Hacking Question [Poll] What CFW are you currently using

[mowsie]

Ignoring the concerns about this poll that I previously posted about, many SX OS users made their purchases before there were free alternatives. Now that there are free alternatives, it's no longer worth the price for most people.

Speak for yourself, you're spouting drivel

Currently yes. HOWEVER, .NSP are just as good

For me and many others they are not as good, not even close

 

[Ashura66]

For me and many others they are not as good, not even close

You're allowed to be wrong . But in all seriousness, NSP are just as good as XCI, the difference between the two is very, VERY small. And don't say" oh but they are safer". Stay offline and both are equally as safe. But if you PREFER to use .XCI, that's another story completely

 

[mowsie]

You're allowed to be wrong . But in all seriousness, NSP are just as good as XCI, the difference between the two is very, VERY small. And don't say" oh but they are safer". Stay offline and both are equally as safe. But if you PREFER to use .XCI, that's another story completely

I PREFER xci (not saying it is better for every setup out there) because I can load 3 different SD cards with as many titles as I want, throw them in a carry case and take them with me, switching between different homebrew and backup setups at will. This is made even easier by the fact that with SX Pro it is effortless to switch between those SD setups and clear and clean Horizon so I can play Splatoon online via cart.

Surely this same functionality could be achieved with 2-3 more slightly annoying steps per action, NSP files, an external device and a homemade jumper.. But for my setup, an SX Pro with 3 32 gb micros (one for homebrew, one for my personal cart backups and one for games I'm trying out), xci is perfect.

Sure, every option is viable. But doesn't it seem strange that SX users don't shit on the other solutions, while the users of the other solutions CONSTANTLY berate any SX user, constantly swear we are all crying into our purses over our bad purchases, constantly claiming SX users "don't use" and "don't need" xci loading? I mean, this thread is fucking brutal. People are so full of it.

RajNX and ReiNX couldn't be easier to use, so we don't know what you're talking about.

People don't use SX OS primarily because there are free alternatives that are equally good. Not having to spend money is a pretty good reason not to use it.

The stolen code and the brick code are very real reasons not to use SX OS. However, these things don't matter to me personally.


I don't reckon anything, but again, I do bring up very real concerns. In other words, I don't accept that TX is influencing this BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Backtracking, accusations, speaking for others, discrediting users, insulting intelligence.. On a roll.

 

[Ashura66]

But doesn't it seem strange that SX users don't shit on the other solutions, while the users of the other solutions CONSTANTLY berate any SX user, constantly swear we are all crying into our purses over our bad purchases, constantly claiming SX users "don't use" and "don't need" xci loading? I mean, this thread is fucking brutal. People are so full of it.

Go back trough this thread and others that have the same argument, you'l see plenty of SX users doing the same thing(as in berating NSP users and claiming their setup is the only set up and that no other set up is viable, etc etc)

 

[Draxzelex]

Regardless of whether you prefer .XCI or .NSP, we have a perfectly working .XCi -> .NSP converter in the form of 4NXCI not to mention that that homebrew have already started being converted into .NSP format. We still lack a way to convert anything into .XCI format and until the community devises a way to load .XCI files, its possible this tool will not be made.

 

[Ashura66]

Regardless of whether you prefer .XCI or .NSP, we have a perfectly working .XCi -> .NSP converter in the form of 4NXCI not to mention that that homebrew have already started being converted into .NSP format. We still lack a way to convert anything into .XCI format and until the community devises a way to load .XCI files, its possible this tool will not be made.

And that works for EVERY game? I was under the impression that not every game worked

 

[Draxzelex]

And that works for EVERY game? I was under the impression that not every game worked

The only ones that did not work previously are .XCI dumps of higher cart revisions because they contained updates to make the game only work on higher firmwares. I'm not sure if that problem still persists but since you can convert the base cart revision of these games without issue, 4NXCI effectively works on all .XCI games.

 

[Lacius]

Speak for yourself, you're spouting drivel

I'm not wrong when I say people generally prefer free options over paid options. We also saw what happened to Gateway. People didn't mind installing CIA files if it meant the CFW was free.

For me and many others they are not as good, not even close

You're entitled to your preference, but it's hyperbolic to say NSP isn't even close to XCI. Ignoring the minor process of installing NSP files, they're functionally identical.

I PREFER xci (not saying it is better for every setup out there) because I can load 3 different SD cards with as many titles as I want, throw them in a carry case and take them with me, switching between different homebrew and backup setups at will. This is made even easier by the fact that with SX Pro it is effortless to switch between those SD setups and clear and clean Horizon so I can play Splatoon online via cart.

Surely this same functionality could be achieved with 2-3 more slightly annoying steps per action, NSP files, an external device and a homemade jumper.. But for my setup, an SX Pro with 3 32 gb micros (one for homebrew, one for my personal cart backups and one for games I'm trying out), xci is perfect.

