Hacking Discussion Team Xecuter Websites Down.

What do you think happened most likely?

  • Nintendo DMCA'd them.

  • TX took the money and ran .

  • TX was loosing money because of ATMOS so they couldn't afford to pay their bills.

  • Standard TX hate comment.


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Worst case, I get banned from access to their servers.

So you are in fact violating licenses by using CFW and TX is violating licenses by selling GPL code and not providing the source to it. You do realize that you're both violating licenses.
 
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i find it miserable that for such a stupid discussion, it takes 35 pages.. as a user, I wonder when that damn 3.0 promised for a whole 4 months will finally come.. and whether the domain will go back

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This so much. I swear they give it more attention than their actual paying users. It's really sad in a way.
after the dmca it doesn't appear on google lols.. that proves stargate is tx.. isn't sx installer a copy of lithium any way?
 

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i find it miserable that for such a stupid discussion, it takes 35 pages.. as a user, I wonder when that damn 3.0 promised for a whole 4 months will finally come.. and whether the domain will go back

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after the dmca it doesn't appear on google lols.. that proves stargate is tx.. isn't sx installer a copy of lithium any way?
no it's not. It's actually developed by Blawar. He made DZ, then renamed it to try to fly on the Tinfoil name. He also sold his code to TX, and probably gets paid a little sum once he updates SX installer. Then he made a DZ Tinfoil light called Lithium for some reason.
 

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i find it miserable that for such a stupid discussion, it takes 35 pages.. as a user, I wonder when that damn 3.0 promised for a whole 4 months will finally come.. and whether the domain will go back

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after the dmca it doesn't appear on google lols.. that proves stargate is tx.. isn't sx installer a copy of lithium any way?
Sx installer is developed by the same developer as lithium, blawar. They can't copy it cause lithium and tinfoil are closed source. I know that tx have many faults, my point is that complaining about them won't change a thing and it's annoying af.
 
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Sx installer is developed by the same developer as lithium, blawar. They can't copy it cause lithium and tinfoil are closed source. I know that tx have many faults, my point is that complaining about them won't change a thing and it's annoying af.

"can't copy" "cause lithium and tinfoil are closed source"

Maybe developers who complain about people using their code in a way it's not licensed to could learn a thing or two by this statement. (I'm not against open source, but if you put your code on a public page what the hell do you expect from pirates?).
 

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"can't copy" "cause lithium and tinfoil are closed source"

Maybe developers who complain about people using their code in a way it's not licensed to could learn a thing or two by this statement. (I'm not against open source, but if you put your code on a public page what the hell do you expect from pirates?).
you are probably right, but you are selling piracy, which is a lot different than making a free homebrew with stolen code
 

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you are probably right, but you are selling piracy, which is a lot different than making a free homebrew with stolen code

Xecuter sells tools created to facilitate piracy breaking licenses in the process.

You the end user use CFW which in turn you use to facilitate piracy in the process breaking licenses.

Eh ...

You're right about the money though. It costs money which the cheap pirates don't like. If they didn't want to use SX OS and hated it so much why do they seek out cracked versions or are trying to crack it? It's all about the money. Hate and money. It's not about some petty licenses or even the fact that users are pirating games.
 
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"can't copy" "cause lithium and tinfoil are closed source"

Maybe developers who complain about people using their code in a way it's not licensed to could learn a thing or two by this statement. (I'm not against open source, but if you put your code on a public page what the hell do you expect from pirates?).
I rarely even see the actual devs the code get stolen from complaining. It's always their shills.
 
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Xecuter sells tools created to facilitate piracy breaking licenses in the process.

You the end user use CFW which in turn you use to facilitate piracy in the process breaking licenses.

Eh ...
What I mean is that SX OS have 2 illegal things:
1.-Copyrighted files from Nintendo to allow XCI loading
2.-Open Source broken Licenses if a developer doesn't want to make a software exclusive to their CFW

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I wouldn't have a problem with the first point if this software was free
and for the second one, although I'm not ok, your point is valid
 

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What I mean is that SX OS have 2 illegal things:
1.-Copyrighted files from Nintendo to allow XCI loading
2.-Open Source broken Licenses if a developer doesn't want to make a software exclusive to their CFW

Yes, I am aware of this, but if you're using CFW to play pirated games with what does it matter if the CFW you're using is breaking licenses or the law?
 
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Yes, I am aware of this, but if you're using CFW to play pirated games with what does it matter if the CFW you're using is breaking licenses or the law?
it matter, but the final user wouldn't care, that doesn't remove the fact that Nintendo have all the rights to shutdown their website
 

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I wouldn't have a problem with the first point if this software was free
and for the second one, although I'm not ok, your point is valid

I edited my original reply to your post reflecting the entire monetary situation and you made my point. Thanks.

