Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Foxi4]

Again that's assuming you weren't first pointing a loaded gun at the person who shoved you, as Rittenhouse was. Self-defense goes both ways, and the people who actually live and work in Wisconsin have a much more legitimate claim to it than an angry teenage incel who crossed state lines specifically to target protestors with opposing political views.

Let's not forget that Kyle wasn't just attacked with a skateboard - one of the three attackers also threatened him with a handgun, that's the individual whose arm was maimed. It was perfectly reasonable for Kyle to assume that he was in mortal peril. I would have to review the two tapes and the photographs to verify your gun-waving allegation, but if you want to travel back in time to before the confrontation took place, Rittenhouse is on record publicly stating his intentions, none of which include suppressing first amendment rights. He went there for the explicit purpose of protecting life and property. The whole thing's a mess if you ask me, however I can't help but side with the person who was on the ground being beaten as opposed to those who were doing the beating. It's regrettable that those riots took place at all, so much violence and property damage could've been avoided of cooler heads prevailed.

 

[Xzi]

Rittenhouse is on record publically stating his intentions, none of which include suppressing first amendment rights. He went there for the explicit purpose of protecting life and property.

And we all know modern day Republicans/Trump supporters would never lie. Murder, sure, but lying? That's one line they'll never cross.

It's regrettable that those riots took place at all, so much violence and property damage could've been avoided of copper heads prevailed.

Almost like we should be hiring police with cool heads to avoid any more extrajudicial killings and and thus avoid the riots that result from them, eh? Human lives are more valuable than any property, despite what Trump's coronavirus response would have you believe.

 

[Foxi4]

And we all know modern day Republicans/Trump supporters would never lie. Murder, sure, but lying? That's one line they'll never cross.

Almost like we should be hiring police with cool heads to avoid any more extrajudicial killings and and thus avoid the riots that result from them, eh? American lives are more valuable than property, despite what Trump's coronavirus response would have you believe.

This applies until it's your property, your family business, that's being looted and set on fire. Putting that aside, two wrongs don't make a right. Setting cities on fire is not a great way to show that your community is being policed too harshly, or that the police is not sufficiently trained. Quite the opposite - when the city's on fire, it's time to call in the big guns and disperse the rabble. First amendment right to peaceably assemble is one thing, destroying livelyhoods of your fellow neighbours who did absolutely nothing to cause the problem is another. The violence and destruction makes the message resonate weaker, not stronger - it's hard to empathise with people who are actively destroying their own towns and cities.

 

[Xzi]

The violence and destruction makes the message resonate weaker, not stronger - it's hard to empathise with people who are actively destroying their own towns and cities.

What you're missing here is that these are neighborhoods where roughly 90% to 95% of citizens have no investment and no stake in the upkeep of their towns and cities. They've been segregated, gentrified, and generally boxed out by mega-corporations. On top of which, there's a pandemic ongoing which has put an extra strain on small businesses and caused many of them to close. Then to put a nice little bow on top of everything, they're policed by people who don't live in their neighborhood and don't look or act like them.

With this type of desperation and poverty being a constant, riots should be wholly expected. Frankly the only surprising thing about them is that a smaller spark didn't set them off sooner.

 

[KingVamp]

Seems like if the other guy didn't go for the disarm and immediately went in blazing, Rittenhouse might have been shot instead.

 

[Deleted member 326676]

The U.S. Supreme Court denies Republican appeal of 2020 election results in Pennsylvania
https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/120820zr_bq7d.pdf

(ORDER LIST: 592 U.S.)
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2020
ORDER IN PENDING CASE
20A98 KELLY, MIKE, ET AL. V. PENNSYLVANIA, ET AL.

The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.

Three more nails in the wide-spread election conspiracy coffin:

- Trump appointee Justice Neil Gorsuch
- Trump appointee Justice Brett Kavanaugh
- Trump appointee Justice Amy Coney Barrett

One sentence denial. Not a single dissenting opinion. Trump and his allies are now a mind-boggling 1-51 in post-election litigation.

RIP wide-spread conspiracy kraken

 

[tabzer]

You are behind on the show. There's a new episode.

