Net Neutrality: what it is, and why you should care

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UPDATE: It's been voted for repeal. The FCC took Net Neutrality to a vote, and it was 3-2, in favor of repeal. This doesn't mean overnight upheaval, but things will certainly change, for better or worse, in due time.
If you've been on the internet at all the past week, there's a high chance that you've heard of something called "Net Neutrality", and you've also likely heard that there might be huge changes to your usage of the internet entirely. This post serves as a quick information briefing on what Net Neutrality is, what could happen if it's repealed, and the current events going on regarding it, and just general visibility to let the community in general be informed.

What is this Net Neutrality thing?



The basic definition of network neutrality is simple: all internet traffic is considered and treated equally. It was established just a bit under three years ago, in February 2015. It prevented companies like Comcast Xfinity and AT&T U-verse from speeding up, or slowing down certain sites based upon content. If you remember, back in July 2017, mobile provider Verizon admitted to targeting Netflix traffic, and specifically throttling it, negatively affecting customers' use of Netflix. Going back to 2014, there were also issues with Comcast customers, and, that's right, Netflix users, as connections to Netflix were notoriously slow. Netflix then entered a legal deal with Comcast, in order to have Netflix connections be faster than they previously were. The 2014 incident was pre-net neutrality, and shows that before the law was enacted, certain sites like Netflix were indeed slowed, and had to specifically bargain with large telecommunication monopolies like Comcast to get fair speeds out to their customers.

In April 2017, the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), Ajit Pai, revealed that he had plans to repeal net neutrality. It's worth noting that Pai was once the Associate General Counsel of Verizon Communications, an incredibly high up position with an ISP, who we've stated before as having throttled websites in the past.

Pai's statements on the matter included saying such things as "[the government] would be able to stop micromanaging the internet" and that the FCC and internet service providers would simply have to be "transparent about their practices so that consumers can buy a service plan that's best for them". Shortly after, Comcast began vocally supporting these statements, claiming that government regulation of the internet has been harming innovation and investments of Comcast. David Cohen, the company's Chief Diversity Officer, said that "customers would be clearly informed on our practices [...] Comcast maintains that it does and will not block, throttle, or discriminate against lawful content".

Within the movement for repealing net neutrality, also comes with power being given to the Federal Trade Commission. The FTC would then have the ability to legally charge internet service providers that were not made clear to customers.

You may notice, that within any of the claims made by Pai or Comcast, that equal traffic was never made the focus, instead putting emphasis on making sure these monopolies must be clear and transparent about what they do, but never laying down any solid rules about what they need to be transparent about or why. And, of course, if the FTC were to go after AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner, or other assorted companies for not being transparent, these legal cases would find themselves taking years to make their way to court, allowing for them to have their way with their customers until a definitive legal ruling. Therein lies the first batch of unease and controversy with the repeal.

In short, net neutrality is a fairly new regulation, which allows for equal traffic between all sites while using the internet. The chairman of the FCC and former higher-up of Verizon wants to repeal it, however. This would allow less government interference with ISPs, but would also allow those ISPs to do what they wish, so long as they're "transparent".

Does repealing Net Neutrality have any benefits?


Spoiler alert: not really

From the inception of the internet, and up until 2015, Americans have gone without net neutrality. Ajit Pai claims that should we not have net neutrality anymore, more rural areas would be able to have more companies and providers, and it would allow for more competition and choice for the consumer. However, these smaller companies would also have to fight it out with established services, with years of experience and infrastructure refinements.

As a side note, I've spent thirty minutes researching a potential "pro" argument. I've not found many that seem reasonable. I've listed in the spoiler tag below arguments from other websites and blogs.

Green Garage Blog: While net neutrality allows for freedom of speech, the downside is that almost anything can be posted to the internet. This means that the cruelest or insensitive information imaginable can end up on the internet, and as a result, it can cause a lot of problems from people that otherwise wouldn’t be prone to being under the microscope of criticism. This means that people can post cruel, intimidating, or other harassing messages and often get away with it thanks to free speech legislation. So it can be a very toxic environment for a lot of people to put up with.

