[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[blaydes99]

I voted for Vermin Supreme. I already said in this thread that I won't be voting for Biden. That being said, I would still like for you to address my concerns in the previous comment. Please quote where I posted any misleading titles or statistic.

Let's not kid ourselves, as Lacius said it is a two-person race.
But yes, I don't see any misleading titles or statistics that you posted, so I mispoke when I grouped you with that type of practice. Sorry about that!

On the other hand, I am disappointed to hear you say this "...won't stop Trump supporters from continuing to be the worst kinds of people...". When you make swooping generalizations about millions and millions of people that you've never met before, you will 100% be wrong. Please try to be a little more tolerant! I know decent people who support Trump, and decent people that support Biden. Hating one group or the other right out the gate makes us think you have been "programmed by the media", if that makes sense?

 

[The Catboy]

It's a two-person race. To vote for anyone other than Biden or Trump is to say you don't have a preference between the two.

I can't support Biden, the dude inappropriately touches women and young girls, there's literally video evidance of him doing this. Trump literally brags about sexually assulting women and has a long history of sexual misconduct. Simply put, picking between them isn't picking the lesser evil for me, they are both creeps and both equally trash in my book. I will literally support anyone else at this point because I am not picking between those two. I really can't keep supporting the "lesser of two evils" mentality, because this is where it's gotten us.

 

[gregory-samba]

Is that really what you believe? That someone who doesn't like Trump and his cult of personality are "programmed by the media?" That it couldn't possibly be some actual other reasons to dislike like Trump and his following?

Yes it's what I believe as most people that hate Trump hate him because of the media coverage they've been exposed to. The thing is the Liberal media is just all lies and manipulated information in the form of attacks on Trump. So yes, I believe you're gullible enough to believe them hence your position on Trump. Racist? Homophobic? Transphobic? Xenophobic? Nope, all lies as Trump is none of them. It's just too bad you're too dense to realize you're being lied to.

 

[blaydes99]

I can't support Biden, the dude inappropriately touches women and young girls, there's literally video evidance of him doing this. Trump literally brags about sexually assulting women and has a long history of sexual misconduct. Simply put, picking between them isn't picking the lesser evil for me, they are both creeps and both equally trash in my book. I will literally support anyone else at this point because I am not picking between those two. I really can't keep supporting the "lesser of two evils" mentality, because this is where it's gotten us.

I think it is worthy of respect that you stick to what you believe in.

I do think character is very important. For me, this election is also about a lot more than my personal preference and/or like or dislike for the candidates. I've lived in other countries outside the U.S. (including Venezuela) so I've seen first-hand what some of these proposed "socialist" policies can do to a society and a country. Thus, I'm very much NOT in favor of that stuff.

 

[Lacius]

I can't support Biden, the dude inappropriately touches women and young girls, there's literally video evidance of him doing this. Trump literally brags about sexually assulting women and has a long history of sexual misconduct. Simply put, picking between them isn't picking the lesser evil for me, they are both creeps and both equally trash in my book. I will literally support anyone else at this point because I am not picking between those two. I really can't keep supporting the "lesser of two evils" mentality, because this is where it's gotten us.

1. There's no evidence of Biden doing anything super inappropriate.
2. The two candidates are night and day on policy, temperament, etc.
3. Biden probably gets you 90% of the way there on just about every issue you likely care about. Trump takes you backwards.
4. If it were a case of "the lesser of two evils," the lesser of two evils is literally less evil by definition.
5. People who vote for Trump and people who vote for neither are, to use your words, "equally trash in my book."
6. "Where it's gotten us" is people not voting for Democratic candidates for the reasons you listed above has gotten us Trump and everything that came with him.
7. Your selfishness and mindlessly lazy platitudes are causing demonstrably physical harm.

 

[Joom]

When you make swooping generalizations about millions and millions of people that you've never met before, you will 100% be wrong. Please try to be a little more tolerant!

The problem is that the terrible Trump supporters are representative of all his supporters. They're the loudest people, and the rest don't disavow their actions. I've made the argument that to be a Trump supporter one either have to be racist, or fine with racism. They're either white nationalists, or fine with nationalism. Then the rest are just ignorant who don't read policy or anything else, and only support the republican party because it's their "team". But like, unless you're one of the other two things I listed, or a major corporation, the republicans don't care about you, and it makes absolutely no sense to support them.

I can't support Biden, the dude inappropriately touches women and young girls, there's literally video evidance of him doing this. Trump literally brags about sexually assulting women and has a long history of sexual misconduct. Simply put, picking between them isn't picking the lesser evil for me

I mean, it should really boil down to whether or not you want a fascist as your leader, and if you want someone who has your best interest in mind. You're gonna have a hard time finding a politician who hasn't done something morally reprehensible, and you're not gonna get very far if all you pay attention to is surface-level scandals. And I've got bad news for you; you're always "choosing between the lesser evils". It's impossible to avoid. You do it in every day life, and you always will. You know how you get changes you want? You vote for the lesser evil, then bully the shit out of them when they don't deliver. You can't do that under a fascist whose only goal is to destroy our democracy just to save his ego.