 

[djpannda]

The Supreme Court rejection has to sting a bit. I was wondering what happen to JIMBO with the those Clarence Thomas Memes. He was soo adamant Thomas was going to use the Supreme Court to express some personal vendetta. But 1 sentence reject usually means everyone agreed in Unison.

oh yea... he got Suspended again.

 

[Deleted member 326676]

You are behind on the show. There's a new episode.

tab, are you referring to this episode?
Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1336331358642163725

 

[Xzi]

tab, are you referring to this episode?
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1336331358642163725

God I don't know how much dumber this whole thing can get...they don't even realize what getting their way would mean here. It would give New York or California the power to determine the outcome of elections in Texas.

 

[tabzer]

God I don't know how much dumber this whole thing can get...they don't even realize what getting their way would mean here. It would give New York or California the power to determine the outcome of elections in Texas.

How so?

 

[Xzi]

How so?

If Texas can use the courts to make other states to overturn their election results, the opposite is also true. Obviously no individual state holds that type of power over the others though, so the lawsuit is completely farcical and a waste of time and resources for all involved. If the judge is smart he'll hold them accountable for that waste.

 

[tabzer]

If Texas can use the courts to make other states to overturn their election results, the opposite is also true. Obviously no individual state holds that type of power over the others though, so the lawsuit is completely farcical and a waste of time and resources for all involved. If the judge is smart he'll hold them accountable for that waste.

States can already file suit against other States. The grounds is on the violation of the constitution. The case is being brought to the Supreme Court.

"Under Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over cases between states."

 

[omgcat]

States can already file suit against other States. The grounds is on the violation of the constitution. The case is being brought to the Supreme Court.

"Under Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over cases between states."

it'll get thrown out from lack of standing. just because you can sue, doesn't mean the judge can't throw it out for being brain dead retarded. I guarantee the supreme court won't grant cert, because if they do, the court gets sued for conflict of interest since Trump appointed 3/9 justices.

 

[Xzi]

States can already file suit against other States. The grounds is on the violation of the constitution. The case is being brought to the Supreme Court.

"Under Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over cases between states."

And they'll refuse to hear it, just like they refused to hear the PA case. Even Trump's SCOTUS appointees aren't stupid enough to commit political suicide by laying bare their biases in that way. They can still be impeached, after all.

it'll get thrown out from lack of standing. just because you can sue, doesn't mean the judge can't throw it out for being brain dead retarded. I guarantee the supreme court won't grant cert, because if they do, the court gets sued for conflict of interest since Trump appointed 3/9 justices.

Precisely. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

 

[Seliph]

Every time I reopen this thread to check what's going on I take 50 psychic damage

 

[Driving_duck]

The lawsuit from texas can be said in just one word. Bullshit. Texas can not intervere with the other states results, because it does not concern them outside of political stuff, which is personal. This case will get thrown out and Texas will be called a peice of shit for even thinking about filing this case, let alone actually file it. This is litterally just a attempt for the general to get a pardon from trump, as you can see with the scandle going on right now with him before this suit even came to play. Its time for this to end, its pretty clear that trump will most likely be a one term president, the first one since i think the 1980 or 1970s. And running for 2024? No president has even done that successfuly but cleavland, and that was also really long ago. While trump has done, maybe one or two things well, (Im talking about when he tried to ban Titok, that cancer should die.) Its time for trump to go out with a bang. He lost, and could do a lot of things right during the span of a month. (Doubt it, and even then when jan 20 comes, that wont be the only time he will be serving.) Its pretty much set in stone that trumps lawsuits would, and have fail. While biden isnt the greatest, he could at least reform this country somewhat, by giving us more coronavirus protection. And towards the Republicans that think trump won, Your braindead. He lost. At least he did not kill the country or the entire world, I will give him credit for that, but even your uncle bob could do that. In conclusion, GOP, give up on trump for now. He will lose, and would go down as a one term president, just wait 4 more years for a new face to try the hand, of america.

 

[tabzer]

"Case dismissed on the grounds of braindead retarded bullshit."

 

[omgcat]

"Case dismissed on the grounds of braindead retarded bullshit."

This but non-ironically. The AG of texas is fishing for a pardon from trump.

 

[tabzer]

I personally see "our vote is compromised by their vote, because we followed the constitution and they did not" as a valid contention. Saying it's none of their business could be something SCOTUS says. But the election is Federal, so...