Vittana: Reduced income from internet uses limits infrastructure improvements.
There are certain businesses and high-use individuals who consume large amounts of bandwidth every month. If net neutrality was removed, these high-level consumers would be asked to pay more for what they consume. This added income could then be used to upgrade the infrastructure of each internet service provider, making it possible for advanced fiber networks to be installed in many communities.

AEI: But in many instances, fast lanes, zero-rating, and the like benefit customers. In separate research, both former FCC Chief Economist Michael Katz (with Ben Hermalin) and I (with Janice Hauge) showed that fast lanes benefit small content providers in their attempts to compete with established industry leaders. AEI scholar Roslyn Layton has shown that elderly and low-income consumers benefit from zero-rating services.

Basically, the only benefit would be if America's current economy wasn't dominated by monopolistic ISPs. Below is an interview with Ajit Pai, showing his perspective.


Scrapping these rules, Pai told Reason's Nick Gillespie, won't harm consumers or the public interest because there was no reason for them in the first place. The rationales were mere "phantoms that were conjured up by people who wanted the FCC for political reasons to overregulate the internet," Pai told Gillespie. "We were not living in a digital dystopia in the years leading up to 2015."

If left in place, however, the Title II rules could harm the commercial internet, which Pai described as "one of the most incredible free market innovations in history."

"Companies like Google and Facebook and Netflix became household names precisely because we didn't have the government micromanaging how the internet would operate," said Pai, who noted that the Clinton-era decision not to regulate the Internet like a phone utility or a broadcast network was one of the most important factors in the rise of our new economy.

Pai also pushed back against claims that he's a right-wing radical who's "fucking things up."

"[I ascribe to] the very radical, right-wing position that the Clinton administration basically got it right when it came to digital infrastructure."


What happens if/when this gets repealed, and what does this mean for you?



The worst part of this, is that there's no definitive answer of what WILL happen, only what CAN happen. What has people concerned, though, is the potential things that larger ISPs can do with this new power, should net neutrality be repealed. Internet service providers could slow access to specific sites, and speed up others, in theory, others specifically being sites who pay ISPs for faster access, and those partnered or in contracts with ISPs. Websites like Google, Amazon, Reddit, Etsy, Netflix, and many more have all broadcast their support of net neutrality, stating that without these rules in place thanks to net neutrality, internet providers would become gatekeepers to the internet, restricting what customers can see. Without definitive government restrictions, these companies could be free to split access to the internet into packages, like cable TV, indeed making true on the intention of lowering the cost of internet access, but also making it more difficult and expensive to see all of the internet, as you can right now.

Likely, what will happen, though everything is up in the air, is that certain ISPs will utilize what's called "fast lanes" and "zero rating". Fast lanes are sort of like what we talked about at the start, with Netflix and Comcast. Currently, these fast lanes and zero rating are used with mobile phone data. AT&T customers can watch DirecTV (owned by AT&T) via their mobile data, without it counting towards their monthly cap. These rules could be applied to home internet as well; if you're a Comcast user, and you want to watch Hulu (owned by NBC-Universal-Comcast), maybe your connection to Hulu will be lightning fast, thanks to these theoretical fast lanes, and they won't go towards your Comcast monthly 1 Terabyte home cap. But what if you want to watch Netflix? Either Netflix will have much lower picture quality, or take a longer time to connect to. And if Netflix pays a fee, or gets into a contract once again with Comcast, then that potentially means that Netflix's increased costs move down to the consumer, who also now has to pay more for a service as well.

What can we do?



The only thing left to do is let your voice be heard. Social media has exploded without people decrying the impending repeal of net neutrality, and the negatives that it would entail, to the point of where the majority of Reddit has been plastered with net neutrality posts.

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The FCC will take the repeal to a vote on December 14, 2017. It is highly predicted that the repeal will pass, and net neutrality will come to an end. Millions have taken to the site "battleforthenet" and "callmycongress" to contact their local representatives and congressmen in order to show that American citizens don't want net neutrality destroyed.

You can learn more at the links below. Hopefully this is helpful in describing what net neutrality is, and why it shouldn't be taken away.

