Liberal indoctrination in universities?

[Clydefrosch]

congrats, you talked to european nationalists and racists. you can find similar racists and nationalists like them all over the globe in any nation btw. they're talking the same shit everywhere.
just kidding, not believing you ever talked to europeans knowingly or about any of this.
other than right now, when they tell you you're full of shit.

I'd agree with migrants being an issue if they caused just a fraction of the issues good old americans cause in their own country, or if they caused just a fractions of the issues my own countrymen and women cause in mine.
but they don't. it's the oldest scapegoat bullshit in history to blame your own problems on whatever outsider is around, and it's never solved any problem whatsoever.
of course there aare issues involving migrants.
and there are things that are only an issue because outsiders exist at all.
obviously, when a thing exists in a place, it can be an issue or be the cause for issues.
but it's not that migrants are the cause of issues. it's that migrants are humans and humans cause issues.

also, your perception of the third world is ridiculous and likely based on bad tv and videogames and other bs you read on reddit? yes, life is hard in an nigerian slum. yes, lack of options and perspective is a breeding ground for hostility and crime. and there is a lot of government corruption preventing any real solutions to be pu to action. but that's the case everywhere in the world where things don't look so hot at every time. like it is for the us every other decade.
and it's also not even close to be like that everywhere in the third world. there is diversity too. if you believe you can even so much as vaguely sum up any country in less than a million words, you're just cherrypicking like an idiot.

90% european? what does that even mean? europe is culturally and ethically diverse just by being europe. different countries, different histories, different beliefs, at times different ideals and visions for the future.

tl;dr: you understand that people on reddit and 4chan threads lie, right? a reddit thread about migrants telling horror stories about scandinavia? where did you find that? on /r/thedonald or /r/conservative?

I'm sure you also believe in those facebook posts about vegans creeping up behind you in stores to lecture you and unvaxxed 4 year olds eloquently owning their doctors about the dangers of vaccines, right?


Also, universities aren't mostly liberal because people are being indoctrinated there. They are because there's little rational reason to think otherwise if you care about the future at all.

 

[Ev1l0rd]

@Maluma - This is a false equivalency. I didn't say shit about a third world country.

Yes obviously America is better than any third world country. It's the literal baseline (yeah sorry Americans not the peak, far from not the peak) at which I consider a country to be first world. That's also completely irrelevant to what I said.

I said that the picture you're being given of Europe by these sources of yours is completely and utterly insane and is not grounded in reality which indicates you've never been there yourself or have had meaningful interactions with people from there (or talked to extremist idiots).

"my political ideology" -> Oh? What would my political ideology be then. Do tell. I don't think I ever stated my political stance in public.

 

[Deleted-401606]

congrats, you talked to european nationalists and racists. you can find similar racists and nationalists like them all over the globe in any nation btw. they're talking the same shit everywhere.
just kidding, not believing you ever talked to europeans knowingly or about any of this.
other than right now, when they tell you you're full of shit.

I'd agree with migrants being an issue if they caused just a fraction of the issues good old americans cause in their own country, or if they caused just a fractions of the issues my own countrymen and women cause in mine.
but they don't. it's the oldest scapegoat bullshit in history to blame your own problems on whatever outsider is around, and it's never solved any problem whatsoever.

also, your perception of the third world is ridiculous and likely based on bad tv and videogames and other bs you read on reddit? yes, life is hard in an nigerian slum. yes, lack of options and perspective is a breeding ground for hostility and crime. and there is a lot of government corruption preventing any real solutions to be pu to action. but that's the case everywhere in the world where things don't look so hot at every time. like it is for the us every other decade.
and it's also not even close to be like that everywhere in the third world.

90% european? what does that even mean? europe is culturally and ethically diverse just by being europe. different countries, different histories, different beliefs, at times different ideals and visions for the future.

tl;dr: you understand that people on reddit and 4chan threads lie, right? a reddit thread about migrants telling horror stories about scandinavia? where did you find that? on /r/thedonald or /r/conservative?

