Formula 1

[Alexander1970]

Kimi crashed...

 

[AmandaRose]

Nikita Mazepin is out of today's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, after testing positive for Covid. All other drivers have returned negative results.

Hopefully in the race today Max and Lewis take each other out and Lando gets a well deserved win.

 

[AmandaRose]

Total bullshit the FIA just gave Max the world title.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

F1 subscription cancelled

 

[Alexander1970]

Fucking Mercedes,fucking Wolff,fucking Hamilton.


I will close this Thread,maybe someone other maybe can take over 2022.


Formula 1 is over for me.


Congratulations for Max,this was compensatory justice for the entire 2021 Season.




Good Bye.

 

[AmandaRose]

Fucking Mercedes,fucking Wolff,fucking Hamilton.


I will close this Thread,maybe someone other maybe can take over 2022.


Formula 1 is over for me.


Congratulations for Max,this was compensatory justice for the entire 2021 Season.




Good Bye.

He is only won because Michael Masi illegally once again changed the rules on the fly. The rules for the safety car is set in stone and can't be changed so no wonder Mercedes have appealed. FIA really have to act and overturn the race results its that simple.

What is the point of having a rule book if the rules are not followed to the letter by the Race Director the one person who should actually know the rules.

 

[Armadillo]

Don't watch F1, but obviously seeing this blowing up everywhere. Any got a TL: DR summary for someone like me as to wtf is happening.

Thanks.

 

[AncientBoi]

[runs out on the track Naked, since no one is watching F! anymore] Weeeeeeeeeee

 

[AmandaRose]

Don't watch F1, but obviously seeing this blowing up everywhere. Any got a TL: DR summary for someone like me as to wtf is happening.

Thanks.

I will let someone else explain it better but basically one man just killed F1 with one bullshit decision. All I have to say is


“I defy anyone who truly loves motor racing not to feel sick to their stomach watching that last lap unfold,”. “What makes all sports special is that the competitors (whether individuals or teams) compete under the same set of rules – and the best then rise to the top. It’s what makes doping in athletics, cycling and any other out and out physical sport so awful, as it gives some competitors an uneven advantage. Today we saw the worst kind of doping, the rule book torn up to ensure a manufactured finish. By removing the level playing field, rewriting the rules, unlapping some cars and not others, the FIA tried to ensure that F1 had its Hollywood ending to the season. I hope that once the dust settles and the court cases reach their conclusions, today’s result is expunged from the record book.”

 

[SG854]

Something tells me the winds have changed it's course

 

[AmandaRose]

=Don't watch F1, but obviously seeing this blowing up everywhere. Any got a TL: DR summary for someone like me as to wtf is happening.

Thanks.

Let me properly explain it.

With Lewis Hamilton having looked on course to grab his eighth world crown, the race was turned in its head when Williams driver Nicholas Latifi crashed at the exit of the hotel complex on lap 53 of the 58 laps race, triggering a safety car.

The safety car situation resulted in Max Verstappen pitting for soft tyres, while Hamilton stayed out on his well-worn hards.

With a winner-takes-all championship battle underway, it was in Red Bull's interest to get a restart going, and it without the intervention of lapped cars that were on track between Verstappen and Hamilton.

So when Masi the race director issued a notice saying 'Lapped cars will not be allowed to overtake', it appeared that Red Bull's hopes would not be realised as he would be unlikely to clear the lapped cars in time.

However, the situation changed dramatically on the penultimate lap when Masi felt the track was safe enough to let a few backmarkers overtake.

But it was the way this was handled, and the immediate restart, that has upset Mercedes.

Safety Car rules

Mercedes' protest is based on two regulations: Article 48.12 and Article 48.8 of the F1 Sporting Regulations.

Article 48.12 deals with the situation of having backmarkers unlap themselves.

Initially, Masi had been within his rights to state that 'Lapped Cars will not be allowed to overtake' - which meant Verstappen would be trapped behind five backmarkers before he could get a run on Hamilton.

However, on the penultimate lap, on the run down to Turn 9, Masi sent a message saying that five cars – Lando Norris, Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon, Charles Leclerc and Sebastian Vettel could unlap themselves.

The decision to only allow some lapped cars to unlap themselves is unusual as Article 48.12 suggests that the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' should be sent to all competitors.

The regulation is then explicit about when the race can be restarted.

It states: "Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap.

"If the clerk of the course considers track conditions are unsuitable for overtaking the message "OVERTAKING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED" will be sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system "

This clause suggests that with the lapped car message having come out on lap 57, then the restart could only come at the end of the 'following lap'- so lap 58, which was the end of the race.


Article 48.8 relates to there being no overtaking behind the safety car.