:arrow:Techcrunch: These are the arguments against net neutrality and why they're wrong

:arrow: Extra Credits: What a closed internet means

:arrow:Phillip DeFranco: The Internet is under attack

:arrow:Save the internet: What you need to know


:arrow:Ars Technica: RIP net neutrality
 
You're acting like this bill is the word of god and not just some corporate douchenozzles trying to trick people into giving up their rights. Who gives a fuck what the bill says. I've said this several times: it's all a bunch of nice language masking the only real beneficiaries, near-monopolistic providers. There's no benefit to any individual in repealing Net Neutrality.
Okay you paranoid, pseudo-intellectual, you're literally arguing that the bill is actually just fake and is there to appease people's fears while letting ISPs get worse, which is the exact opposite. If the FCC clearly didn't give a shit, why did they make a bill?

"Who gives a fuck what the bill says?"

Uh, the people voting on it? The people who wrote it? The people trying to have it passed? You know, the people who matter an infinite amount more than you do or ever will in this debate that you keep yourself willingly ignorant on?

Like shit dude your precious Title II Order is meaningless by this logic. Sorry to break this to you but you have no argument at all.

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Yes, from Congress. No word on how much support it actually has, though. Pai is a Trump appointee and Congress is majority Republican by quite a bit.
but the bill is just political words and jargon, it's not REALLY important. After all, who cares about the bill, right?

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wat should i do
i want to do piracy ;O;
Get a VPN, or a proxy. ISPs can't really do anything about that shit.
 
no no no, i need piracy
There's a lot of sites I can see being left untouched -- either by being under the radar, or being legally gray -- such as those for roms, abandonware, and so on. There's no recorded history of ISPs blocking rom sites mind you, only torrents, which is what they really ever seem to care about. I'm sure groups like Skidrow and Reloaded will just take to uploading stuff on MEGA or something so even that should probably be fine too.

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Except the moment you change your name and service as a bait and switch, you get sued into oblivion by the FTC and FCC. Wrench in your plan there champ.
 
There's a lot of sites I can see being left untouched -- either by being under the radar, or being legally gray -- such as those for roms, abandonware, and so on. There's no recorded history of ISPs blocking rom sites mind you, only torrents, which is what they really ever seem to care about. I'm sure groups like Skidrow and Reloaded will just take to uploading stuff on MEGA or something so even that should probably be fine too.

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Except the moment you change your name and service as a bait and switch, you get sued into oblivion by the FTC and FCC. Wrench in your plan there champ.
oh shit i use torrent for huge games : (
 
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Why do I even bother reading the last page of a 36-page thread? The topic is polluted with people making fun of things they don't understand OR become frightened of something that isn't at stake. :(


Perhaps it's better to just quote myself on a reply to a blog post i made to showcase the ACTUAL stakes, but I'll go into details later:

Erm...let me stop you for a minute and point you towards Chary's article. I can see you've read it, but I don't think you've grasped the whole concept:

To take a snipplet:

It prevented companies like Comcast Xfinity and AT&T U-verse from speeding up, or slowing down certain sites based upon content.


It's that last part that is relevant. You see, the internet can basically boiled down to "a whole bunch of computers talking to one another". This talking is done by a protocol. A standard, so you will, of what the communication consists of, in addition to the content itself. The moment I press this "Post reply" button, for example, my computer will do some checks to make contact with gbatemp's servers. It will take this message, and put it in different packages. Each of these packages get sent out as if it were digital post cards, containing data like which computer to reach (gbatemp's server), which computer is mine (gbatemp's server will want to sent a "message sent" back once it has all the packages), the number of packages, the type of content (text on a forum of...vbascript? :unsure:), and of course the message itself.

I'm putting that "the type of content" between brackets because that's the part where net neutrality comes in. Between my PC and the server are a bunch of other PC's that transfer all these packages to one another until the receiver has them all. Those PC's inbetween (okay, they're more routers and switches and stuff, but I avoid technical stuff for now**) don't dissect the entire package, and usually don't even have all the packages to make something understandable of it*. They don't need to be either: like a postman, all they really need to know is the destination. However: even though they can't make out what the total message is, they can check deeper into the package and check what kind of content it is. what happened somewhat before the law on net neutrality was that some providers didcheck into that type of content, and gave it a higher or lower priority than other to be transferred packages. Because these inbetween-PC's process thousands upon thousands of packages, lowering the process priority is an effective way to slow down a type of communication.