I'm sure you also believe in those facebook posts about vegans creeping up behind you in stores to lecture you and unvaxxed 4 year olds eloquently owning their doctors about the dangers of vaccines, right?


Also, universities aren't mostly liberal because people are being indoctrinated there. They are because there's little rational reason to think otherwise if you care about the future at all.

I lived in the third world unlike you,but clearly you are too busy hiding in Germany from the comfort of your home.Maybe if you were an adult and had some perspective on the world you would understand certain things about how the world functions.You didn't even bother reading the post so why bother commenting?Who are you to tell me that I haven't spoken to Europeans?You know nothing about me.Once you grow up and become a man you will be able to understand the world better,until then it would be best that you either stop talking about things you don't understand or at least give yourself the opportunity to live in the third world so you can form an opinion.Hiding in Germany is clearly not doing you any good as far as understanding how the world works outside of your bubble of comfort.Don't comment on my posts if you are not going to bother to read them.

 

[Deleted-401606]

another thing I'm unwilling to believe you whatsoever.
because if you had that kind of experience under your belt, you'd know how insane your arguments are.
you would know that the common perception of any third world country does barely overlap with the reality.
you would know who is to blame for a country going belly up. it's certainly never the average citizen.

and how childish and transparent for everyone to see you are projecting all that crap onto me.
clearly you are a child, likely a lifetime away from being a man, who never left their personal comfort zone and didn't bother to read what I wrote.

I literally reacted to your nonsense paragraph by paragraph.
Whereas you did not react to anything I said at all, but at best to whatever you saw on the left under my username.

It doesn't matter if you believe it or not.It is a fact that I am from a third world country,the problem here is that people chose to ignore facts when they are inconvenient to their arguments.You are being very rude by affirming you know things about me that you have no clue about.I'm not going to engage with you any further if you aren't going to show at least a base line level of respect.

 

[CORE]

@Clydefrosch You should Respect everyone
and that goes for their Opinions or way of Life too. You dont need a reason.

LIBERALS AND IN THIS CASE UN EUROPE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE!

You have the nerve to call anyone a Dictator when your very foundation is built on a dictatorship.

You can keep your brainwashing to yourselves.

You can only Censor Peoples Voice for so long.

 

[Clydefrosch]

@Clydefrosch You should Respect everyone
and that goes for their Opinions or way of Life too. You dont need a reason.

LIBERALS AND IN THIS CASE UN EUROPE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE!

You have the nerve to call anyone a Dictator when your very foundation is built on a dictatorship.

You can keep your brainwashing to yourselves.

You can only Censor Peoples Voice for so long.

brainwashing? now that's a concept lunatics love to get behind. it's very revealing.

lunatics don't get respect. they get pity at best and even that is undeserved.

I'm sure you haven't heard, but the dictator time is over 70 years in the past.
But that time did give us quite the eye to make out dictators and those that wish with all their might they could be one.

 

[osaka35]

As a rule of thumb, the more educated and understanding you are, the more liberal you appear. You also tend to be less religious, but that's neither here nor there. Tends to be why universities are a bit more liberal. You learn about how the world works there, and you see the results of different ideologies and policies. You may still be a fiscal conservative, which is a completely different matter nowadays, but most of the rest of the current conservative ideals don't hold water when you actually understand a bit more about they affect the world.

@Clydefrosch You should Respect everyone
and that goes for their Opinions or way of Life too. You dont need a reason.

You automatically respect a person's ability to choose for themselves. You automatically respect a person's autonomy. You automatically respect a person's ability to have an opinion. This is given.

You do not automatically respect a person's opinions. You do not automatically respect a person's actions. You do not automatically respect a person's assertions. This is earned.

these are very different things and shouldn't be lumped together.

