The situation in Ukraine...

[Coto]

really impressed on This Youtuber's growth... making sure we understand how "polling" really works in Russia by From Russian who left as part of the "brain-Drain" youth.


So yea 80% approval? lol SUURRREEEE

Correct

 

[kenlee168]

This will triggered Putin

 

[djpannda]

lol the Russian Exodus is soo ramped. Uzbekistan are calling them Russian Refugees .
There are more and more HUSH Hush Russian abandoning Russia for 2 reasons
1. to avoid possible WAR (drafted)
2. To avoid the upcoming IRON Curtin.
Man....North Korea is going to start looking like a Vacation..
Their are keeping quiet so that Russian Government does not bad Travel to "friendly nations"

 

[Coto]

Yessir

 

[Foxi4]

Yessir

If their nukes are made from the same cardboard as their tanks, the world has nothing to worry about. So far all Russia has shown the world is how to fuck up an invasion of a tiny country in spite of having absolutely overwhelming advantage. The whole offensive is more akin to a Benny Hill skit than it is to a military operation at this point - nobody expected it to last more than 2-3 days. Much like in the case of North Korea, the world should start wondering if their hold-over hardware from an era gone by even works anymore.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/video-butscha.mp4

This video supposedly shows the Ukrainian army in Bucha after the Russian withdrawal. In the beginning of the video, a soldier asks his superior whether he can shoot people without blue ribbons, which he then confirms.
It is possible - just putting it out there - that the victims shown to the media were accused Russian collaborateurs.

Since the West is lead by emotional women and self-identified males (e.g. quote by Scholz: "Seeing those picture, we can no longer..."), it would not surprise me if Ukraine tried that. After all, the Ukrainian president has compared the war to the holocaust in front of an Israeli audience (bad idea btw!) and claimed the Russians are attempting to kill every Ukrainian... and unlike in China, where leading politicians need to have a background in successful politics, Zelensky has a background in acting, like Trudeau in Canada, the head of the EU commission Leyen in child-bearing (which automatically made her fit to lead the German defence ministry I guess), etc.

 

[Foxi4]

https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/video-butscha.mp4

This video supposedly shows the Ukrainian army in Bucha after the Russian withdrawal. In the beginning of the video, a soldier asks his superior whether he can shoot people without blue ribbons, which he then confirms.
It is possible - just putting it out there - that the victims shown to the media were accused Russian collaborateurs.

Since the West is lead by emotional women and self-identified males (e.g. quote by Scholz: "Seeing those picture, we can no longer..."), it would not surprise me if Ukraine tried that. After all, the Ukrainian president has compared the war to the holocaust in front of an Israeli audience (bad idea btw!) and claimed the Russians are attempting to kill every Ukrainian... and unlike in China, where leading politicians need to have a background in successful politics, Zelensky has a background in acting, like Trudeau in Canada, the head of the EU commission Leyen in child-bearing (which automatically made her fit to lead the German defence ministry I guess), etc.

The events that transpired in Bucha have been captured on satellite footage and drone footage. There’s no ambiguity in regards to what happened there and who’s responsible. Russian soldiers have been caught on camera opening fire on civilians - Putin can lie to his own people, but he can’t lie his way out of videos. The Russian government has been consistently lying in regards to the massacre, claiming it’s a “hoax” despite overwhelming evidence that it is not, going so far as to say that the whole thing was staged and that the dead bodies are crisis actors. They must be very good at method acting, because they’ve been motionless on the ground for weeks. Weird conspiracy theories from .ru sites are not credible. I don’t know why anyone would go out of their way to cover for Putin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/world/europe/bucha-ukraine-bodies.html

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Dead bodies lying on the street for weeks should have signs of decomposition. Google it if you dare. The people I have seen on television looked like they had been dead for days, not weeks.
The video of a Russian soldier opening fire on a civilian is real. I´m sure it is not the only case. Still, Ukraine wants "more action" and could use their own dead bodies (e.g. men who don´t want to fight?) to frame Russia.

 

[Foxi4]

Dead bodies lying on the street for weeks should have signs of decomposition. Google it if you dare. The people I have seen on television looked like they had been dead for days, not weeks.
The video of a Russian soldier opening fire on a civilian is real. I´m sure it is not the only case. Still, Ukraine wants "more action" and could use their own dead bodies (e.g. men who don´t want to fight?) to frame Russia.

I was unaware of your ability to perform a medical examination based on the shaky cam Russian media are propagating. For the record, there were entire mass graves found in the area, so no shortage of decomposing bodies as far as evidence goes. Ukraine doesn’t need to “frame Russia”, they’re a sovereign country that was invaded by a foreign power. They can’t damage Russia’s public image any more if they tried.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

I was unaware of your ability to perform a medical examination based on the shaky cam Russian media are propagating.

Ukrainian. Unless you call them Russians, which is what they are.

For the record, there were entire mass graves found in the area, so no shortage of decomposing bodies as far as evidence goes.

The ones that were not in body bags but lying in the streets.

Ukraine doesn’t need to “frame Russia”, they’re a sovereign country that was invaded by a foreign power. They can’t damage Russia’s public image any more if they tried.

Then why were new sanctions made? Same as with the hospital.

 

[Foxi4]

Ukrainian. Unless you call them Russians, which is what they are.

They’re Ukrainians. This ethic group didn’t pop out of a hat, Russia has no claim on this land or its people.

The ones that were not in body bags but lying in the streets.

You don’t know if those bodies showed signs of decomposition or not because you’re operating on potato cam footage. What you do know is that they were on that street for an extended period of time, and we know that for a fact because we have satellite footage that shows as much. For the record, the temperature in Bucha in March hovered between -6 to 2 degrees Celsius - relevant as far as decomposition goes.