So do you understand how your fear isn't really relevant here? gbatemp is a site on the world wide web. Nintendo can probably pay ISP's to slow down traffic to gbatemp, but they'd be absolutely insane to do so: not only would that slow down traffic to every other site on the world wide web as well. It would've been different if gbatemp uses a form of unique communication, but there are hundreds if not thousands of sites who would suffer equally.
In reality, nintendo would have has as much power without net neutrality as with...or the same as before the net became neutral in the first place.

*there's a good reason all the cyberspying happens on the receiving or the sending end: it's in all ways impossible to track anything inbetween
**and because I only know basics on this field.

hundreds of thousands of people are wrong and i am right
Yup. Spoken like a true owner of an ISP. Because in that case you'd be right: you will gain the freedom to tamper with whatever kind of metadata your clients use. Want to charge extra for youtube? It'll be legal. Want to give your own video service a better bandwith? Yes you can. You can even give facebook users the freedom to pony up extra cash to you if they want their platform just as available as it currently is. So what that the hundreds of thousands of people have a different opinion on freedom...there's just no freedom like the freedom to mess with your own provided services. ::tpi:


oh shit i use torrent for huge games : (
Torrents (and maybe even more globally: peer to peer networks) are a way to transport data. It's very possible that the high speed internet you thought you had (because advertisement said so) will quickly lower on THAT aspect of your internet service. It depends with what retarded bundle your provider will come up with (you can send mails for free, but if you want to use torrents...hmm...I'm afraid that'll be an extra option).


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Yeah...no. I'm gonna side with @MaverickWellington and say that you don't know what the actual proposal is about.

A more proper analogy would be in the lines of offering people free mail, but with the caveat that other data will come in "packs" or "bundles". What data will and won't be charged extra will be part of contracts in ever increasingly hard to read/understand lawyer-gibberish that people won't have a clue about put they sign nonetheless (it's easy in America: I've read that for the most parts, ISP's have barely any competition from other ISP's). They'll realise that they've been suckered into strangling contracts when you can start sending out bills where you "inform" them that they've used other kinds of data that wasn't free. And actually costly. :evil:
 
oh shit i use torrent for huge games : (
You need to consider torrents are used for legitimate purposes too, and unless an ISP can verify a torrent is full of illegal content -- by downloading it or observing it themselves -- they can't really reasonably throttle it without getting in trouble as they'd inevitably block legal ones. I think what this would lead to is torrents just being sneakier and smarmier -- instead of "Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 1" we'd have a torrent listed as, say, "Duty Calls IV: The First Modern Warbattle" or some shit. I'd find it hilarious personally but clever too.
 
You need to consider torrents are used for legitimate purposes too, and unless an ISP can verify a torrent is full of illegal content -- by downloading it or observing it themselves -- they can't really reasonably throttle it without getting in trouble as they'd inevitably block legal ones. I think what this would lead to is torrents just being sneakier and smarmier -- instead of "Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 1" we'd have a torrent listed as, say, "Duty Calls IV: The First Modern Warbattle" or some shit. I'd find it hilarious personally but clever too.
some games i got on torrent are like that, they name it with some random words XD
 
You need to consider torrents are used for legitimate purposes too, and unless an ISP can verify a torrent is full of illegal content -- by downloading it or observing it themselves -- they can't really reasonably throttle it without getting in trouble as they'd inevitably block legal ones. I think what this would lead to is torrents just being sneakier and smarmier -- instead of "Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 1" we'd have a torrent listed as, say, "Duty Calls IV: The First Modern Warbattle" or some shit. I'd find it hilarious personally but clever too.
That's a slippery slope, but I think ISP's will quickly just increase the cost (or lower speeds) for torrents, on the half-assumption that they're illegal anyway*. I'm not sure the group that uses torrents legally - I'm thinking linux developers - have much of a lobby group to prevent that.


