Homebrew Discussion Nintendo is using ISP's to catch pirates

[PalomPorom]

A reliable logless VPN is 10 bucks a month. Worth the investment for sure. Or get a trustworthy proxy for $7. My best friend torrents the latest cracked pc releases all the time without protection and hasn't had any troubles. That lucky fucker

Sent from my toaster running Rebug

 

[chrisrlink]

I recommend never touching any torrent that has anything to do with any bethesda or zenimax media content. I got a infringement email for torrenting a skyrim patch that was like 9MB.

big mistake there for an official patch better have used a file hoster much safer I have yet to hear (or experianced myself) a violation from mega for downloading

 

[V-Temp]

I don't. It's pretty standard stuff, and you have to admit that there is a relatively large amount of piracy happening on the switch.

I've been trying to track this on some level, but I'd say their problems are about as large as Sony's with PS4 if not actually "not as bad" because of the way things developed.

Despite the lack of activity in the scene, the older PS4s are numerous and they have flooded third world markets thoroughly with "hacked PS4+100s of games" sales options. This has permeated a ton of markets I've been tracking, from China to SEA to Europe. You may miss some of the newer titles until new stuff is released but its already so many games for so little a price that it has blossomed. The stock is nearly infinite for the market this serves because of 90+million units.

Switch has had/is having stock issues on old units. The hacked units flooded said markets too, similar to PS4, but the supply is pinched on both ends of hackable units due to timing (PS4 was far more mature and numerous with old stock for 5.05). Old units are largely in the hands of active users (=not going to hack, too much investment) and new units are fixed. Now there's an inflection point because they've been running out of stock, and you can see some markets snapping back because they have no product to sell. (Which has led to funny situations where some shops have undermined their market by cashing in on hacked units and now having no product to sell.)

Ironically, PS4's options also on some level has suffocated the market for Switch hacking because the PS4 option is a lot more tantalizing to someone on a tight budget or poor, which is where this stuff really dominates as a general principle.

Sony's also been considerably more active than Nintendo in "clamping down". They've been suing resellers on public fronts the moment they pop up (recently on eBay), trying to crack down on ISO distributions, tracking torrents, and so on. Nintendo largely has taken a more passive approach such as this, which is really just a slap on the wrist compared to what they *could* do like take you to court like the ROM cases.

 

[Dichotomy754]

I've been trying to track this on some level, but I'd say their problems are about as large as Sony's with PS4 if not actually "not as bad" because of the way things developed.

Despite the lack of activity in the scene, the older PS4s are numerous and they have flooded third world markets thoroughly with "hacked PS4+100s of games" sales options. This has permeated a ton of markets I've been tracking, from China to SEA to Europe. You may miss some of the newer titles until new stuff is released but its already so many games for so little a price that it has blossomed. The stock is nearly infinite for the market this serves because of 90+million units.

Switch has had/is having stock issues on old units. The hacked units flooded said markets too, similar to PS4, but the supply is pinched on both ends of hackable units due to timing (PS4 was far more mature and numerous with old stock for 5.05). Old units are largely in the hands of active users (=not going to hack, too much investment) and new units are fixed. Now there's an inflection point because they've been running out of stock, and you can see some markets snapping back because they have no product to sell. (Which has led to funny situations where some shops have undermined their market by cashing in on hacked units and now having no product to sell.)

Ironically, PS4's options also on some level has suffocated the market for Switch hacking because the PS4 option is a lot more tantalizing to someone on a tight budget or poor, which is where this stuff really dominates as a general principle.

Sony's also been considerably more active than Nintendo in "clamping down". They've been suing resellers on public fronts the moment they pop up (recently on eBay), trying to crack down on ISO distributions, tracking torrents, and so on. Nintendo largely has taken a more passive approach such as this, which is really just a slap on the wrist compared to what they *could* do like take you to court like the ROM cases.

Wow, didn't realize PS4 hacking scene was so prolific. But then I guess it has been out for a fair bit longer. But either way, there's nothing new here to be afraid of, or to get particularly mad at Nintendo over. Maybe the OP should be updated to reflect this.

Also hearing about this market saturation leaves me feeling more lucky that my refurbished switch turned out to be vulnerable.

 

[baretbh]

even then are you 100% sure your safe?

with vpn yes.

 

[Subtle Demise]

Except for the fact that you cannot prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that an IP address is associated with a particular subscriber. It could be anyone in the household, it could be a neighbor that hacked the wi-fi, or even somebody in a parked car. Without a criminal forensic investigation there is no way to know for sure, which no government agency or law enforcement is going to waste their time with that. Most of their efforts go to shutting down deepweb drug vendors, even CP sites are lower priority.

 

[coppertj]

Called this was gonna happen. Always use a VPN like PIA or Nord.

 

[Girtana1]

I stopped reading at "Spawnwave" I knew right then you don't do any actual looking into things, you just listen to that retarded looking midget monkey, omega fucking lul

 

[Sheimi]

Never use torrents for anything.

 

[Techjunky90]

I stopped reading at "Spawnwave" I knew right then you don't do any actual looking into things, you just listen to that retarded looking midget monkey, omega fucking lul

Agreed! Career youtubers will say whatever they need to say to get views, 9 times out of 10 they do not bother to do research. All about those view$, not about those facts.

 

[Captain_N]

Agreed! Career youtubers will say whatever they need to say to get views, 9 times out of 10 they do not bother to do research. All about those view$, not about those facts.

Called it, Fake news.... OP will have Learn to download over a public wifi
I downloaded over 300 Gigs over starbucks wifi usinf Wii U Usb Loader Helper lol Had to archive them Wii U Games before they are gone...

