Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[urherenow]

The previous administration saw no real increase in the rate of job growth between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit. It should also be noted that the previous administration's mishandling of the pandemic is a large reason why the economy was hit so hard, so give credit where credit is due.

Regarding the Democratic relief bill, about 30% alone went towards cash payments to individuals and unemployment benefits. 25% went to business loans, another 19% went to small business loans specifically, about 17% went to governmental COVID response, and about 9% went to public services like hospitals.

I don't see anything unrelated to pandemic relief. Even if I had been wrong, which I'm not, it would be laughably hyperbolic and absurd to say my "whole life is a lie." In other words, this kind of nonsensical hyperbole usually occurs when someone is overcompensating for being wrong.

Ok, then. You're smarter than all of the "fact checkers" and all of the career politicians who have done this since before you were an itch in your daddy's balls.

 

[Lacius]

Ok, then. You're smarter than all of the "fact checkers" and all of the career politicians who have done this since before you were an itch in your daddy's balls.

I am not saying, nor implying, that I'm smarter than anyone. I'm saying you've got your facts wrong, and if you're someone who gets their information from conservative media, that's probably why. If there's something wrong with what I said, please tell me what the mistake is. However, everything I said in that post, as far as I can tell, is provably correct.

 

[tabzer]

The former administration denied the pandemic was serious, told people to go about their business as usual, denied masks should be worn, peddled dangerous misinformation about the pandemic constantly, and never seriously promoted vaccine use (we didn't find out he even received the vaccine until after he left office). The former administration also barely had a vaccination strategy. It's no wonder the pandemic exploded in the United States, which comes with the economic consequences one would reasonably expect.

I've posted numerous times in the election thread a thorough, but not full, list of how the former administration failed in its response to the pandemic. I refer you to it, since I know you've already seen it.


I'm not sure how anyone can reasonably jump to the conclusion that I'm claiming there was no meaningful job growth under Obama. His administration took us from the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression to a booming economy.

The problem for the former administration is that the rate of job growth stayed where it was after Obama left office. In fact, if you want to get picky, Obama's last three years of job growth (2014-2016, well after the Recession) were all better than the former administration's best year. The only meaningful effect the former administration had on the economy was the economic downturn that was the result of the pandemic and the administration's mishandling of the pandemic.

You are saying that 2008 - 2016 is meaningful and everything after, up until the pandemic wasn't meaningful.

Also, it is a fact that shutdowns are what brought the economy down, and Trump could've been the one to enforce them tyrannically federally, and been responsible for it.

Your words are so full of spin and have no consistency to be considered as a real language.

 

[Lacius]

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You are saying that 2008 - 2016 is meaningful and everything after, up until the pandemic wasn't meaningful.

Also, it is a fact that shutdowns are what brought the economy down, and Trump could've been the one to enforce them tyrannically federally, and been responsible for it.

Your words are so full of spin and have no consistency to be considered as a real language.

You do see that the rate of job growth is largely unchanged from about 2011 to 2020 (pre-pandemic), right?

 

[Darth Meteos]

Ok, then. You're smarter than all of the "fact checkers" and all of the career politicians who have done this since before you were an itch in your daddy's balls.

if i had a buck for every strawman in this thread

You are saying that 2008 - 2016 is meaningful and everything after, up until the pandemic wasn't meaningful.

bro if obama was smooth sailing until a giant crash in 2012, you would not ever shut up about that crash
i was gonna ask you to be consistent, but you're tabzer

Your words are so full of spin and have no consistency to be considered as a real language.

you say that, and yet lacius' point was that taking a shit situation and making it good is more impressive than coasting on an upward trajectory
you're either deliberately ignoring that or you can't read, so take your pick

 

[tabzer]

bro if obama was smooth sailing until a giant crash in 2012, you would not ever shut up about that crash

That's a red herring you can track by yourself.

you say that, and yet lacius' point was that taking a shit situation and making it good is more impressive than coasting on an upward trajectory

Contextually, Lacius's point was to diminish a claim that urherenow made.

The previous administration saw the LOWEST jobless numbers and welfare cases in decades. The only reason those numbers jumped back up is because of COVID. That, and Democrats refused to approve stimulus that ONLY applied to the American people. The latest stimulus package has a whopping grand total of 9% going towards actual COVID relief.

The previous administration saw no real increase in the rate of job growth between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit.

 

[Lacius]

Contextually, Lacius's point was to diminish a claim that urherenow made.

And I succeeded. The previous administration saw no real increase in the rate of job growth between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit, and you provided the proof.

 

[Darth Meteos]

That's a red herring you can track by yourself.

It's an accurate assessment. I have seen nothing but partisanship from you.

Contextually, Lacius's point was to diminish a claim that urherenow made.

The purpose of the point has no relevance to what the point actually was.

 

[tabzer]

And I succeeded. The previous administration saw no real increase in the rate of job growth between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit, and you provided the proof.

You said it wasn't meaningful.

It's an accurate assessment. I have seen nothing but partisanship from you.

It's not an accurate assessment to assume something that hasn't happened.

The purpose of the point has no relevance to what the point actually was.

THESE ARE JUST WORDS BRO

 

[Darth Meteos]

THESE ARE JUST WORDS BRO

ah yes
using my own words against me
of course, you've failed to use them correctly, so i can't give too much credit, but letting me speak for you does by definition raise the intelligence of this post relative to the usual ones
nice of you to admit you can't parse the english language, though, it explains a lot

 

[tabzer]

ah yes
using my own words against me
of course, you've failed to use them correctly, so i can't give too much credit, but letting me speak for you does by definition raise the intelligence of this post relative to the usual ones
nice of you to admit you can't parse the english language, though, it explains a lot

You were just mocking the overuse of strawmen and partisanship. Now you are lecturing about "parsing" the "english language" with that butchered nonsense--while implying that @Darth Meteos is, by definition, "intelligence".