 

[Magnus87]

Are you ready? Now everything related to Pizza Gate will disappear

 

[blaydes99]

The problem is that the terrible Trump supporters are representative of all his supporters. They're the loudest people, and the rest don't disavow their actions. I've made the argument that to be a Trump supporters either have to be racist, or fine with racism. They're either white nationalists, or fine with nationalism. Then the rest are just ignorant who don't read policy or anything else, and only support the republican party because it's their "team". But like, unless you're one of the other two things I listed, or a major corporation, the republicans don't care about you, and it makes absolutely no sense to support them.

I mean, it should really boil down to whether or not you want a fascist as your leader, and if you want someone who has your best interest in mind. You're gonna have a hard time finding a politician who hasn't done something morally reprehensible, and you're not gonna get very far if all you pay attention to is surface-level scandals.

Huh, so good for you, you've made a lot of stupid arguments! That doesn't really prove anything does it?

You write with a personal bias, which aligns with the common media (and BLM) narrative. And you really made me laugh when you write about Trump supporters. I know tons of Black and Hispanic Trump supporters, I guess you would probably call them racists too!

Not only are your opinions subjective and close-minded, in my opinion all the rioting, shooting, and racist slogans put up by so called equality groups are the real racists. Maybe you just don't understand: actions against ANY RACE because of their skin (whether white, black, or anything in between) is racist. In other words, BLM in a nutshell.

Definition of racism: "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group."

You sound like the kind of person that has already decided that what you think you know is right, even though you don't have all the facts. Then, when presented with the facts, you'd probably still deny them. Just like the people shown in this video:

 

[The Catboy]

1. There's no evidence of Biden doing anything super inappropriate.
2. The two candidates are night and day on policy, temperament, etc.
3. Biden probably gets you 90% of the way there on just about every issue you likely care about. Trump takes you backwards.
4. If it were a case of "the lesser of two evils," the lesser of two evils is literally less evil by definition.
5. People who vote for Trump and people who vote for neither are, to use your words, "equally trash in my book."
6. "Where it's gotten us" is people not voting for Democratic candidates for the reasons you listed above has gotten us Trump and everything that came with him.
7. Your selfishness and mindlessly lazy platitudes are causing demonstrably physical harm.

Hi, yeah, I am literally one of those groups of people whose rights have been constantly under threat since Trump took office. I don't need a lecture on why I should support Biden. I am fully aware of how dangerous and horrible Trump is, I literally once had my rights to join the military revoked, had bathroom rights revoked in many states, and countless other horrible shit Trump's presidency was either directly responsible for or his policies allowed to happen. That being said, your first example is just flat wrong. There are plenty of videos to prove that
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=biden+hair+sniffing
It doesn't take much effort to find these videos and all of them depict inappropriate touching of women and young girls. Violating someone's personal space and touching them without their consent is an example of inappropriate touching. I draw the line right there, anyone who does that shit is someone I don't support. That being said, I am just gonna make this my last post on this thread and hopefully keep it that way.

 

[Joom]

Are you ready? Now everything related to Pizza Gate will disappear

Good. That garbage needs to fully die already so organizations who actually work toward stopping human trafficking can stop being hindered by idiotic conspiracy nuts who come from image boards that breed pedophiles.
https://coloradotimesrecorder.com/2...forts-to-stop-actual-human-trafficking/29063/

Not only are your opinions subjective and close-minded, in my opinion all the rioting, shooting, and racist slogans put up by so called equality groups are the real racists.

Hoo boy, I pity you. You actually buy into Crowder's grift. And thanks for proving my point. Nothing I said was subjective in the slightest, and you're calling people who are protesting racial injustice racists. I just wonder how you people even come to these conclusions. Morality aside, it's not even logical.

Definition of racism: "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group."

Ok? Anything to pointlessly fluff a rebuttal I guess. You're really not proving me wrong here considering this is everything the Trump administration and his constituency are all about.

You sound like the kind of person that has already decided that what you think you know is right, even though you don't have all the facts

I'll be waiting for said facts. I dunno what you even mean by this, or how a Crowder video is somehow factual, but alrighty.

 

[USUKDecks]

I don't like a d!cktatorship, don't like nazi's , hate racism and entitled elitism just as much. Plus trump is an ass clown and nothing good ever comes from a rightwing dictatorship....ever! never in history....ever! His followers are a cult who think he's benefited them, he hasn't... only the top 5% income earners and corporations but their blind hatred towards non-whites and their overwhelming ignorance makes them believe no matter that he's THE choice and a god. Remember he said he brought back religion, he said only jesus was greater than him and he also told you to drink bleach. Not to mention the other 3 billion retarded idiot things he's said and or done.