 

[Ericthegreat]

Well don’t use public trackers or get a VPN. It’s the same story with movies.

So Ive been receiveing letters like these for roughly 11 years now, nothing has happened 9 years with twc/spectrum 2 with comcast, nothing has happened after 6 they make you digitally sign you wont do it again, then it restarts, you sign again, and they dont give a shit. Fuck vpns, its all a conspiracy for the profit of vpn providers, started with streaming sites warning "your not using a vpn" and people fell for it, and everyone agreed with me until a couple years ago, you get a letter you throw it in the trash or ignore the email.

AT&T(if theyer not bullshiting) and cox are the only standouts I know. and if your worried about an actual lawsuit, it hasnt happened in over 10 years (for leechers not distributers, and no I dont mean seeders, I mean the guy who put the files up). Seems the only real reason I have for someone buying one, is if theyer a kid, and theyer parents bitch about it.

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This is NOT news. Sorry but some lame ass youtuber is not a trust worthy place to get legit news.

Well actually its interesting I dont think I've ever received a letter for a game.

 

[aerios169]

Uhmm the point is if Nintendo is respecting your privacy . Is a kind of wird, everyone had download any rom at any time on this page.

 

[Glitchk0ud1001]

Nintendo doesn't have presence in mexico sooo i think im safe. i guess

 

[aerios169]

Nintendo doesn't have presence in mexico sooo i think im safe. i guess

WEll their custom service for client sucks hard on mexico I you have the reason

 

[Bladexdsl]

Well don’t use public trackers or get a VPN. It’s the same story with movies.

VPN bwa hahaha never needed or used one been pirating for years. it sux your isps don't give a shit what you do likes ours. now i'm off to USN to download whatever the fuck i want

 

[Techjunky90]

Has anyone here actually had an experience where they pirated something & legit had legal action taken against them?

 

[a9lh-1user]

@Techjunky90

 

[FAST6191]

Nintendo doesn't have presence in mexico sooo i think im safe. i guess

Mexico recognises various copyrights, which I presume includes Nintendo, and even without that I am sure Nintendo would do the token registration thing for their works if that somehow applied. To that end you are not say by those reasons. Being in Mexico you are probably still reasonably safe as the courts, ISPs and so forth have bigger fish to fry and problems to solve.

So Ive been receiveing letters like these for roughly 11 years now, nothing has happened 9 years with twc/spectrum 2 with comcast, nothing has happened after 6 they make you digitally sign you wont do it again, then it restarts, you sign again, and they dont give a shit. Fuck vpns, its all a conspiracy for the profit of vpn providers, started with streaming sites warning "your not using a vpn" and people fell for it, and everyone agreed with me until a couple years ago, you get a letter you throw it in the trash or ignore the email.

AT&T(if theyer not bullshiting) and cox are the only standouts I know. and if your worried about an actual lawsuit, it hasnt happened in over 10 years (for leechers not distributers, and no I dont mean seeders, I mean the guy who put the files up). Seems the only real reason I have for someone buying one, is if theyer a kid, and theyer parents bitch about it.

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Well actually its interesting I dont think I've ever received a letter for a game.

While I would agree VPNs are way over hyped, them mainly being places and companies which found themselves with the need to have very fat pipes but them not always being full deciding to try to fill up some of the "wasted" bandwidth* and get a bit for it, I can't dismiss them that easily, especially not for the prices many seem to be offering. They defend pretty well against most common attacks (the postal service monitoring the internet node might not care about my personal data going through to a website as much as my business plans so they can sabotage them but the dude harvesting stuff in the coffee shop cares more, and at the same time might prevent a nice dox one day when a website gets compromised, or if my bank continues to employ crack smokers in their security department) and while you might find filling in a do nothing form a minor speedbump for you I can see paying a token sum per year to dodge the lot, and possibly dodge problems with others in your life, schools, employers and such, to say nothing of those that do the whole packet inspection thing and slow down accordingly.

There used to be a popular phrase in these circles that ran "free, fast, secure. pick two", the implication being that torrents tended to go for the first two, and a properly chosen VPN changes that one a bit.

*classically you saw a similar thing where various places had to have thousands of phone lines run for wartime measures or whatever and then companies setting up there as there was an abundance of such lines, nobody then caring if they could not ring in to win a holiday if bombs were about to drop.

Has anyone here actually had an experience where they pirated something & legit had legal action taken against them?

Depends what you mean.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/02/nintendo-wins-1-5m-aussie-piracy-settlement/

That was a GBAtemp member and with actions taken on GBAtemp forming a key part of it.

That however was uploading/distribution (and, worse still, of a then unreleased game). I imagine you probably meant the simple downloading side of things, and while IP law does not care that much about the distinction as far as being a viable target or not it does seem to drop the willingness of companies to engage.
A few posts back I did mention some historical examples
https://torrentfreak.com/codemasters-set-lawyers-on-bittorrent-colin-mcrae-071129/
https://torrentfreak.com/youre-caught-downloading-dream-pinball-settle-now-or-go-broke/

That is actual legal action. I don't think anybody that called their bluff (aka ignored the letter) ended up in front of the beak and got slapped because of it but I don't know.

 

[a9lh-1user]

Yep in Europe you wont win with the strategy of a "honey-pot"
It is forbidden and any evidence they got with that can't be use´d in the court against you!

All of those discussion is interesting but not useful.
If they "catch" one there are hundreds and thousand of other people sharing those files "openly" or "secretly" ..... you have to find those spots and you are in the game

BTW it is your opinion how you secure yourself when you do things like that.
But a VPN is not the best choice IMAO