'Watch Dogs: Legion' source code reportedly leaked

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Some weeks ago, ransomware gang "Egregor" claimed to have gained access to the internal networks of Ubisoft and Crytek and stole data from both companies. Now it seems that some of this data has actually been leaked in the form of the source code of Ubisoft's latest game Watch Dogs: Legion. There are various reports of private trackers hosting this stolen code at a size of around 560 GB. This could make way for mods, optimization and cracking of the game’s anti-piracy measures.

As for Crytek, "Egregor" apparently found documents detailing the developer's plans. These include plans for a battle-royale game called Crysis Next, Crysis VR and a new Ryse game. Additionally, their findings showed that the developer might also be planning to remaster Crysis 2 and Crysis 3.

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Can we add aiden pearce in the game now?

Edit : I may be the only one who enjoyed and misses WD1
 
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If other sources are getting hit left and right then they need to learn and upgrade.
Easy to say, but we've seen Nintendo and Sony get hacked in the past, no one is off limits and any site is hackable. Again, I doubt Ubisoft is significantly less secure than any of the other guys, they were just the target here.
 

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Easy to say, but we've seen Nintendo and Sony get hacked in the past, no one is off limits and any site is hackable. Again, I doubt Ubisoft is significantly less secure than any of the other guys, they were just the target here.
Yeah, and how much do they settle out in courts after they full on sue the ones that did it? Still feel no emotion towards either they'll get their money through sales or court either way.
 

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Yeah, and how much do they settle out in courts after they full on sue the ones that did it? Still feel no emotion towards either they'll get their money through sales or court either way.
Genuinely can't tell what exactly you're saying here lol
 

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Yeah, and how much do they settle out in courts after they full on sue the ones that did it? Still feel no emotion towards either they'll get their money through sales or court either way.
That assumes
a) they will catch them (they might be behind 7 proxies after all)
b) if they do they will be in a country where the courts will care (if they are in Russia or China or similar then good luck even getting a court to answer the phone).
c) that they will get their money in the end -- win 100 million against me and even if I got the best job in my field and gave them everything I earn assuming I live to be 100 that will barely even be 1% of that. Just because you have a judgment does not mean you can collect on it/collect the full value of it.
 

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That assumes
a) they will catch them (they might be behind 7 proxies after all)
b) if they do they will be in a country where the courts will care (if they are in Russia or China or similar then good luck even getting a court to answer the phone).
c) that they will get their money in the end -- win 100 million against me and even if I got the best job in my field and gave them everything I earn assuming I live to be 100 that will barely even be 1% of that. Just because you have a judgment does not mean you can collect on it/collect the full value of it.
I can voice my opinion on what's more then likely going to go down, regardless of where they're at I'm more than certain they will want to take action especially on recent leaked source code. I'm sure they'll be happy just to catch the suspects so they'll at least sleep well knowing they can't do it again. Someone else may it's a never ending thing. The most they can do is try for legal action to hopefully put a scare in future leakers minds.
 

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I can voice my opinion on what's more then likely going to go down, regardless of where they're at I'm more than certain they will want to take action especially on recent leaked source code. I'm sure they'll be happy just to catch the suspects so they'll at least sleep well knowing they can't do it again. Someone else may it's a never ending thing. The most they can do is try for legal action to hopefully put a scare in future leakers minds.

Is some security firm likely combing through whatever logs, torrent uploads, leak info itself for choice phrases/fingerprints, they have in the hope that one of the hackers did not use a burner SIM, VPN, hacked wifi or library/coffee shop at least once when fishing the files out? Sure, would be stunned actually if they were not. I would also be stunned if the would be hackers playing at this level don't know to do such things (or indeed multiple such things) -- most of the time anybody that fails here in court cases I have seen were forced to do so in a panic or once they were onto them.

Will they likely make a fig leaf attempt to upgrade security? Also sure, though whether they keep it upgraded (security only matters to people after a failure, and even then they have a short memory as security is annoying so "just get rid of it so I can log in quicker" tends to crop up).

5 broad scenarios for the hack as I see it as well

1) Some super hacker out there made a whole new exploit. Doubt they would burn it on something like this but stranger things have happened.

2) Some super hacker out there that is not them made a hack and released it publicly/for fixing but updates did not happen.

3) In the rush to allow everybody to work from home due to this virus lark then someone did not think things through, said "poke it let's just give everybody FTP access" or something equally lame on the security front and thus left the door wide open. Possibly some combination of things allowed deeper access that was not fully audited/vetted (if someone if grabbing all the gigabytes I might know for my network but seems even banks these days don't always have such systems in place for intrusion detection).

4) Some employee was hacked on their own laptop or whatever and that provided credentials or a way in. They might have also had their own local copy "to make things faster" which is just as juicy a target.

5) Some ex/disgruntled employee (including contractors, testers and the like) provided some credentials to a shady associate (or maybe was that shady associate) and things went from there. Might have had a hide a USB drive in a coffee cup over several weeks (though that might have some tells).
 