Sure, every option is viable. But doesn't it seem strange that SX users don't shit on the other solutions, while the users of the other solutions CONSTANTLY berate any SX user, constantly swear we are all crying into our purses over our bad purchases, constantly claiming SX users "don't use" and "don't need" xci loading? I mean, this thread is fucking brutal. People are so full of it.

What you described can be achieved using a free alternative like RajNX or ReiNX. The only difference is the aforementioned process of installing NSP files, which isn't a problem for most people.

Backtracking, accusations, speaking for others, discrediting users, insulting intelligence.. On a roll.

I didn't do any of these things.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

So I just downloaded the newest SDfiles, booted up CFW and immediately missed having the option to play xci.
All that was different is tinfoil which I can use in sxos anyway if I want.

Also, none of these are cfw. They are Horizon with tools.

Sxos has the tools I want/need.

 

[Lacius]

So I just downloaded the newest SDfiles, booted up CFW and immediately missed having the option to play xci.
All that was different is tinfoil which I can use in sxos anyway if I want.

If you already own SX OS and have been using it, then you can continue to use it to play XCI files. For those who haven't purchased SX OS, there's no need when ReiNX and RajNX can play NSP-installed games. Aside from avoiding the brief installation process, there are no benefits of using XCI over NSP.

Sxos has the tools I want/need.

Minus the ability to load XCI backups, RajNX and ReiNX have all of the tools of SX OS and more.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

If you already own SX OS and have been using it, then you can continue to use it to play XCI files. For those who haven't purchased SX OS, there's no need when ReiNX and RajNX can play NSP-installed games.


Minus the ability to load XCI backups, RajNX and ReiNX have all of the tools of SX OS and more.

Now you got it, there ya go! You said it, they are all the same except for sxos which loads xci +1 ftw. So why use anything other than sxos, unless you just like to tinker with config files and extraction utilities and file managers, most people don't.

 

[Lacius]

So why use anything other than sxos

There are very good reasons to use something other than SX OS:

1. SX OS costs money.
2. There is no significant difference between SX OS and the free alternatives.

And that's ignoring the ethical concerns with SX OS.

unless you just like to tinker with config files and extraction utilities and file managers, most people don't.

ReiNX works out of the box with a setup easier than the setup of SX OS.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

There are very good reasons to use something other than SX OS:

1. SX OS costs money.
2. There is no significant difference between SX OS and the free alternatives.

And that's ignoring the ethical concerns with SX OS.


ReiNX works out of the box with a setup easier than the setup of SX OS.

ethics *snort* you're in the wrong place

Yea I'm not getting into a Windows vs Linux argument with you, paying for xci is worth it in my book since nobody else wants to enable it, so I can play the games that I want/way I want. Just like Windows. Until someone hacks sxos fully and I don't have to pay for it anymore.

Bloody Arrr!

 

[xIce101x]

Ignoring the concerns about this poll that I previously posted about, many SX OS users made their purchases before there were free alternatives. Now that there are free alternatives, it's no longer worth the price for most people.

I agree. If I didn’t buy SX OS at launch I wouldn’t buy it at this point. XCIs are nice because you can play online with them until you get banned and you can load multiple SD cards with games but that alone is not worth the price.

 

[Lacius]

and you can load multiple SD cards with games but that alone is not worth the price.

You can load multiple SD cards with different NSP-installed games using RajNX and ReiNX, too. That's not a difference.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

You can load multiple SD cards with different NSP-installed games using RajNX and ReiNX, too. That's not a difference.

Try moving them around and sorting them on different cards.

 

[xIce101x]

You can load multiple SD cards with different NSP-installed games using RajNX and ReiNX, too. That's not a difference.

It’s much more convenient to do that with xci files though.

 

[samsam91]

There are very good reasons to use something other than SX OS:

1. SX OS costs money.
2. There is no significant difference between SX OS and the free alternatives.

And that's ignoring the ethical concerns with SX OS.


ReiNX works out of the box with a setup easier than the setup of SX OS.

Ethical concerns? Lmao the irony mate. You use CFW to pirate games and you are having ethical concerns.... GTFO.

 

[Lacius]

Ethical concerns? Lmao the irony mate. You use CFW to pirate games and you are having ethical concerns.... GTFO.

My ethical concerns have more to do with obfuscated code and brick code, not stolen code. Don't assume you know what I'm referring to. I already said in a previous post that the stolen code doesn't matter to me personally.

In other words, some of the SX OS ethical concerns aren't hypocritical. I also said, "ignoring the ethical concerns." Don't be disingenuous.

 

[Echoing_Mediocrity]

My ethical concerns have more to do with obfuscated code and brick code, not stolen code. Don't assume you know what I'm referring to. I already said in a previous post that the stolen code doesn't matter to me personally.

In other words, some of the SX OS ethical concerns aren't hypocritical. I also said, "ignoring the ethical concerns." Don't be disingenuous.

I must admit, props for handling that in a highly civilized manner.