U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

[Ericzander]

For what might be the first time in American history, a SCOTUS opinion leaked and it... Well... Let's just say it's kind of a big deal.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/le...-majority-set-overturn-roe-v-wade-2022-05-03/

And now, armchair lawyers, go forth and use this thread to spout off recycled talking points.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Life is sacred in or out of the womb. Killing the unborn is wrong. Take responsibility for your actions.

 

[Deleted member 301661]

Life is sacred in or out of the womb. Killing the unborn is wrong. Take responsibility for your actions.

what about rape? what about when the semen donor gone missing? what about children? what about those not capable of understanding the consequences? what about those forced?

 

[Dark_Phoras]

This is a decision based on dogma, not reason. In the first ten weeks of pregnancy, there isn't a baby, it's just a bundle of tissues and the phase of preparation of the woman's body to accomodate the process. The brain synapses only start after 17 weeks, towards the end of the fourth month. I don't see a reason why abortion shouldn't be permitted in the first 10/15 weeks, in a pro-life perspective.

 

[FAST6191]

I shall have to wait and see what the full opinions and results are but interesting twist.

Would not have expected the debate had enough juice to get that far (nowhere else in the world particularly considers it one, and most are usually waiting for the handful of religious folk to die off to get rid of antiquated laws). Thus usually saw it as more of a distraction level political football.

Wonder if/when the next reversal might come, and what might go for state level actors and the resulting stats there (abortions and life outcome stats and crime are a fun intersection). Abortion tourism could also be an interesting one, and even more so if chemical methods get better than they are (and they are far better than most realise).

 

[Deleted member 559230]

what about rape? what about when the semen donor gone missing? what about children? what about those not capable of understanding the consequences? what about those forced?

All life is sacred. There's no excuse for terminating a pregnancy that would acquit the women of murdering an unborn child.

Also, do you know how much of those things you listed happen percentage wise compared to people who just want to have sex and get pregnant?

I also see the liberals claiming that conservatives don't care about the child after its born. That's false. They care, its just not their responsibility to raise the child for the loser parents that refuse to do so. It's the parents job to care for the kid, not random strangers.

Most unwanted pregnancies could be avoided if you take birth control pills, have an operation, wear protection, avoid sex, etc ... It's just you have to be a responsible adult because the majority of pregnancies that happen are just people who refuse to take responsibility and are careless in their actions.

 

[VashTS]

All life is sacred. There's no excuse for terminating a pregnancy that would acquit the women of murdering an unborn child.

Also, do you know how much of those things you listed happen percentage wise compared to people who just want to have sex and get pregnant?

I also see the liberals claiming that conservatives don't care about the child after its born. That's false. They care, its just not their responsibility to raise the child for the loser parents that refuse to do so. It's the parents job to care for the kid, not random strangers.

Most unwanted pregnancies could be avoided if you take birth control pills, have an operation, wear protection, avoid sex, etc ... It's just you have to be a responsible adult because the majority of pregnancies that happen are just people who refuse to take responsibility and are careless in their actions.

so what do you eat?

 

[Deleted member 301661]

All life is sacred. There's no excuse for terminating a pregnancy that would acquit the women of murdering an unborn child.

Also, do you know how much of those things you listed happen percentage wise compared to people who just want to have sex and get pregnant?

I also see the liberals claiming that conservatives don't care about the child after its born. That's false. They care, its just not their responsibility to raise the child for the loser parents that refuse to do so. It's the parents job to care for the kid, not random strangers.

Most unwanted pregnancies could be avoided if you take birth control pills, have an operation, wear protection, avoid sex, etc ... It's just you have to be a responsible adult because the majority of pregnancies that happen are just people who refuse to take responsibility and are careless in their actions.

show me the numbers and the prove of accuracy of those numbers? give me proof of even ever talking to an actual women? have you ever considered your religion might be a ly? have you ever seen what your sacret creator does think of the secracy of life? have you got an actual life to defend as sacret? what did you do that i should call this life of yours so sacret? it angres me to see the short sight of such a defence.
freedom of speech i bet you use it dayly but you don't know why it's important. freedom of religion you abuse it dayly but again you don't understand why it's important. freedom of to move? freedom of expression? freedom at all? you ever for a minute thought about more than yourself?