*in Belgium, we have a tax on disk storage media that's supposed to cover for income that the music & movie industry loses due to piracy. In reality, it means that we pay sabam (erm...I think the American equivalent is RIAA), even if we buy a drive for a PC backup. Despite this, piracy is still illegal.
 
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Fine... I'll be more specific. What is one good thing about it being removed from Title 2?
That we have a hard, specific set of rules that no amount of legal jargon, mental gymnastics, or otherwise niggling lawsuits can make loopholes around. When the law says you can't throttle legal content, you can't throttle legal content. There's no if ands or butts. Doesn't matter if it's something competing with a service you own. You cannot throttle it if it is not illegal. Period.

I don't know about you but after the years of stupid shit we've endured at the hands of moronic ISPs I'm pretty hopeful that this proposal will be doing some good shit. I encourage you to read it instead of asking for summaries for it since all you're gonna get from anyone -- regardless of stance -- is a biased summary. https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-347927A1.pdf

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That's a slippery slope, but I think ISP's will quickly just increase the cost (or lower speeds) for torrents, on the half-assumption that they're illegal anyway*. I'm not sure the group that uses torrents legally - I'm thinking linux developers - have much of a lobby group to prevent that.


*in Belgium, we have a tax on disk storage media that's supposed to cover for income that the music & movie industry loses due to piracy. In reality, it means that we pay sabam (erm...I think the American equivalent is RIAA), even if we buy a drive for a PC backup. Despite this, piracy is still illegal.
I don't think it's a slippery slope to assume the people making illegal torrents would find sneaky ways to get around it. People do it on youtube. Whenever copyright trolls -- either for legitimate or illegitimate reasons -- file constant copyright strikes on a channel, people will just rename their shit to get around it in a way that's identifiable to humans who know about it and are looking for it specifically, but are not noticeable by machines and their algorithms. Shit, I'd do it myself in such a position.

This isn't even considering the fact that there's numerous VPNs out there which allow P2P file transfers, so I'd imagine should ISPs start being uppity little fuckers, people will just go to those. The irony in paying someone something to let them pirate stuff is hilarious though.
 
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today is our day of reckoning (unless my clock is off)
idk if that means whay i think it means cuz im stupid but it sounds cool :P
anyways
if net neutrality dies then Megimin dies with it (Megumin doesn't cuz I didn't make her)
Megimin was only made because tge internet is free
and I was extremely bored
if tge internet was never free tgen on that day I was bored I would not of stumbled across the random shit that gave me the idea to draw her
instead I would've just sat in my room bored all day
so Megimin will dissapear with net neutrality if it dies
also one of my friends who's suicidal said he's gonna shoot himself if net neutrality dies
I've had to talk him out of suicide a few times but his whole life is the internet now
I don't think I'll be able to talk him out if net neutrality dies
 
today is our day of reckoning (unless my clock is off)
idk if that means whay i think it means cuz im stupid but it sounds cool :P
anyways
if net neutrality dies then Megimin dies with it (Megumin doesn't cuz I didn't make her)
Megimin was only made because tge internet is free
and I was extremely bored
if tge internet was never free tgen on that day I was bored I would not of stumbled across the random shit that gave me the idea to draw her
instead I would've just sat in my room bored all day
so Megimin will dissapear with net neutrality if it dies
also one of my friends who's suicidal said he's gonna shoot himself if net neutrality dies
I've had to talk him out of suicide a few times but his whole life is the internet now
I don't think I'll be able to talk him out if net neutrality dies
Not only is net neutrality not dying but you're shoving the fears that came with SOPA/PIPA/TPP (no not konami one, the bill) into this proposal. You're not going to lose contact with your friends, content you create is not going to disappear, and your friend is giving into fearmongering. Send him this image (https://i.imgur.com/SO3HJbG.png) and tell him there's nothing to fear.

Also I highly doubt he'd actually kill himself over something like this. It takes a lot of guts to actually end your own life. I sincerely doubt he's serious.
 
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