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Is some security firm likely combing through whatever logs, torrent uploads, leak info itself for choice phrases/fingerprints, they have in the hope that one of the hackers did not use a burner SIM, VPN, hacked wifi or library/coffee shop at least once when fishing the files out? Sure, would be stunned actually if they were not. I would also be stunned if the would be hackers playing at this level don't know to do such things (or indeed multiple such things) -- most of the time anybody that fails here in court cases I have seen were forced to do so in a panic or once they were onto them.

Will they likely make a fig leaf attempt to upgrade security? Also sure, though whether they keep it upgraded (security only matters to people after a failure, and even then they have a short memory as security is annoying so "just get rid of it so I can log in quicker" tends to crop up).

5 broad scenarios for the hack as I see it as well

1) Some super hacker out there made a whole new exploit. Doubt they would burn it on something like this but stranger things have happened.

2) Some super hacker out there that is not them made a hack and released it publicly/for fixing but updates did not happen.

3) In the rush to allow everybody to work from home due to this virus lark then someone did not think things through, said "poke it let's just give everybody FTP access" or something equally lame on the security front and thus left the door wide open. Possibly some combination of things allowed deeper access that was not fully audited/vetted (if someone if grabbing all the gigabytes I might know for my network but seems even banks these days don't always have such systems in place for intrusion detection).

4) Some employee was hacked on their own laptop or whatever and that provided credentials or a way in. They might have also had their own local copy "to make things faster" which is just as juicy a target.

5) Some ex/disgruntled employee (including contractors, testers and the like) provided some credentials to a shady associate (or maybe was that shady associate) and things went from there. Might have had a hide a USB drive in a coffee cup over several weeks (though that might have some tells).

It sure is hard to tell how all of this really went down that I get. I'm not saying there's no way either parties can find out what happened either. We'll never know but I sure hope the devs don't just sit back on it and say oh well better luck next time. It would just make them seem like a target for everyone.

The net is an easy place to hide information sure, but it's also an easier place to get caught with information.
 

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From all accounts, the game seems to have turned out fairly lame anyway.

Should play it yourself before judging.

Trash game anyway.

Played it yourself?

It is, it is among the worst games I have played in a very long time. Its disgusting that Ubisoft can roll out such a laughably terrible game, it honestly players like a Xbox 360/ PS3 game (and that's being very kind). Bare in mind, thus us supposed to be a next gen game, I really can't see Ubisoft fixing the:

Poor and lazy game mechanics
Terrible voice acting
Atrocious a.i.

I could keep going, the reviewers aren't much better, as the scored are reasonable.

It's got a metascore of 76 on PC, 72 on PS4 and 77 on Xbox One. It'll probably not make game of the year, but that is still very, very far away from whatever you wanted to say with that last paragraph I quoted - I guess that reviews are bad - and if that's among the worst game you played, I wonder what else you play. Can't be much.

That being said, I just wanted to point out that it is not by any means perfect, but still very enjoyable. I'd rate it a 7.5-8 out of 10 myself, as someone who actually played and beat it. It's Watch Dogs, more of the same formula, if you expected anything else then you're the fool here. Anyone who enjoyed WD1 and WD2 will surely also have a blast with Legion.
 

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Should play it yourself before judging.



Played it yourself?



It's got a metascore of 76 on PC, 72 on PS4 and 77 on Xbox One. It'll probably not make game of the year, but that is still very, very far away from whatever you wanted to say with that last paragraph I quoted - I guess that reviews are bad - and if that's among the worst game you played, I wonder what else you play. Can't be much.

That being said, I just wanted to point out that it is not by any means perfect, but still very enjoyable. I'd rate it a 7.5-8 out of 10 myself, as someone who actually played and beat it. It's Watch Dogs, more of the same formula, if you expected anything else then you're the fool here. Anyone who enjoyed WD1 and WD2 will surely also have a blast with Legion.
Why are you so adamant to defend this game?
 

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Wow, that's fucked. I mean it's one thing for the likes of the Mario 64 source to leak some 20+ years after release, but this game just came out. Normally I'm all about mods and hacking, but this news just depresses me, not excite me.
Very probably it's an inside job, cauz no one else except people who worked at project knew the exact way to move inside their private servers. some employees must really hate Ubisoft and backstabbed the company on sight.
 

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Lol, a game about hacking got hacked.
Same/smilar how back in the day "Lords of the Fallen" was cracked finally (then as new "Denuvo protected" game which got cracked/fallen)....... I mean, the frist proper "scene release" crack for a Denuvo protected game.
 
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Apparently it's like 500gb of uncompressed assets...and the scripts were created with a "scratch" like environment...which is pretty primitive I think?
the people who create the game scripts/events/text/cutscenes etc, aren't necessarily developers - so it can make sense that there's something like 'scratch' which makes it easy for do things.
think about mario maker - you are able to make levels without having to program.
real companies use internal tools that their devs make to accomplish similar things.
 
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Not to mention that devkits have huge amount of RAM, 2-3 times more than retail consoles.... and all the different assets which never got removed, they often change it during the early development, there were multiple interviews in the last 10-20 years or so with developers on "why there are so many unusued stuff left in their final retail game releases"....

Reasons be....... in short, time issues and laziness which they said, sometimes even on purpose unpopular decisions for whatever reason like"disabled" functins/feautures before the release (like removed local coop multiplayer prior to release which modders found in the game fiiles and re-implemented it back to the game).
 
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