"The purpose of the point was not the point because it doesn't support what I want to focus on. You're stupid."

Funny guy.

 

[urherenow]

I am not saying, nor implying, that I'm smarter than anyone. I'm saying you've got your facts wrong, and if you're someone who gets their information from conservative media, that's probably why. If there's something wrong with what I said, please tell me what the mistake is. However, everything I said in that post, as far as I can tell, is provably correct.

My initial source was debunking the "only 9% to the American people" claim, so your assumption of a conservative source is incorrect. It leans slightly to the left, in fact (https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444 ) . Again, better than 15% of the bill can't even be spun in COVID's direction.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...own-spending-covid-19-relief-bill/6887487002/

Please read it and look at all of the fluff added. The 15% I said is FACT. "the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget" said it themselves.

Here is a conservative take on it, that I doubt you will read. And even if you do read it, you will likely see no problem with the fact that much of this money isn't even being spent this fiscal year, or the next...

https://reason.com/2021/02/18/biden...as-almost-nothing-to-do-with-the-coronavirus/


Hell, the OMNIBUS spending bill, as pretty much always, had shit slipped in that has nothing to do with the budget or spending whatsoever! I'm sure most people here don't care... but take vape mail for example. Many shops who's livelihood depended upon internet sales (and my only way of getting my own supply while serving the country overseas), have had to close their doors. Because that was slipped into the budget and is now law. Mind you, this was a budget that HAD TO BE SIGNED, 'less you lot blame Trump for another government shutdown. The law may not have seen the light of day otherwise. So no matter your feelings on vaping... how the hell can you justify it being put into our BUDGET? This is how Democrats roll.

https://vaping360.com/vape-news/107...-mail-force-online-sellers-into-the-pact-act/

 

[tabzer]

ah yes
using my own words against me
of course, you've failed to use them correctly, so i can't give too much credit, but letting me speak for you does by definition raise the intelligence of this post relative to the usual ones
nice of you to admit you can't parse the english language, though, it explains a lot

@Darth Meteos is, by definition, "intelligence".

So you know, anybody can look at your signature and see the actual context. You might want to get rid of that to hide the fact that you are using that as some sort of powerplay, which undermines the rest of your signature. I know that you are impressed by me and all.

 

[urherenow]

And I succeeded. The previous administration saw no real increase in the rate of job growth between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit, and you provided the proof.

You didn't succeed with shit. I never said anything about the rate. He had the lowest unemployment. Period. Full stop. And yes, it was because of his policies, and incentivizing companies to have more presence in the US. Then COVID hit. And all the Democrats called him a racist xenophobe for trying to restrict flights from China. Oh, wait... What did Biden just to about India again? What did Pelosi do? Oh, that's right... got on the news, went to Chinatown, and told everyone to come on over and have a good time. Sure... all Trump's fault and his handling of the pandemic. https://khn.org/news/article/fact-c...on-vaccine-contracts-and-supply-not-accurate/


"Trump created 6.6 million jobs before the COVID-19 pandemic shut the economy down. The new jobs his policies created represented a 4.3% increase over the 152.2 million people working at the end of Obama's term."

All found here, cupcake, if numbers aren't too hard for you: https://www.bls.gov/data/#employment

Trump has done a lot more than you lot give him credit for. All while the Dems were biting at his ankles like the dogs that they are. THE. ENTIRE. TIME.

 

[tabzer]

You didn't succeed with shit. I never said anything about the rate. He had the lowest unemployment. Period. Full stop. And yes, it was because of his policies, and incentivizing companies to have more presence in the US.

"Trump created 6.6 million jobs before the COVID-19 pandemic shut the economy down. The new jobs his policies created represented a 4.3% increase over the 152.2 million people working at the end of Obama's term."

All found here, cupkake: https://www.bls.gov/data/#employment

He knows. He was just utilizing a strawman, which @Darth Meteos called him out on. It's good to see people like that who can be objective and non-partisan.

 

[Valwinz]

another day in the Biden stupidity

pic.twitter.com/gQTwkuTEAm

— The Right To Bear Memes (@grandoldmemes) May 10, 2021

 

[Seliph]

Just found this image of Joe Biden putting a gun in this woman's mouth because she dared to protest his socialist agenda. Why is no one talking about this????? The president of the united states puts a gun square in a woman's mouth (no trigger discipline btw) and the left would rather argue about pronouns and "racism"? What has this country come to???? This is exactly what those cultural Marxists want to happen to our country, we have a murderer as president while the government tries to keep us divided and distracted with socialist lies. This is the country that liberal communists want!!

 

[KingVamp]

That's how the mafia government works.

 

[Lacius]

You said it wasn't meaningful.



It's not an accurate assessment to assume something that hasn't happened.

I said the rate of job growth did not go up under the former administration, and that is factually correct. The rate of job growth (monthly job gains) remained roughly unchanged between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit.

 

[AmandaRose]

another day in the Biden stupidity
https://twitter.com/grandoldmemes/status/1391636860967993351

So so stupid of Biden for getting rid of Trump's draconian laws that discriminated against people based on sexual orientation or gender identity.

And if you actually study the law that has been rolled back it is all to do with making sure trans people are not discriminated against when it comes to health care it has NOTHING to do with pronouns so your little meme doesn't even make any fucking sense as to what Biden actually did.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1266823