 

[SG854]

As a rule of thumb, the more educated and understanding you are, the more liberal you appear. You also tend to be less religious, but that's neither here nor there. Tends to be why universities are a bit more liberal. You learn about how the world works there, and you see the results of different ideologies and policies. You may still be a fiscal conservative, which is a completely different matter nowadays, but most of the rest of the current conservative ideals don't hold water when you actually understand a bit more about they affect the world.

I wouldn’t say that is true. Usually the arguments I hear are, who cares if Universities are overwhelmingly Democrats. Democrats are smart, Republicans are idiots. Academics are smart so therefore since most are Democrats, that’s because High Education=Democrat and they have the best answers to our countries problems. Democrats support science, Republicans don’t. That’s the reality.

If this was true and using the same logic that Universities lean more Democrat because that’s where educated people lean, then when it comes to Businesses, Economics and Finance, more lean Republican because they have the best answers when dealing with money distribution, businesses and minimum wage.




Republicans are 24% more likely then Dems to be a business owner. Most small business owners vote Republican (this isn’t your big manipulative corporation, just your average guy wanting to run a family business). Republicans are more likely to be Presidents, Vice Presidents and finance executives. And more likely to be in real estate, financial services and whole sale trade. And Nobel prizes have been won by a Republican Economists. So using the same logical reasoning more people vote Republican in these areas are because republicans are smarter then Dems at how the economy works.

Im sure hearing that statement people will outrage saying they are the reason why the country is in shambles, we are worse off because of it. Ok so then why don’t Dems step up, and save our country, and outnumber Republicans by becoming business owners and work in financial services. Supposedly more of the country votes Dem so it should be easy finding people right?





Dems are higher in openness they are better at trying and coming up with new ideas, but they are not as good as unifying those ideas and having order, they are essentially all over the place. That’s where Republicans come in at maintaining order, discipline and tradition, which helps put those things into a sellable product. It’s why creators more likely to be Dem and business owners more likely to be Republican. They are work in unison to compliment each other. Imagine using the logic of more Dems means smarter with male and female, saying more men in certain jobs is because men are smarter. I’m sure people would also want a female perspective because they bring diversity of ideas that males don’t, and both compliment each other.

 

[osaka35]

I wouldn’t say that is true. Usually the arguments I hear are, who cares if Universities are overwhelmingly Democrats. Democrats are smart, Republicans are idiots. Academics are smart so therefore since most are Democrats, that’s because High Education=Democrat and they have the best answers to our countries problems. Democrats support science, Republicans don’t. That’s the reality.

If this was true and using the same logic that Universities lean more Democrat because that’s where educated people lean, then when it comes to Businesses, Economics and Finance, more lean Republican because they have the best answers when dealing with money distribution and minimum wage.




Republicans are 24% more likely then Dems to be a business owner. Most small business owners vote Republican (this isn’t your big manipulative corporation, just your average guy wanting to run a family business). Republicans are more likely to be Presidents, Vice Presidents and finance executives. And more likely to be in real estate, financial services and whole sale trade. And Nobel prizes have been won by a Republican Economists. So using the same logical reasoning more people vote Republican in these areas are because republicans are smarter then Dems at how the economy work.

Im sure hearing that statement people will outrage saying they are the reason why the country is in shambles, we are worse off because of it. Ok so then why don’t Dems step up, and save our country, and outnumber Republicans by becoming business owners and work in financial services. Supposedly more of the country votes Dem so it should be easy finding people right?





