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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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The same three guys are continually repeating the same lies over and over in the hopes that everyone else will get bored of telling them they're wrong and they'll be the last ones standing
I mean, I come back here like once a week just to spit on the fire, but this is some really dedicated shit, I can't even imagine how much of a degenerate you'd have to be to be on this thread nearly 24/7 for over two months

If you want to win an argument through attrition, I respect your enthusiasm, but that respect is tempered with a soul-crushingly enormous serving of pity.
 

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First, there is a difference between your claim of "meddling" and fake ballots. "Meddling" includes a wide range activities that can be morally gray, innocent, or malicious. And if it is Seth Rich who was the source of the wikipedia leak, then you only have the DNC to blame.

Also, I can say as many times as you, that there is evidence, but you are constantly invested in denying it. You hate Trump that much.
So fucking PROVIDE that evidence then. You're claiming it exists, so SHOW US. That is how this works.
 

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there is evidence
Yes, 1000 or 1000s, depending on the person you ask, testimonies and... Some people on twatter saying so.

There is no good evidence for widescale, coordinated election fraud. There's evidence for isolated events, which is expected in any election, let alone a US election involving well over 100 million people.
 
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It doesn't matter what you think. It's an objective fact that he was the first to yell 'STOP THE COUNT' on twitter, and was also the first to mention anything about mail ballots. As you've previously demonstrated though, you suffer from Creationist Fallacy so your claims are automatically true and what you think is more important than what any evidence says.

If it doesn't matter what I think, then why are you protesting me? If only what Trump says is important, then I suppose ehat people believed before Trump came along didn't matter?

What is this "creationist fallacy"? I don't believe in free and fair elections because the existence of which has never been proven to me. Are you sure that you aren't applying such an absurd notion to me in reverse?
 

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If it doesn't matter what I think, then why are you protesting me? If only what Trump says is important, then I suppose ehat people believed before Trump came along didn't matter?

What is this "creationist fallacy"? I don't believe in free and fair elections because the existence of which has never been proven to me. Are you sure that you aren't applying such an absurd notion to me in reverse?
This entire comment is a strawman. I'm out.

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real easy to knock over a man made of straw
Fuck, you beat me to it.
 

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If it doesn't matter what I think, then why are you protesting me? If only what Trump says is important, then I suppose ehat people believed before Trump came along didn't matter?

What is this "creationist fallacy"? I don't believe in free and fair elections because the existence of which has never been proven to me. Are you sure that you aren't applying such an absurd notion to me in reverse?
first off, our point is that you need to get your head out of your ass and listen to points other than Trump's

second off... dude you don't understand how this works
the election being legitimate is the default stance
you, and all the other lunatics on Trump's side with you, are claiming it is not so
so it is YOUR JOB to prove it to us by actually providing reliable evidence of widespread election fraud

and third off, as stated above, that whole post is a giant bullshit strawman argument
 
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first off, our point is that you need to get your head out of your ass and listen to points other than Trump's

second off... dude you don't understand how this works
the election being legitimate is the default stance
you, and all the other lunatics on Trump's side with you, are claiming it is not so
so it is YOUR JOB to prove it to us by actually providing reliable evidence of widespread election fraud

It's not the default stance. Prior to Trump getting into the games, less than %50 people voted, which probably should be interpreted as that the majority would prefer anarchy to scammy political puppet shows.
 

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It's not the default stance. Prior to Trump getting into the games, less than %50 people voted, which probably should be interpreted as that the majority would prefer anarchy to scammy political puppet shows.
mate, proving election fraud is as easy as 1, 2, 3!

  1. Show me the election fraud
 

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It's not the default stance. Prior to Trump getting into the games, less than %50 people voted, which probably should be interpreted as that the majority would prefer anarchy to scammy political puppet shows.
That's... not what that means at all.
If you mean that less than 50% of the population voted, of course! It's not like every single person in the nation is a registered voter, especially considering the fact that there do exist people too young to vote.
If you mean that less than 50% of the registered voting population voted... that's basically just what happens. Between a lot of people just having political apathy, being indecisive or classic Republican voter suppression (which was one of the reasons basically all Democrats voted by mail), that's just how it works.
The really high voter turnout this time isn't a result of fraud, it's a result of us all realizing we can't afford a second term of Trump, so we all HAVE to vote in order to prevent that.
Also, for the hundred-or-so-th time... prove the fraud. Either you prove it, or you're just lying straight out of your ass. I don't need to paraphrase Lilith on what happens if you keep insisting the burden of proof lies on the skeptic, don't I?
 

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How is skepticism of the political process a strawman? Do you believe advertisements are for your benefit unless you can prove that they are for someone else's instead?
 

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How is skepticism of the political process a strawman? Do you believe advertisements are for your benefit unless you can prove that they are for someone else's instead?
this isn't skepticism, it's denialism
skepticism accepts evidence to the contrary and actually seeks proof
denialism just ignores all evidence to the contrary and just seeks bias confirmation because they're biased to begin with
you are a denialist in this situation
you are in denial
either actually provide reliable evidence to your claims, or get your head out of your ass and stop denying the election results
 

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That's... not what that means at all.
If you mean that less than 50% of the population voted, of course! It's not like every single person in the nation is a registered voter, especially considering the fact that there do exist people too young to vote.
Sorry, I was wrong. 58% of eligible voters vote apparantly.
 

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Skepticism doesn't accept what is being said just because it's being said. I seek truth, but also acknowledge that I msy not have access to it in the interim. That does not mean that I should accept something sub-par.
 

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First, there is a difference between your claim of "meddling" and fake ballots. "Meddling" includes a wide range activities that can be morally gray, innocent, or malicious.
Russian meddling in the 2016 election was not "morally gray" or "innocent."

And if it is Seth Rich who was the source of the wikipedia leak, then you only have the DNC to blame.
Not only are your Russia conspiracy theories unsubstantiated by evidence, but the Seth Rich conspiracy theories were debunked long ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

Conspiratorial thinking is dangerous, and it causes one to reach all sorts of unfounded conclusions.

Also, I can say as many times as you, that there is evidence, but you are constantly invested in denying it. You hate Trump that much.
No evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election has been provided by anyone. You're as much a fool as you are a political hack.
 
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