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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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To be fair, a large number of people in rural areas feel as though the government doesn't give two shits about them, so when Trump campaigned and promised to pay attention to them and what they needed, they obviously were going to pay attention.

It was a couple years ago, so I don't have the exact source, but I remember seeing a documentary of some kind where they got a handful of Harvard students (the type of people who would be politicians or hold important jobs in the future) and took them to a rural town. They were surprised at how friendly the locals were, and had been convinced beforehand that all rural people were racist, horrible people. So, a lot of people in urban areas where politicians are traditionally campaign the most barely see rural Americans as even people.

If you want to prevent another person like Trump being elected, it would probably be in your best interest to look into the people who originally voted for him and why they did so. What needs did they have that the typical politicians weren't meeting up until that point to make them want to vote for Trump. Keep in mind that back in the 2016 election, all of the various scandals and issues hadn't happened yet, and the most bad publicity was an inappropriate statement that he had made during the campaign. Even after he was elected, the media jumped on him for things like preferring steak well-done with ketchup. (Whether you like it or not, that's not only a petty thing to get in an uproar about, but for rural people can be easily explained. When you're a kid and you eat mainly a parent's cooking, even if they're a horrible cook, you develop a taste for it and can still become nostalgic for it as an adult. Hell, my family was poor enough that some days our dinner was only mashed potatoes and country gravy, and it's still a favorite meal of mine as an adult.) Once the media cemented that they weren't going to see him in a positive light regardless of what he did, and belittle him for things as minor as food preferences, it made it easier to brush away any real scandals as the media demonizing him and at worst making major exaggerations over what were most likely much less serious things that most politicians would have probably done.


Trump vs Establishment isn't complicated. It's populist Nationalism vs Open border globalism, it's about people who want constant mass migration influx's vs people who feel were full.

Biden voters didn't really have much to consider from the grave.

 
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Interesting that this video isn't being reported by the media, no?

Makes me feel very sad for the people who are going to be surprised when the sh*t hits the fan and all the evidence is released. They have been gaslighted by most of the media, but what makes it worse is that these people want the gaslighting to be the reality. When their bubble has finally been burst, they sadly won't be angry with the gaslighter, but instead the party that is showing them they have been subjected to gaslighting.

Have a look at this video to see the wheels starting to fall off the "unsubstantiated voter fraud" claim you see doing the rounds.

https://fb.watch/28xWLwJpVU/
 
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People want to feel normal and accepted. People prey on that. People prey on innocence.
 

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Makes me feel very sad for the people who are going to be surprised when the sh*t hits the fan and all the evidence is released. They have been gaslighted by most of the media, but what makes it worse is that these people want the gaslighting to be the reality. When their bubble has finally been burst, they sadly won't be angry with the gaslighter, but instead the party that is showing them they have been subjected to gaslighting.

Have a look at this video to see the wheels starting to fall off the "unsubstantiated voter fraud" claim you see doing the rounds.

https://fb.watch/28xWLwJpVU/
Allegation =/= Evidence

This accuser has provided no evidence. You have provided no evidence. To date, the courts have yet to encounter any such evidence of wide-spread voter fraud; hence the Trumplicans humiliating 1-40 record in post-election litigation.
Gaslighting
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Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment. It may evoke changes in them such as cognitive dissonance or low self-esteem, rendering the victim additionally dependent on the gaslighter for emotional support and validation. Using denial, misdirection, contradiction, and misinformation, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's beliefs.

For example:

1. Denial: Denying the outcome of the most "most secure [election] in American history."
2. Misinformation\Misdirection\Contradiction: Claiming the election was sabotaged by wide-spread voter fraud in absence of any such evidence. Claiming the liberal media is conspiring in a gaslighting operation despite state courts, federal courts, FBI, DOJ, annnnd federal oversight agencies (GCC & CISA) unanimously agreeing with them.

Sorry, but repeating the word "gaslighting" umpteen times in a primitive untruthful manner doesn't magically grant you a logical counter-argument to your side's appalling 1-40 post-election litigation record. It only highlights how desperate you are.

See ya on January 20th!
 

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Allegation =/= Evidence

This accuser has provided no evidence. You have provided no evidence. To date, the courts have yet to encounter any such evidence of wide-spread voter fraud; hence the Trumplicans humiliating 1-40 record in post-election litigation.



For example:

1. Denial: Denying the outcome of the most "most secure [election] in American history."
2. Misinformation\Misdirection\Contradiction: Claiming the election was sabotaged by wide-spread voter fraud in absence of any such evidence. Claiming the liberal media is conspiring in a gaslighting operation despite state courts, federal courts, FBI, DOJ, annnnd federal oversight agencies (GCC & CISA) unanimously agreeing with them.

Sorry, but repeating the word "gaslighting" umpteen times in a primitive untruthful manner doesn't magically grant you a logical counter-argument to your side's appalling 1-40 post-election litigation record. It only highlights how desperate you are.

See ya on January 20th!

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This is the exact type of guy I feel sorry for.
 
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Exhibit A

This is the exact type of guy I feel sorry for.
I'm the type of guy who provided facts to successfully counter your conspiracy theory. Your the type of guy who responds with personal attacks rather than the evidence necessary to support your wide-spread voter fraud allegation (there isn't any).
 

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Easy. Trump made an assertion that can only gain traction. People have been shifting goal posts ever since. You seem to be on the wrong page. You are supposed to say,"it's too late," because everyone can see the fraud.
 
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Easy. Trump made an assertion that can only gain traction. People have been shifting goal posts ever since. You seem to be on the wrong page. You are supposed to say,"it's too late," because everyone can see the fraud.
Hard to see any fraud when y'all still haven't given a single piece of evidence that doesn't crumble under any scrutiny in 5 seconds.
 

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Hard to see any fraud when y'all still haven't given a single piece of evidence that doesn't crumble under any scrutiny in 5 seconds.
I mean, you can choose to look away from it. That makes it hard to see. AFAIK, it's the utter lack of scrutiny in which it has been dismissed. You are using "scrutiny" ironically. Scrutiny would be making mountains out of anthills. The rulings have starkly been the contrary. "Oh, fraud, well it doesn't seem to be enough to warrant any seriousness".

Learn English, while you have the advantage. You might have to learn Chinese tomorrow. ;)
 

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Exhibit A

This is the exact type of guy I feel sorry for.

yes... your right
just because we have not won any really lawsuit YET.
Just because the Judges are throwing out our cases because we have not brought any really proof..
just because we have not presented any proof publicly or privately
just because We claimed that a President that has been dead for 8 years from a poor South American country stole the election
Just because we are claiming that now North Korea brought fake ballots to Maine by a SUBmarine
Just because we are only claiming fraud in 6 states that Trump lost but not mentioning that 24 states have used the same system.

That does not mean We have lost!!
 
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Election fraud is only a allegation when your partisanship is stronger than your eyesight and common sense.

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Election fraud is only a allegation when your partisanship is stronger than your eyesight and common sense.

yvxzt9h.jpg
you do know that pic is Random people trying to enter the Polling place while screaming "stop the steal" .. Those were not legal or valid poll watchers ( we where Already inside.)
What you are showing is a picture of a Screaming mob trying scare tatics to innocent poll workers..
 
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