Then why were new sanctions made? Same as with the hospital.

Because it’s a war crime.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

They’re Ukrainians. This ethic group didn’t pop out of a hat, Russia has no claim on this land or its people.

Let me use the mainstream logic of why races don´t exist:
The genetic variation within Russia is greater than between Russia and Ukraine. Therefore they are the same.

You don’t know if those bodies showed signs of decomposition or not because you’re operating on potato cam footage. What you do know is that they were on that street for an extended period of time, and we know that for a fact because we have satellite footage that shows as much. For the record, the temperature in Bucha in March hovered between -6 to 2 degrees Celsius - relevant as far as decomposition goes.
Because it’s a war crime.

Funny how you rely on a few pixels each on satellite photos provided by the NYT while calling camera footage from meters aways potato cam footage.

You didn´t get my last point: If Russia cannot sink any lower in public perception, then what is the point of inventing this story (you asked). I answered it by saying: new measures (which is exactly what happened). Therefore, Ukraine has an incentive to make stories like these up. Not saying it didn´t happen, I am just not convinced.
(Unlike the video where a Russian shoots a civilian who comes out of the car; or how Ukrainians shoot prisoners of war)

 

[Foxi4]

Let me use the mainstream logic of why races don´t exist:
The genetic variation within Russia is greater than between Russia and Ukraine. Therefore they are the same.

What does race have to do with anything? Everyone in that region is Slavic in origin, that doesn’t negate distinct nationalities.

Funny how you rely on a few pixels each on satellite photos provided by the NYT while calling camera footage from meters aways potato cam footage.

Yes, I do, because all I need to know is that those pixels haven’t moved. I don’t need to verify that those people are dead - I know they’re dead because they’ve been on the ground for weeks in adverse weather. If they weren’t dead when they started, they sure are now.

You didn´t get my last point: If Russia cannot sink any lower in public perception, then what is the point of inventing this story (you asked). I answered it by saying: new measures (which is exactly what happened). Therefore, Ukraine has an incentive to make stories like these up. Not saying it didn´t happen, I am just not convinced.
(Unlike the video where a Russian shoots a civilian who comes out of the car; or how Ukrainians shoot prisoners of war)

I got point - your point was just silly. Russia cannot sink lower in public perception. In addition, Ukraine does not set the sanctions leveraged against Russia. It is in Ukraine’s interest to keep the world informed, because Russia sure won’t, but the information about Bucha wasn’t even exclusive to Ukrainian sources - international correspondents corroborated the story. Do they also collide with the Ukrainian government? How far does the rabbit hole go before we agree that your premise is silly?

 

[smf]

If Korea united and joined Nato, China would do the same. There are red lines when it comes to enemies at your gate. The US would do the same to its neighbors. Russian or Chinese missiles in Canada or Mexico pointing at Washington is unacceptable.

That says more about the people who see their neighbors as enemies.

What Russia needs right now IS missiles pointing at it, because otherwise they do this dumb shit.

You didn´t get my last point: If Russia cannot sink any lower in public perception, then what is the point of inventing this story (you asked). I answered it by saying: new measures (which is exactly what happened). Therefore, Ukraine has an incentive to make stories like these up.

I actually think Russia can sink lower, every day that Putin keeps up this thinly veiled invasion it sinks further.

Russia has more of an incentive to make stories up than Ukraine does.

Consequently we can see that Russia does make up stories.

 

[smf]

and claimed the Russians are attempting to kill every Ukrainian...

Only the ones who don't want to be Russian.

 

[Coto]

True. World Leaders belong to World Economic Forum, United Nations, and some members of NATO. And these are preventing Ukraine in one way or another, to defend themselves properly.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

What does race have to do with anything? Everyone in that region is Slavic in origin, that doesn’t negate distinct nationalities.

If there are no races due to this argument (which is btw a mainstream argument perpetuated by the "scientific community"), then there can be no ethnicities either. Aren´t ethnicities based on genetic clusters? Race is just a broader term than ethnicity.

Yes, I do, because all I need to know is that those pixels haven’t moved. I don’t need to verify that those people are dead - I know they’re dead because they’ve been on the ground for weeks in adverse weather. If they weren’t dead when they started, they sure are now.

I couldn´t tell whether they are bodies on those satellite images. Isn´t it odd that the Russians leave and they leave corpses (who had been there for weeks apparently) lying on street for days? The happy mayor didn´t mention them when he made his twitter video. They could have been placed there. I think they are people killed in the war but I cannot tell who killed them and whether they were placed there. The West is suscepitble to imagery. Let´s not forget the Syrian boy. He did die. But he was placed face-down at the coast to elicit sympathy for refugees (even though he and his father were safe in Turkey, the father decided to get dental treatment in Canada and made a dangerous journey).
And you know what? It worked. Just as it worked in Bucha IF the images are manipulated.

I got point - your point was just silly. Russia cannot sink lower in public perception. In addition, Ukraine does not set the sanctions leveraged against Russia. It is in Ukraine’s interest to keep the world informed, because Russia sure won’t, but the information about Bucha wasn’t even exclusive to Ukrainian sources - international correspondents corroborated the story. Do they also collide with the Ukrainian government? How far does the rabbit hole go before we agree that your premise is silly?

The international press arrived after the fact. You think they go into dangerous areas? You have to resort to private journalists for that.

 

[Coto]

Indoctrination of Russian people. Notice how much Ukrainians *still* care about russians being able to decide on their own rather than being lectured by the giant Big State.

 

[tomasxd12]

RUSSIA STOP UKRAINE WAR - president of uk

 

[tomasxd12]

Indoctrination of Russian people. Notice how much Ukrainians *still* care about russians being able to decide on their own rather than being lectured by the giant Big State.

oh. That's bad or good?