 

[blaydes99]

Hi, yeah, I am literally one of those groups of people whose rights have been constantly under threat since Trump took office. I don't need a lecture on why I should support Biden. I am fully aware of how dangerous and horrible Trump is, I literally once had my rights to join the military revoked, had bathroom rights revoked in many states, and countless other horrible shit Trump's presidency was either directly responsible for or his policies allowed to happen. That being said, your first example is just flat wrong. There are plenty of videos to prove that
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=biden+hair+sniffing
It doesn't take much effort to find these videos and all of them depict inappropriate touching of women and young girls. Violating someone's personal space and touching them without their consent is an example of inappropriate touching. I draw the line right there, anyone who does that shit is someone I don't support. That being said, I am just gonna make this my last post on this thread and hopefully keep it that way.

And not to mention that Biden seems to sadly be having mental issues too. He has said he is "running for the Senate", running against "George" so-and-so, and the list goes on. You can find 15 and 20 minute compilations on Youtube and elsewhere of all the crazy stuff he's said. The stuff he has said goes beyond simple mistakes that a person would make in public speeches. It kind of looks like early Alzheimer's or something.

 

[Joom]

And not to mention that Biden seems to sadly be having mental issues too.

And Trump isn't? We all know their geriatrics, but for some reason, Trump's supporters actually believe him when get gets on stage and shouts about how young he is and his superior genetics. At least Biden has age as an excuse, but everything Trump encompasses seems beyond delusional.

 

[blaydes99]

I'll be waiting for said facts. I dunno what you even mean by this, or how a Crowder video is somehow factual, but alrighty.

Haha, what do you mean "facts"? You are clearly not interested in facts, as you demonstrated in your opinions. Maybe try and re-read my claim again, you missed it the first time. I'm comparing you to the people in the video. Get it?

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And Trump isn't? We all know their geriatrics, but for some reason, Trump's supporters actually believe him when get gets on stage and shouts about how young he is and his superior genetics. At least Biden has age as an excuse, but everything Trump encompasses seems beyond delusional.

Oh boy, you really don't get it do you? Trump knows how to troll the media and liberals (and you) and you fall for it every time. That's what makes it so funny to the rest of us.

 

[Joom]

Haha, what do you mean "facts"? You are clearly not interested in facts, as you demonstrated in your opinions. Maybe try and re-read my claim again, you missed it the first time. I'm comparing you to the people in the video. Get it?

You keep saying "opinions", but none of it is an opinion. I know what you're doing. You're just bad at it. Don't claim I need facts when you can't even offer a rebuttal of your own other than by posting the definition of racism.

 

[blaydes99]

You keep saying "opinions", but none of it is an opinion. I know what you're doing. You're just bad at it. Don't claim I need facts when you can't even offer a rebuttal of your own other than by posting the definition of racism.

Kind of hard to have a conversation with you when you don't know the basic definition of words. Do you know what "opinion" means, or do you think "your opinion" = "facts"?

 

[Joom]

Oh boy, you really don't get it do you? Trump knows how to troll the media and liberals (and you) and you fall for it every time. That's what makes it so funny to the rest of us.

Right. This is why Ben Garrison comics always portray Trump as some jacked dude with a six pack. "HE JUST TROLLIN U LOLOLO". Keep huffing that copium, bud. You're about to need a huge dose of it.

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Kind of hard to have a conversation with you when you don't know the basic definition of words. Do you know what "opinion" means, or do you think "your opinion" = "facts"?

But you did absolutely nothing to refute my statements other than to say I was wrong without proving how I am. So...deeeerrrrrrp?

 

[Deleted member 326676]

Another case of TDS! Almost seems more contagious than covid! Fancy that. It is actually the Biden supporting-rioters that are the "worst kinds of people" as you put it. How many Trump supporters have you seen rioting? Oh, that's right: zero.

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Well yes. When people like you and Biden supporters cite misleading news stories and statistics as facts, you live in a fantasy vacuum. AKA brainwashing. If you were to go out and do any research for yourself, the bias would be much easier to identify. If you even study a little basic marketing ideology you would be able to spot the bias.

Speaking of bias, I indeed shared multiple confirmation bias articles earlier in this thread to help explain bias to those who keep linking us to right wing extremist propaganda websites. Needless to say, it didn't help.

 

[Lacius]

Hi, yeah, I am literally one of those groups of people whose rights have been constantly under threat since Trump took office. I don't need a lecture on why I should support Biden. I am fully aware of how dangerous and horrible Trump is, I literally once had my rights to join the military revoked, had bathroom rights revoked in many states, and countless other horrible shit Trump's presidency was either directly responsible for or his policies allowed to happen. That being said, your first example is just flat wrong. There are plenty of videos to prove that
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=biden+hair+sniffing
It doesn't take much effort to find these videos and all of them depict inappropriate touching of women and young girls. Violating someone's personal space and touching them without their consent is an example of inappropriate touching. I draw the line right there, anyone who does that shit is someone I don't support. That being said, I am just gonna make this my last post on this thread and hopefully keep it that way.

You absolutely need a lecture on why you should vote for Biden. You are literally voting against your own civil rights by not doing so.

Worse, you're selfishly voting against everybody else's civil rights. You're acting like a child.

 

[Joom]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

C'moooon, Texas. I believe we can get it to go blue. Ohio is closing in, too.