Dems are higher in openness they are better at trying and coming up with new ideas, but they are not as good as unifying those ideas and having order, they are essentially all over the place. That’s where Republicans come in at maintaining order, discipline and tradition, which helps put those things into a sellable product. It’s why creators more likely to be Dem and business owners more likely to be Republican. They are work in unison to compliment each other. Imagine using the logic of more Dems means smarter with male and female, saying more men in certain jobs is because men are smarter. I’m sure people would also want a female perspective because they bring diversity of ideas that males don’t, and both compliment each other.

i did say fiscally conservative is different than those "conservatives" in power . those in power give lip service to actual fiscal conservative ideals, then do the frikin' opposite. all while blaming liberals, poisoning the well for both conservatives and liberals. it's suppose to be liberals are for protecting people in the best way possible, and conservatives make sure it's done the best fiscal way possible. would explain a bit of what you're speaking towards. our leaders speak as if they act this way, but do not act this way, with rare exception.

so when people are against conservatives, it's generally those ideals that have nothing to do with fiscal responsibility, or the anti-fiscal-but-passed-off-as-fiscal positions of those in power. conservatives should be just as pissed as liberals.

 

[chaoskagami]

@Clydefrosch You should Respect everyone
and that goes for their Opinions or way of Life too. You dont need a reason.

Just what I expect from a Lunatic lmao more rhetoric I bet your foaming at the mouth.

Hm, I smell burnt toast. Or hypocrisy.

To be honest, aside from inserting snark at how positively idiotic some of this drivel is, I have nothing else to contribute to this topic.

It's become yet another instance of crazy pro-Trump supporters presenting biased and unacceptable non-sources, circular arguments, appeals to authority and other such invalid arguments in an actual discussion, along with completely ignoring any evidence to the contrary. And the rational people attempt to point out flaws in arguments, only to be met with ad hominem.

 

[CORE]

You all have it in for Trump and his Russian ties yet your pushing Communism such hypocrisy.

@chaoskagami I already mentioned in earlier post about my burnt Toast and have already blamed the Russians.

 

[SG854]

i did say fiscally conservative is different than those "conservatives" in power . those in power give lip service to actual fiscal conservative ideals, then do the frikin' opposite. all while blaming liberals, poisoning the well for both conservatives and liberals. it's suppose to be liberals are for protecting people in the best way possible, and conservatives make sure it's done the best fiscal way possible. would explain a bit of what you're speaking towards. our leaders speak as if they act this way, but do not act this way, with rare exception.

so when people are against conservatives, it's generally those ideals that have nothing to do with fiscal responsibility, or the anti-fiscal-but-passed-off-as-fiscal positions of those in power. conservatives should be just as pissed as liberals.

Corporate Dems are also in the same camp as corporate Republicans. And there are Republicans that criticizes corporate interests. They are against heavy welfare and should be even against corporate welfare to stay consistent.


Liberals do have people on their side that is crazy. It isn’t a monopoly of crazies. While conservatives more likely to deny global warming, Dems more likely to deny the safety of Nuclear Energy since Nuclear is our best solution right now, and environmentalist over exaggerate it’s dangers. Same topic but both dangerous perspectives, and not just from Republicans only.

 

[osaka35]

Corporate Dems are also in the same camp as corporate Republicans. And there are Republicans that criticizes corporate interests. They are against heavy welfare and should be even against corporate welfare to stay consistent.


Liberals do have people on their side that is crazy. It isn’t a monopoly of crazies. While conservatives more likely to deny global warming, Dems more likely to deny the safety of Nuclear Energy since Nuclear is our best solution right now, and environmentalist over exaggerate it’s dangers. Same topic but both dangerous perspectives, and not just from Republicans only.

I'm right there with you. Democrats are rarely as liberal as they say they are and are just as easily corrupt. Heck, Obama was a centrist as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

It drives me crazy when they are anti-nuclear. Old nuclear, sure, whatever, but not the new stuff! it's totally the best option.

 

[Ev1l0rd]

You all have it in for Trump and his Russian ties yet your pushing Communism such hypocrisy.

I see nobody here pushing for communism.

Or is this American communism? (Aka anything more left than center)

 

[chaoskagami]

I'm right there with you. Democrats are rarely as liberal as they say they are and are just as easily corrupt. Heck, Obama was a centrist as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

It drives me crazy when they are anti-nuclear. Old nuclear, sure, whatever, but not the new stuff! it's totally the best option.

