STAR TREK - Picard series Produktion/Filming has begun.

[Alexander1970]

Wikipedia "spoilers" about the "other" Cast:

Jonathan Del Arco as Hugh: A former Borg drone who appeared in the Next Generation episodes "I, Borg" and "Descent, Part II"[5

and the German also added Whoopi Goldberg...

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Picard

 

[Hardline]

I liked the first episode

 

[FAST6191]

Early reviews seem to be coming in. Have not bothered myself yet but most of the ones I have seen align pretty well with what I have also seen.
Not a disaster on the scale of Discovery, never mind series 2 of that, but seemingly not particularly in keeping with his character or the framework of star trek in general and some pretty weak writing/science.

 

[Deleted User]

I think it was a good first episode.
Seems vulcans and romulans look the same now, hmmm.

Liked the Data dream sequence, I´m more a fan of the TNG series than
the movies, but somehow I had the song "A British Tar" in my mind.

The holograms are a good idea, that´s the one thing I liked in the
remake of the Time Machine.

For the plot, about AI, okay nothing new, lets see were they are going with it.
Want to know the state between the borg and the federation.

/OT
It´s interesting AI is already used for example to filter words, photos and videos.
Even stock traders rely on AI as it only needs miliseconds to decide.
Today I read theres no way to make an AI unlearn something it has already learned.
-> Humans ... pro / cons ... machines ... pro / cons ... decision ...

 

[Alexander1970]

I think it was a good first episode.
Seems vulcans and romulans look the same now, hmmm.

Liked the Data dream sequence, I´m more a fan of the TNG series than
the movies, but somehow I had the song "A British Tar" in my mind.

The holograms are a good idea, that´s the one thing I liked in the
remake of the Time Machine.

For the plot, about AI, okay nothing new, lets see were they are going with it.
Want to know the state between the borg and the federation.

/OT
It´s interesting AI is already used for example to filter words, photos and videos.
Even stock traders rely on AI as it only needs miliseconds to decide.
Today I read theres no way to make an AI unlearn something it has already learned.
-> Humans ... pro / cons ... machines ... pro / cons ... decision ...

Unfortunately a little "previous knowledge" is recommended to understand.....

Spoiler: Next Generation...

- Bruce Maddox
- Death of Data / B4 (Before)
- Romulan "Super Nova"
- the "Manner of Death" (from Dash)
(- the Banner "Picard Day")

 

[Deleted User]

Ah, I think I get it now, thanks.

Somehow I must have forgotten B4, and didn´t quite understood what happened in / after
Star Trek 2009 or rather what changed after that.
Time travels are indeed dangerous and paradox, Doc Brown.

One question remains, Dash?
(Short term memory loss, sorry)

 

[FAST6191]

So I watched the first two episodes of Picard.

I also watched the first two episodes of the original TNG despite having never seen them before (I wandered in far later there, and probably spent more time watching Voyager anyway). People also tell me it took a while for things to get good in that series as well.

For the most part I am content to write off Star Trek as soft sci fi with the occasional interesting philosophical pondering, and have no particular attachment to the concept. To that end Picard could well warrant a star trek in name only type categorisation, and if you did like the themes and concepts then I can see being rather upset at its handling.
As a standalone show there are far better. I doubt I will be watching the rest of the series.

 

[Alexander1970]

So I watched the first two episodes of Picard.

I also watched the first two episodes of the original TNG despite having never seen them before (I wandered in far later there, and probably spent more time watching Voyager anyway). People also tell me it took a while for things to get good in that series as well.

For the most part I am content to write off Star Trek as soft sci fi with the occasional interesting philosophical pondering, and have no particular attachment to the concept. To that end Picard could well warrant a star trek in name only type categorisation, and if you did like the themes and concepts then I can see being rather upset at its handling.
As a standalone show there are far better. I doubt I will be watching the rest of the series.

The Next Generation (and Deep Space 9 too) had his "Troubles" with the First Season.....
I remember TNG the first 15 Episodes.....it was so boring (in places)......and a French,bald Captain....
It really starts (my personal Opinion) with Episode 23..

Spoiler

- when Tasha died.

 

[godreborn]

I'm having the same problem with this series as star trek discovery. I don't like star trek being serialized. it seems to work better episodic. plus, it doesn't feel as optimistic as star trek. there's too much darkness.

 

[Alexander1970]

I'm having the same problem with this series as star trek discovery. I don't like star trek being serialized. it seems to work better episodic. plus, it doesn't feel as optimistic as star trek. there's too much darkness.

That is absolute correct.....

This "darkness" starts with Enterprise (in my Opinion)........the Producers/Makers have "Lost" the Vision from Gene Roddenberry....
Voyager - for me also not the "best" Star Trek Series.....also a beginning "dark" Series...

 

[FGFlann]

Everything about this show is wrong.

People have been saying it's Star Trek written by people who hate Star Trek for people who don't like Star Trek, and it's true.

Picard, arguably the most important and influential Starfleet Captain ever, being treated like dirt by everyone or people flat out not knowing who he is.

Irish Romulans.

Bullshit pseudo-mystic narrative about a prophesied destroyer.

Woman living in self-imposed poverty in the desert in a post-scarcity society, but it's somehow Picard's fault.

Romulus destroyed = Whole Empire destroyed.

Instant supernovas.

"Borg Rituals"

"Colourful metaphors" returning to the 24th century.

Fat Data.

Super Secret Romulan Death Squads That Hate Robots For Some Reason.

I hate it.

End me.

 

[FAST6191]

I'm having the same problem with this series as star trek discovery. I don't like star trek being serialized. it seems to work better episodic. plus, it doesn't feel as optimistic as star trek. there's too much darkness.

I thought Discovery failed for a whole load of different reasons than Picard is failing for me thus far -- for one Picard has at least the glimmer of a compelling character or three, as opposed to the continuing adventures of mary sue and her fat girl companion. Both have fundamental flaws in their science, even within their universe's rules, and that usually serves to drag me right out of it but Picard's (supernova aside) are a different type there again.

As for TV for the binge watch/DVD box set generation I am not opposed to such things, and think it opens up a bit more in the way of options than some often considerable philosophical concept to be started and put to rest in a 40 minute episode (or two parter if it happened to be that time of the year).

On the matter of darkness I think just about every sci fi show I have ever liked has had a serious element of darkness at its core