 

[Deleted member 559230]

so what do you eat?

We're speaking about developing human life, not farm animals. I assumed people would realize I'm talking about human life as that's the topic.

show me the numbers and the prove of accuracy of those numbers? give me proof of even ever talking to an actual women? have you ever considered your religion might be a ly? have you ever seen what your sacret creator does think of the secracy of life? have you got an actual life to defend as sacret? what did you do that i should call this life of yours so sacret? it angres me to see the short sight of such a defence.
freedom of speech i bet you use it dayly but you don't know why it's important. freedom of religion you abuse it dayly but again you don't understand why it's important. freedom of to move? freedom of expression? freedom at all? you ever for a minute thought about more than yourself?

https://www.hli.org/resources/statistics-on-abortion/
https://www.hli.org/resources/why-women-abort/
https://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
https://www.guttmacher.org/journals...ons-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives
https://healthresearchfunding.org/18-shocking-abortion-statistics-rape-victims/

 

[Cortador]

All life is sacred. There's no excuse for terminating a pregnancy that would acquit the women of murdering an unborn child.

Also, do you know how much of those things you listed happen percentage wise compared to people who just want to have sex and get pregnant?

I also see the liberals claiming that conservatives don't care about the child after its born. That's false. They care, its just not their responsibility to raise the child for the loser parents that refuse to do so. It's the parents job to care for the kid, not random strangers.

Most unwanted pregnancies could be avoided if you take birth control pills, have an operation, wear protection, avoid sex, etc ... It's just you have to be a responsible adult because the majority of pregnancies that happen are just people who refuse to take responsibility and are careless in their actions.

So according to what you are saying, child pregnancy where a child's life is in danger if pregnancy is continued should be allowed to go on right?

 

[The Catboy]

I hate the term “pro-life” because there’s no such thing as “pro-life.” There’s only “pro-forced birth” and “pro-back alley abortions.” Abortions will continue to happen but they will go back into dirty motels and cheap apartments. Abortions still happen in countries where even miscarriages come with a death penalty. The idea of outlawing abortion is just another means of controlling people’s bodies and it’s disgusting. Conservatives are hypocrites that hate freedom.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

So according to what you are saying, child pregnancy where a child's life is in danger if pregnancy is continued should be allowed to go on right?

In that very rare circumstance, yes.

 

[emigre]

This is honestly horrifying.

We all know it's going to disproportionally affect those most struggling but I imagine that's the point. The Republicans really do have more in common with the Taliban then the Democrats.

I guess sales of coat hangers will go up.

EDIT: Just realised Gay marriage is probably next

 

[The Catboy]

This is honestly horrifying.

We all know it's going to disproportionally affect those most struggling but I imagine that's the point. The Republicans really do have more in common with the Taliban then the Democrats.

I guess sales of coat hangers will go up.

EDIT: Just realised Gay marriage is probably next

As will many other rights because Conservatives really do hate freedom no matter what mental gymnastics they go through.

 

[KingVamp]

Of course then they don't want any programs that help actual children.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Of course then they don't want any programs that help actual children.

It's not other peoples jobs to raise other peoples children. You're making excuses for parents who refuse to work to feed and cloth their own children. That's horrible.

 

[The Catboy]

It's not other peoples jobs to raise other peoples children. You're making excuses for parents who refuse to work to feed and cloth their own children. That's horrible.

So force kids into the world and leave them to suffer? So you really don’t care when the kids are born, you only care to force them into the world.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Come on, removing a group of cells without nervous system is not the same as killing a baby. Ok, but it has the potential to become a human, but so does all genetic material you trowed on the toiled last time you watched a Mia Khalifa video.

I'm father of two BTW, I know how feels like to have and love a baby.

 

[pustal]

Boy, for a country that likes to be seen as a bastion of democracy and freedom sure is heading back to the dark ages of the Middle Ages.

Let me assure you, US is becoming a bastion of neither to the eyes of outside democracies. The way I'm seeing here, it'll soon become a religious authocracy.

No offence intended for the fellow Americans here, just a wake up call.

 

[Viri]

I don't really care at all. But, it'll be fun to see how people react.