This is true and also not. The fact is, most modern reactors are perfectly safe outside of the plant and emit only water vapor from cooling systems into the atmosphere.

The problem here is threefold. First, there are still a lot of old reactors that are operational which really should be shut down and rebuilt safer.

Second, regardless of external safety, working inside a reactor plant is always going to be a hazardous job with severe medical risks.

Third, more often than not they don't use material until it is completely inert but dispose of the material (e.g. dump in waste sites) past a threshold where efficiency of energy production drops (I believe it was 95% or so.) This is not environmentally friendly whatsoever and needs to stop.

And yes, I also agree there are crazies on both sides. The right-wing is just significantly more vocal and far more detached from reality. But as far as politicians go, they're playing a game of chess. The democrats appeal only because they tell us what we want to hear; I suspect most are just as corrupt as the GOP members and also view us as nothing more than cattle to profit off of.

Perhaps that's also why they won't impeach Trump. That would end the "game" so to speak.

 

[osaka35]

This is true and also not. The fact is, most modern reactors are perfectly safe outside of the plant and emit only water vapor from cooling systems into the atmosphere.

The problem here is threefold. First, there are still a lot of old reactors that are operational which really should be shut down and rebuilt safer.

Second, regardless of external safety, working inside a reactor plant is always going to be a hazardous job with severe medical risks.

Third, more often than not they don't use material until it is completely inert but dispose of the material (e.g. dump in waste sites) past a threshold where efficiency of energy production drops (I believe it was 95% or so.) This is not environmentally friendly whatsoever and needs to stop.

And yes, I also agree there are crazies on both sides. The right-wing is just significantly more vocal and far more detached from reality.

aye, the environmental aspect needs to be addressed. things like thorium reactors help address the environmental, but require more shielding and the like. I think there are solutions, just have to say it like that.

 

[CORE]

@Ev1l0rd Yeah that is why Antifa and Mob Rule is rampant including Political Correctness.


Mass Conservative Censorship.
MAGA That is hateful.

Burning your own Flags That is so American.

 

[chaoskagami]

@Ev1l0rd Yeah that is why Antifa and Mob Rule is rampant including Political Correctness.


Mass Conservative Censorship.
MAGA That is hateful.

Burning your own Flags That is so American.

Nationalism is a useless relic of the past. The internet has interconnected the entire world, so pointlessly limiting your view of the world to one bubble is harmful to the human race's development. That is, if you're talking about burning flags metaphorically. If not, since burning a flag harms nobody (aside from if you do it in a public place where it would be a health hazard) frankly I fail to see the problem with such an act. It's a piece of fabric, and unless you're activelyy imbuing some meaning in burning a piece of fabric, who cares?

I agree that censorship is actively harmful, since as long as what we're talking about is purely fictional we're getting into thought crime with any governmental or self-censorship. Which is again, harmful to creative freedom and freedom of expression. But you fools also are advocating censorship when you say that anyone who doesn't believe in Trump-ism should be jailed for treason or whatever. That's eliminating freedom of expression.

That said, evidentally you don't understand what anti-fascism is since you don't even understand what fascism is. And fascism is bad. Period. End of debate. You'd think more people living in a democratic republic would understand that fascism is counter to the very principles the government was founded on, but I'm reminded every day how half of the human race is too stupid to think for themselves. And we're not under "mob rule" whatever the fuck that means. We're currently a banana republic or an olligarchy, take your pick.

 

[CORE]

@chaoskagami Well your set in your ways just like the others from your Collective I prefer to keep my own Individuality and Freedom to speak for myself.

 

[Ev1l0rd]

@chaoskagami Well your set in your ways just like the others from your Collective I prefer to keep my own Individuality and Freedom to speak for myself.

Do you understand what fascism (or authoritarianism, which is a more concrete term) is?

Individuality and freedom hold no place in those ideologies. At all.