New Abortion Law Wave

[Deleted User]

Braindead people dont recover. Hence the "dead" part

Alright... Erm, a braindead person, who, thanks to a RADICAL new treatment and limited amounts of damage will be able to think like a normal person and eventually enter back into society?

 

[WeedZ]

Alright... Erm, a braindead person, who, thanks to a RADICAL new treatment and limited amounts of damage will be able to think like a normal person and eventually enter back into society?

If such a thing existed.. my point is, we do kill braindead people. It's called pulling the plug. So your point kinda falls flat.

 

[Deleted User]

If such a thing existed.. my point is, we do kill braindead people. It's called pulling the plug. So your point kinda falls flat.

Yeah, but there's a RADICAL new treatment!

Seriously, if there was a guarantee that, most of the time, a braindead patient would wake up within 6 months, would you still kill them? I know it's not realistic, but just go with me here. If such a world existed, and you lived in it (hypothetically), would you still pull the plug on one of these guys if given the option?

 

[cracker]

That's like saying there is a radical new method for separating an embryo back into a sperm and egg. It is a fanciful what-if until it is a reality.

 

[Undwiz]

Sorry , I just hate the fact of killing Babies, Just a little pet peeve. Hell lets just make post-birth abortion Legal, f*ck 18 weeks lets make it 18 years.

Makes me sick that abortion is legal , I have 5 kids - all planned and I would not trade them for anything. Fact that people whore around knowing there is many ways to prevent getting Pregnant and don't use it then kill the kid cause they think they are grown up enough to take what goes in and can't take what comes out....Just makes me sick............. sorry run-on sentence .

 

[FAST6191]

Sorry , I just hate the fact of killing Babies, Just a little pet peeve. Hell lets just make post-birth abortion Legal, f*ck 18 weeks lets make it 18 years.

Makes me sick that abortion is legal , I have 5 kids - all planned and I would not trade them for anything. Fact that people whore around knowing there is many ways to prevent getting Pregnant and don't use it then kill the kid cause they think they are grown up enough to take what goes in and can't take what comes out....Just makes me sick............. sorry run-on sentence .

Are they killing kids or having an abortion? Rather notable distinction there.

 

[Undwiz]

Are they killing kids or having an abortion? Rather notable distinction there.

A Fetus has a heartbeat by 5 weeks, usually the same time a women realizes she has missed a period. The baby is alive at that point... So no not a notable distinction. the baby is alive and yes then abortion is killing a life... Heartbeat = Life

 

[FAST6191]

Heartbeat = Life

Is a heart not just a mechanical pump? Why would I pick that as a point of delineation?

 

[Undwiz]

Is a heart not just a mechanical pump? Why would I pick that as a point of delineation?

delineation? Funny choice of wording , as there is no answer just opinion like this entire discussion.

 

[FAST6191]

delineation? Funny choice of wording , as there is no answer just opinion like this entire discussion.

OK what philosophical, logic or ethical reason might I have for placing greater restrictions on myself and others over what the, seemingly time tested and otherwise agreed upon, laws of the land say is cool here? Why would I use a heartbeat as the dividing line between alive and dead in this instance?

 

[Undwiz]

OK what philosophical, logic or ethical reason might I have for placing greater restrictions on myself and others over what the, seemingly time tested and otherwise agreed upon, laws of the land say is cool here? Why would I use a heartbeat as the dividing line between alive and dead in this instance?

I watched my 15 month old Daughter die in front of me back in 2015. She had a heart condition HLHS. it hurt really bad to she her go. To see people just destroy the gift of having a child hurts.


You can cry Yay for abortion all you want..... My answer is Nay is you made the choice to have Sex... Just what can come with it.

anyway done with Arguing with pro child killers... take care buddy. last post on this topic.

 

[FAST6191]

Fair enough. One day we might see some good debate.

 

[Undwiz]

 

[1NOOB]

Meh . As long as it doesnt have a brain and a fonctional organic systems its not alive . Or if there is any probleme to it or just if the woman is not ready , i see so many reasons , you all take life for something too important . "You dont know how it is when youndont have kid" ever heard of dumpster babies? Sure the mom was feeling wonderful , what about crack babies . Lol so many different stroke . You think too small stay in your little world where wathever make you slwep at night . We are not the hero of our story we are just atoms evolving and surviving .

 

[cracker]

It isn't until about 10 weeks where anything resembling a heart has formed at 6 weeks it is basically 2 tubes separated by a layer of cells. The 'heartbeat' is akin to an electric signal that can be detected. Nothing has developed enough to be considered the anatomy of a human until much later than 6 weeks. If you don't believe me then research the topic. Compare a human fetus to that of other animals to get a better idea of how early in development 6 weeks really is.

 

[Bonehead]

The bible is pro-genocide, btw.

 

[cots]

Well, I guess I'm late returning to the party. I was banned for a few days due to the fact that I linked to an external site that had a picture of what remains after the abortion process. Funny thing is, if there's nothing wrong with abortion than why should posting pictures about the process be a bannable offense? The mods called it "gore", but wouldn't it have to be more than some cells bound together (aka life) to be considered gore? Either way, I think I made my point. If anyone viewed the picture and is permanently scarred by it - that wasn't my intention, but you'll see worse in biology class. I will, in the future, refrain from linking to any more pictures of this kind.

 

[WeedZ]

Well, I guess I'm late returning to the party. I was banned for a few days due to the fact that I linked to an external site that had a picture of what remains after the abortion process. Funny thing is, if there's nothing wrong with abortion than why should posting pictures about the process be a bannable offense? The mods called it "gore", but wouldn't it have to be more than some cells bound together (aka life) to be considered gore? Either way, I think I made my point. If anyone viewed the picture and is permanently scarred by it - that wasn't my intention, but you'll see worse in biology class. I will, in the future, refrain from linking to any more pictures of this kind.

You attempted to shock people to make a point, but there was no point to be made here. That wasn't a picture of the aftermath of an abortion. It was a fully formed baby. If it was indeed aborted, it was done illegally as abortions in that stage of development is illegal. It was just gore, and this tactic of exploiting a gruesome dead baby to scar people for the sake of argument is absolutely disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[supersonicwaffle]

You attempted to shock people to make a point, but there was no point to be made here. That wasn't a picture of the aftermath of an abortion. It was a fully formed baby. If it was indeed aborted, it was done illegally as abortions in that stage of development is illegal. It was just gore, and this tactic of exploiting a gruesome dead baby to scar people for the sake of argument is absolutely disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Uh, yes, it is legal in quite a few places.

 

[WeedZ]

Uh, yes, it is legal in quite a few places.

The only countries that allow abortion after the general gestational age limit do so with strict limitations. You wont find any developed country that will allow a late stage termination without there being severe health risks to the mother or the child itself.