your issue appears to boil down to "but the risks associated with pregnancy are lower than the risks associated with kidney donation."
No, it doesn’t. The risk associated with pregnancy is potential - it’s a possibility, not a definite outcome. The outcome of stealing a kidney is definite and inevitable - you set out to take an organ away, and you do just that. The kidney donation scenario directly violates bodily integrity by *opening someone’s body up and removing an organ*. It doesn’t matter if you’re planning to give it back or not - you shouldn’t have taken it in the first place, the damage is done. By comparison, not assisting someone in the pursuit of abortion violates nothing - pregnancy isn’t an illness, but rather a natural state of being for a woman’s body to be in. Nobody is obligated to intervene in it upon request. The only thing that’s absurd in this exchange so far is that you’ve somehow managed to equate action with inaction, potential harm with definite harm, sickness with health etc. and see absolutely nothing wrong with any of it. I’m not even advocating for any of this and I can see how nonsensical your position is - your analogy is bad. It was bad when you presented it in the past, and it’s bad this time around.
 

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again, just because I call out stuff doesn't mean i'm trolling. I do genuinely believe the stuff I say. Just because you cannot handle this doesn't mean I'm a troll.
You're not calling out stuff, you're making your point in a provocative way for the purposes of trolling.

If you could stop yourself from doing that, then I wouldn't call you a troll.
 

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You aren't seeing babies die, fetus aren't babies.

If you want to put your point across then you should say you hate fetus die.

Compromise on cases of rape or death? Well then expect an increase in wrongful rape allegations and suicides.
So they're going to kill themselves to get an abortion? That sounds stupid.
 

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You're not calling out stuff, you're making your point in a provocative way for the purposes of trolling.

If you could stop yourself from doing that, then I wouldn't call you a troll.
I am not trolling, just because you cannot handle the fact that someone has a different opinion doesn't mean they're trolling.
 

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No, it doesn’t. The risk associated with pregnancy is potential - it’s a possibility, not a definite outcome. The outcome of stealing a kidney is definite and inevitable - you set out to take an organ away, and you do just that..
But you can live with only one kidney.
 

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