From the now closed "they are selling pirated Nintedo software" thread (which apparently they arent, because they arent selling an OS, OS is just their "marketing term" for a loader/tools license - and marketing to them is to talk to people in simple concepts)
- They will depend on you having installed the most recent firmware you want to use on your switch as OFW
- They will have you trip efuses doing that - although they say - that efuse checks will be patched out in CFWs somehow and that there is a potential downgrade path (although they don't specify anything)
- Once you've installed a "current" OFW, it will be "patched in memory and on the device as well" to generate a CFW.
- We dont know if they use emunand, but presumably they do not
- We don't know if their CFW does survive coldboot - but presumably it does (only need the dongle for install/backup and updates is touted) -- this is still unclear, because they could be selling on the presumption, that people keep their switches in standby all the time
- If they send out DRM serial numbers by email, they will have an online activation check (its going to be a fun first week...)
- They seem to be modifing nand to store tools/loaders
- They presumably are aware of online ban risks.
- Their only update path for firmware seems to be through Nintendo - be it online, or via games, which could turn out to be an issue.
Here are potential problem scenarios with their approach.
If you are supposed to update through Nintendo, and tools/loaders are stored on the nand. Nintendo can ban you, and also not allow you the update. Worst scenario (unknown likelyhood), you can update to the next firmware once, then Nintedo checks for their loader in the firmwareupdater. Next time you go online you get banned - and newer updates cant ever be applied - as long as their tools/loaders are on the system. This could also apply to updates that are on cartridges in the future, but please notice, that this is speculation.
If they have you install recent unmodified firmwares on your Switch, that do trip efuses, a one time nand backup can not be restored, if it is a prior version. They say, their CFWs (which they dont sell, but "create") will not check efuses, but no details on that are given. In any case their "downgrade path" - if something goes wrong, will exist in their DRMed CFW ecosystem only.
It is very possible, that if you "mistakingly update" to the "most recent firmware - that you'll render the TX solution useless for as long of a time, as TX takes to "be able to patch that firmware again". They seem to favor "on the fly" patches over emunand. If they cant patch out efuse checks successfully (future facing), an older CFW can not be booted, even if they do use emunand... This has to be seen in combination, with Nintendo racing them to make it hard for them to reverse engineer their firmwares - so the gaps between OFW updates, and CFW updates might be substantial.
TLDR; Online ban risk is high, other scenarios are uncertain, but they have some pretty glaring single points of failure in their update strategy - which could come to haunt you in the future.
All this information is sourced from people with unknown names, suddenly talking specifics, when provoked - none of that is officially released information, but its out there nevertheless.
The official information on how their "solution" works is slim to none. Which is an issue, if you are about to install DRMed software on your device (not on a "modchip", on your Switch) with an entirely uncertain update path.
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Please understand, that this is unconfirmed.
- They will depend on you having installed the most recent firmware you want to use on your switch as OFW
- They will have you trip efuses doing that - although they say - that efuse checks will be patched out in CFWs somehow and that there is a potential downgrade path (although they don't specify anything)
- Once you've installed a "current" OFW, it will be "patched in memory and on the device as well" to generate a CFW.
- We dont know if they use emunand, but presumably they do not
- We don't know if their CFW does survive coldboot - but presumably it does (only need the dongle for install/backup and updates is touted) -- this is still unclear, because they could be selling on the presumption, that people keep their switches in standby all the time
- If they send out DRM serial numbers by email, they will have an online activation check (its going to be a fun first week...)
- They seem to be modifing nand to store tools/loaders
- They presumably are aware of online ban risks.
- Their only update path for firmware seems to be through Nintendo - be it online, or via games, which could turn out to be an issue.
Here are potential problem scenarios with their approach.
If you are supposed to update through Nintendo, and tools/loaders are stored on the nand. Nintendo can ban you, and also not allow you the update. Worst scenario (unknown likelyhood), you can update to the next firmware once, then Nintedo checks for their loader in the firmwareupdater. Next time you go online you get banned - and newer updates cant ever be applied - as long as their tools/loaders are on the system. This could also apply to updates that are on cartridges in the future, but please notice, that this is speculation.
If they have you install recent unmodified firmwares on your Switch, that do trip efuses, a one time nand backup can not be restored, if it is a prior version. They say, their CFWs (which they dont sell, but "create") will not check efuses, but no details on that are given. In any case their "downgrade path" - if something goes wrong, will exist in their DRMed CFW ecosystem only.
It is very possible, that if you "mistakingly update" to the "most recent firmware - that you'll render the TX solution useless for as long of a time, as TX takes to "be able to patch that firmware again". They seem to favor "on the fly" patches over emunand. If they cant patch out efuse checks successfully (future facing), an older CFW can not be booted, even if they do use emunand... This has to be seen in combination, with Nintendo racing them to make it hard for them to reverse engineer their firmwares - so the gaps between OFW updates, and CFW updates might be substantial.
TLDR; Online ban risk is high, other scenarios are uncertain, but they have some pretty glaring single points of failure in their update strategy - which could come to haunt you in the future.
All this information is sourced from people with unknown names, suddenly talking specifics, when provoked - none of that is officially released information, but its out there nevertheless.
The official information on how their "solution" works is slim to none. Which is an issue, if you are about to install DRMed software on your device (not on a "modchip", on your Switch) with an entirely uncertain update path.
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Presumably yes - as some of those "unnofficial voices" said, that their dongle functionality will mirror the open sourced versions, and their DRM will only come in at the loader/CFW stages.
Please understand, that this is unconfirmed.
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