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it matter, but the final user wouldn't care, that doesn't remove the fact that Nintendo have all the rights to shutdown their website

By using any CFW you're breaking licensing agreements with Nintendo and depending on the country you live in might be breaking the law. Nintendo has much of a right to file a DCMA complaint against SX OS, Atmosphere, ReiNX, etc ...

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I rarely even see the actual devs the code get stolen from complaining. It's always their shills.

If I hosted an open source project I would have to assume that someone bad would eventually use my code in a way I didn't approve of. I'm sure these developers know this too. How do they deal with it? I dunno, going around narking out people and throwing DCMA requests in their faces is sort of lame. However, I'm not sure how I would react to someone selling my code, but I would have to put part of the blame on myself for posting it on a site that anyone could see. Open source code has its advantages and disadvantages. I'd image that the best of people would just ignore it.
 
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This... is a very true point... I was just going under that assumption, the next questions are, if it's something different, when will it be released as to avoid patching in future consoles and if it is something different what level access does it have
Deja Vu is:
browserhax --> nvhax or nspwn --> some other expoit --> Dormez Vous (which then lets you reboot to a payload of your choice iirc)

browserhax for 1.0.0-6.1.0 is patched, nvhax was patched in 6.2, nspwn was patched in 5.0.0, dunno about that other exploit, and Dormez Vous is another hardware flaw that Nintendo is already aware of
 
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I edited my original reply to your post reflecting the entire monetary situation and you made my point. Thanks.

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By using any CFW you're breaking licensing agreements with Nintendo and depending on the country you live in might be breaking the law. Nintendo has much of a right to file a DCMA complaint against SX OS, Atmosphere, ReiNX, etc ...

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If I hosted an open source project I would have to assume that someone bad would eventually use my code in a way I didn't approve of. I'm sure these developers know this too. How do they deal with it? I dunno, going around narking out people and throwing DCMA requests in their faces is sort of lame. However, I'm not sure how I would react to someone selling my code, but I would have to put part of the blame on myself for posting it on a site that anyone could see. Open source code has its advantages and disadvantages. I'd image that the best of people would just ignore it.
https://www.criticalhit.net/technology/modifying-your-console-is-legal-in-the-eu/

https://www.notebookcheck.net/U-S-C...r-repair-purposes-legal-sort-of.346461.0.html

What I get from this is 1) EU it's totally legal to do what ever you please! 2) DMCA is iffy still about consoles and set-top boxes. But no courtcase so far.
 

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I honestly think this is the end of TX, they got all the money they wanted, there are a lot of obstacles to get the amount of money they got again
Save this, once 7.X release, SX will officially die and won't update ever again
 
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So you are in fact violating licenses by using CFW and TX is violating licenses by selling GPL code and not providing the source to it. You do realize that you're both violating licenses.
You're conflating a EULA (End User License Agreement) with the GPL Copyright License.

An EULA is not a legally binding contract. Instead, it's more of a "this is what we provide you as long as you follow the terms set henceforth". Ergo, breaking it only breaks the EULA and the services provided by signing the EULA can then be terminated at the whim of the other person if you break it. EULA violations are typically thrown out in court if they're deemed to be in conflict with other laws. (So in my situation -> the law permitting me to run custom stuff on my consoles trumps Nintendo's EULA).

On the other hand, a copyright license is closer to "criteria under which you can make use of this creation". Copyright law is very much stacked in favor of creators of content and a creator as a result has full control over how it is used, distributed, modified and derived from.

Unlike an EULA which is more "company says you cant do X but if you violate X, the worst they can do is cease your ability to access or use whatever they provided to you", copyright concerns actual laws that have been in place for nearly a century by now in the US, but in other countries since 1886. As a result, a copyright license is a legally binding agreement.

They're two completely different kinds of violations in terms of legal enforcability.

(Obviously, IANAL, not legal advice, consult a lawyer for real advice!)
 
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I honestly think this is the end of TX, they got all the money they wanted, there are a lot of obstacles to get the amount of money they got again
Save this, once 7.X release, SX will officially die and won't update ever again
The switch is huge and only been out a couple years. They still to this day sell modchips and all that other goofy xbox hacking crap you need. I'm pretty sure they even have inventory for OGxbox why would they ditch the switch during it's increased popularity when they still have a high number of users? Gateway had no way of keeping up with the 3ds scene they were muscled out hard largely based on their own inability to serve; despite that consoles particular popularity itself. With the way things are going for the switch they'll be able to thrive off it for years to come.
 
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nice dox @linuxares

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since wen revealing someone identity without consent is legal?
They're public.
Just google them and add xecuter and you find all the info I just told. So I see no point in censor their names.
 
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