During the restart phase, as Hamilton and Verstappen prepared to begin racing again, it appeared from the onboard that the Red Bull had briefly nudged ahead of the Mercedes.

The rule states that "no driver may overtake another car on the track, including the safety car, until he passes the Line (see Article 5.3 – which is the safety car line) for the first time after the safety car has returned to the pits."

Both matters will now be dealt with in the FIA stewards' room on Sunday night, meaning the championship fight ends under a cloud.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

This was the stewards season, the last race was no different.

Never felt so disappointed with a F1 session in my life, and I watched everything since 1996.

My personal highlight for the season is the Belgian GP. That race is a perfect illustration of what kind if bullshit F1 is capable of deliver.

 

[Armadillo]

Let me properly explain it.

With Lewis Hamilton having looked on course to grab his eighth world crown, the race was turned in its head when Williams driver Nicholas Latifi crashed at the exit of the hotel complex on lap 53 of the 58 laps race, triggering a safety car.

The safety car situation resulted in Max Verstappen pitting for soft tyres, while Hamilton stayed out on his well-worn hards.

With a winner-takes-all championship battle underway, it was in Red Bull's interest to get a restart going, and it without the intervention of lapped cars that were on track between Verstappen and Hamilton.

So when Ma'si the race director issued a notice saying 'Lapped cars will not be allowed to overtake', it appeared that Red Bull's hopes would not be realised as he would be unlikely to clear the lapped cars in time.

However, the situation changed dramatically on the penultimate lap when Masi felt the track was safe enough to let a few backmarkers overtake.

But it was the way this was handled, and the immediate restart, that has upset Mercedes.

Safety Car rules

Mercedes' protest is based on two regulations: Article 48.12 and Article 48.8 of the F1 Sporting Regulations.

Article 48.12 deals with the situation of having backmarkers unlap themselves.

Initially, Masi had been within his rights to state that 'Lapped Cars will not be allowed to overtake' - which meant Verstappen would be trapped behind five backmarkers before he could get a run on Hamilton.

However, on the penultimate lap, on the run down to Turn 9, Masi sent a message saying that five cars – Lando Norris, Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon, Charles Leclerc and Sebastian Vettel could unlap themselves.

The decision to only allow some lapped cars to unlap themselves is unusual as Article 48.12 suggests that the message 'LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE' should be sent to all competitors.

The regulation is then explicit about when the race can be restarted.

It states: "Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap.

"If the clerk of the course considers track conditions are unsuitable for overtaking the message "OVERTAKING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED" will be sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system "

This clause suggests that with the lapped car message having come out on lap 57, then the restart could only come at the end of the 'following lap'- so lap 58, which was the end of the race.


Article 48.8 relates to there being no overtaking behind the safety car.

During the restart phase, as Hamilton and Verstappen prepared to begin racing again, it appeared from the onboard that the Red Bull had briefly nudged ahead of the Mercedes.

The rule states that "no driver may overtake another car on the track, including the safety car, until he passes the Line (see Article 5.3 – which is the safety car line) for the first time after the safety car has returned to the pits."

Both matters will now be dealt with in the FIA stewards' room on Sunday night, meaning the championship fight ends under a cloud.

Thanks.

So basically what seems like ignoring rules to get an exciting last lap, rather than plodding around behind a safety car to the end.

Seems a strange way to do things, but can see why it's blowing up.

 

[AmandaRose]

Thanks.

So basically what seems like ignoring rules to get an exciting last lap, rather than plodding around behind a safety car to the end.

Seems a strange way to do things, but can see why it's blowing up.

Yep that's exactly what happened basically F1 went from being a sport to a fake reality TV programme in a matter of seconds.

 

[subcon959]

Surely it will get reversed? There's no way he's allowed to ignore the rules to engineer the outcome of the race.

 

[AsPika2219]

Poor Lewis Hamilton.... Congratulations to Max Verstappen!

 

[zxr750j]

Mercedes should have changed it's tires, Hammilton would have won. He didn't.

 

[AmandaRose]

Well said George well said.

 

[subcon959]

Looks like Lewis has told Mercedes to back off and let things be as he's happy with his knighthood. Max's first championship will always have an asterisk next to it in my opinion. At the very least, they have to do something about Masi as a lot of people will be leaving if he's still around next year.

 

[AmandaRose]

Looks like Lewis has told Mercedes to back off and let things be as he's happy with his knighthood. Max's first championship will always have an asterisk next to it in my opinion. At the very least, they have to do something about Masi as a lot of people will be leaving if he's still around next year.

Masi is rumoured to be getting fired on the 17h of this month when the FIA elect a new president.

Also thankfully team principals have been banned from talking to the race director during a race from next season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...pals-NOT-able-speak-race-director-season.html