Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[White_Raven_X]

@Frankfort42*Snip* Everything that happened at the capitol was ILLEGAL! Trespassing on restricted land is not at all the same as peaceful protests in the public streets. Also don't you realise that doing what happened to the capitol is directly in contradiction with democracy..... Maybe you don't understand what democracy is... Democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
The riot at the capitol is in direct contradiction of democracy! Don't you get that phrase *Snip*?!

 

[Cryoraptor]

We are a constitutional republic.

Answer the question: Do you fundamentally disagree with democracy or not?

 

[Lacius]

We are a constitutional republic.

1. Yes we are. How is that at all relevant to my post?
2. The United States is both a democracy and a republic. We are a democratic-republic.
3. Democracy is a good thing, and you seem to be arguing against it.

 

[Lumstar]

You avoided the question I put to you. I'll put it here again:

Here's a question: Do you really think it would be fair and democratic for a candidate that lost by 5 million votes to still be declared the winner? Or do you think American politics need reform so the popular vote actually means something?

Please answer it this time.

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Ok, fair enough, we're on the same page.

Appallingly, that is not sarcasm. Trump supporters want to live in a bizarro world where courts, congress, or even the vice president, hold the power to chuck the entire electorate into the wastebasket at their leisure, and unilaterally declare the winning candidate.

 

[Plasmaster09]

1. Yes we are. How is that at all relevant to my post?
2. The United States is both a democracy and a republic. We are a democratic-republic.
3. Democracy is a good thing, and you seem to be arguing against it.

the fact these guys try to flagrantly defile our democracy by calling it "mob rule" just shows that their dictatorial wishful thinking and their sheer stupidity could easily be summed up as "caramel machiavelliato"

 

[Doran754]

*Snip*

Everything they said is partisan and I can't be bothered to refute everything said in this thread because you're all emotional babies. I'll start with the first and call it a day. "Trump is responsible for putting Kim Jong Hun on the world stage" If they can't even spell his damn name correctly why should I take their criticism seriously? But no, Kim being the leader of a country, one that is actively pursuing nuclear weapons and has been in a perpetual state of war with their neighbours for over 50 years PUT HIM ON THE WORLD STAGE. I'm not going through the rest. *Snip!*

 

[Plasmaster09]

Everything they said is partisan and I can't be bothered to refute everything said in this thread because you're all emotional babies. I'll start with the first and call it a day. "Trump is responsible for putting Kim Jong Hun on the world stage" If they can't even spell his damn name correctly why should I take their criticism seriously? But no, Kim being the leader of a country, one that is actively pursuing nuclear weapons and has been in a perpetual state of war with their neighbours for over 50 years PUT HIM ON THE WORLD STAGE. I'm not going through the rest. *Snip*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

 

[Doran754]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

I don't need too read it I'll just take your cliffnotes, you being the expert and all.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I don't need too read it I'll just take your cliffnotes, you being the expert and all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

 

[realtimesave]

I don't think this is a powerful leader bro. He even is undoing the restriction on Moslem countries. lol. let's see what else he meddles with.

 

[Plasmaster09]

*Snip*

I don't think this is a powerful leader bro. He even is undoing the restriction on Moslem countries. lol. let's see what else he meddles with.

gee, maybe it's because a restriction on several countries just because of their national or most common religion is a fundamentally unsound policy as well as a sign of bigotry over reason

 

[Doran754]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

this is like the third time now that some dipshit has called Cryo a liberal and a) acted like that's an insult and b) actually seriously accused the most aggressively centrist guy I've ever seen on the internet of liberal bias in some way

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/

 

[Plasmaster09]

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/

one of the first links I get when I search for that site is some bullshit about how white privilege "isn't a thing" so yeah I'm sure they're totally unbiased and you can definitely trust one small journal with their head up their ass over a large team of admins and a massive editor base bent on preventing misinformation
claiming that even wikipedia is left-biased is a sure sign a site is just far-right wingnuttery

 

[Cryoraptor]

*Snip*

one of the first links I get when I search for that site is some bullshit about how white privilege "isn't a thing" so yeah I'm sure they're totally unbiased and you can definitely trust one small journal with their head up their ass over a large team of admins and a massive editor base bent on preventing misinformation
claiming that even wikipedia is left-biased is a sure sign a site is just far-right wingnuttery

I wouldn't even respond to him anymore. He's quite clearly demonstrated that he's a troll just like the others.

 

[wartutor]

No, no, no. Trump was the one who started an economic war with China and is losing it because he stood firm against China. If you're expecting Biden to come out and publicly condemn those countries, you'd be badly mistaken. No sane leader would do that because it's terrible for diplomacy and the economy.

So basically your saying open up trade again with China and give the American jobs we just took from China back to China. How the fuck is that supost to better our economy. Their is 2 things that wrong with that idea.

1. You are moving jobs over seas and away from American people. A lot of the steel and aluminum industry finally was getting reestablished back into America.

2. Moving industrial jobs over to China is counter productive when you are trying to eliminate pollution and toxic waste due to their "relaxed aka non-existent " pollution regulations. (Another reason it's alot cheaper for company's to produce over seas, especially electronics that tend to produce alot of pollution and waste to produce.

We need stricter import taxes (enough to counter the cheap manufacturing) and have shit moved back to America to produce more jobs and make it possible to regulate pollution and waste. As they say "many nations, one planet." Moving it doesn't solve anything.

 

[g00s3y]

Trump supporters still losing their mind.

Can't understand 2+2=4, how would you expect any of them to understand anything else as basic.

SO MUCH WINNING!

 

[Cryoraptor]

*Snip*

So basically your saying open up trade again with China and give the American jobs we just took from China back to China. How the fuck is that supost to better our economy. Their is 2 things that wrong with that idea.

1. You are moving jobs over seas and away from American people. A lot of the steel and aluminum industry finally was getting reestablished back into America.

2. Moving industrial jobs over to China is counter productive when you are trying to eliminate pollution and toxic waste due to their "relaxed aka non-existent " pollution regulations. (Another reason it's alot cheaper for company's to produce over seas, especially electronics that tend to produce alot of pollution and waste to produce.

We need stricter import taxes (enough to counter the cheap manufacturing) and have shit moved back to America to produce more jobs and make it possible to regulate pollution and waste. As they say "many nations, one planet." Moving it doesn't solve anything.

Nice strawman. I mentioned nothing about moving jobs. Stricter import taxes didn't work for Trump because China just moved production elsewhere.

 

[Joom]

So basically your saying open up trade again with China and give the American jobs we just took from China back to China. How the fuck is that supost to better our economy. Their is 2 things that wrong with that idea.

Except none of the jobs were brought back to the US because they didn't have to be, and China now no longer has to adhere to our copyright laws, so they are now free to reproduce our own products en masse without paying a cent to us. If you don't understand policy, don't talk about policy.

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

You avoided the question I put to you. I'll put it here again:

Here's a question: Do you really think it would be fair and democratic for a candidate that lost by 5 million votes to still be declared the winner? Or do you think American politics need reform so the popular vote actually means something?

Please answer it this time.

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Ok, fair enough, we're on the same page.

Yes. Because the election is decided by the electoral college not by most votes.

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What is the single best piece of evidence that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election?


"Mob rule" is what conservatives yell when they are backed into the corner of arguing against democracy, and it's embarrassing.

Dozens of whistleblowers. Eye witness testimony. Invalid votes cast post deadline not properly postmarked still counted as valid. Investigations showing dead people voting, showing people voting in states they don't live in and voting more than one time. Voting machines "glitching" and flipping votes at rates too high to be computer error, unmarked, unsecured boxes with tens of thousands of votes showing up from unknown couriers at 3am, vote watchers being refused to witness votes being counted.

But other than all this. There's no evidence at all.

 

[Cryoraptor]

Yes. Because the election is decided by the electoral college not by most votes.

Stop dodging the question, silly goober, I'm asking you if you think a candidate losing the popular vote by 5 million votes is a fair system.

Investigations showing dead people voting

Nope, complete bullshit. That was disproven. Do you people bother to read even the Wikipedia article on it before making idiotic, outdated comments, or is Wikipedia a "left wing propaganda site"?

Voting machines "glitching" and flipping votes at rates too high to be computer error

Pure speculation. Nothing of substance has been found to support this.

Stop repeating the same horse shit you've read on your right wing *snip* websites. All of this has been disproven, or rather, none of these claims have been proven.