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Timeline wise BOTW is when the hero dies. This can be seen on the hat from Zelda. (yellow band)
Here is a video to see some sort of proof:


game theory is a prime example of how to not make a balanced assessment :P. you shouldn't take it too seriously as they never take into account counter evidence, only evidence that supports their guess.

That being said, the fallen timeline makes the most sense. It would have to take place a looooong time after, though. Later than the original game, even.
 
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Honestly my headcanon is that there was a point hundreds of years after Zelda I where Hyrule reached a point of technological advancement that it could be considered a "modern" society (skyscrapers, vehicles, stuff like that), but between the "10,000 years ago" portion of BOTW and the in-game events, Hyrule fell again
 

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I'm not sure about you, but my game was 30fps for more than ~90% of the time. That's pretty stable to me. And small drops weren't noticeable.
And then there's Framerate Forest lol
This is one of those frame rate drops that people are talking about. Also spoiler, Xenoblade chronicles 2 also doesn't run at stable 30FPS "IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE GAME" (Felt i needed to be a bit clear of what I mean this time)

FUN FACT: both of these games had monolith soft involved in the production. :P
 
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That being said, the fallen timeline makes the most sense. It would have to take place a looooong time after, though. Later than the original game, even.
Not to say it couldn't be the Fallen Hero Timeline, but why does it make the most sense? Personally, I can't think of anything about Breath of the Wild that suggests it takes place in the Fallen Hero Timeline.
 

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Not to say it couldn't be the Fallen Hero Timeline, but why does it make the most sense? Personally, I can't think of anything about Breath of the Wild that suggests it takes place in the Fallen Hero Timeline.
The fact that there are a lot of visual references to art from LttP and Zelda I, as well as the implication that the universe it takes place in has been ravaged by Ganon rather significantly (although it could be argued that with the amount of time it would have to take place after any game before it, frequency of Ganon showing up in the current timeline could effectively be ignored)
 

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The fact that there are a lot of visual references to art from LttP and Zelda I
There are a lot of visual references to games from other timelines, too.

as well as the implication that the universe it takes place in has been ravaged by Ganon rather significantly (although it could be argued that with the amount of time it would have to take place after any game before it, frequency of Ganon showing up in the current timeline could effectively be ignored)
The attacks by Calamity Ganon are irrelevant to the timeline placement, since those attacks occurred after whichever game Breath of the Wild succeeds.

These two points are why I don't think it's the Fallen Hero Timeline: There doesn't seem to be anything about the game that suggests it, unlikely some of the arguments for the Child Timeline and the Adult Timeline.
 

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From where I stand, and I havent finished the game yet (ik... dont please), but in the child timeline, ganondorf is killed in Twilight Princess, in the adult timeline, hes killed in Wind Waker
but in the fallen hero timeline, im very not sure, I see him getting resurected, unsealed, etc, over and over again, but ALWAYS as Ganon, never as Ganondorf.
As I've seen in walkthrough, we only see Ganon here, not his human form Ganondorf

So honnestly, I have no idea...
but Fallen Hero Timeline seems to fit...
also, since when does Ganondorf is a machine
 

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From where I stand, and I havent finished the game yet (ik... dont please), but in the child timeline, ganondorf is killed in Twilight Princess, in the adult timeline, hes killed in Wind Waker
but in the fallen hero timeline, im very not sure, I see him getting resurected, unsealed, etc, over and over again, but ALWAYS as Ganon, never as Ganondorf.
As I've seen in walkthrough, we only see Ganon here, not his human form Ganondorf

So honnestly, I have no idea...
but Fallen Hero Timeline seems to fit...
also, since when does Ganondorf is a machine
Ganondorf has been killed in all three timelines, and Ganon has existed in all three timelines. In addition, Calamity Ganon appears to have tried to regenerate a partially humanoid/Ganondorf form before being prematurely interrupted by Link in Breath of the Wild.

Calamity Ganon is the present embodiment of the curse Demise put on Link and Zelda at the end of Skyward Sword, and since we don't know CG's actual origins aside from that, it's not evidence of any timeline placement.

However, there are other things about CG that point to a Child Timeline placement. The quadruped Dark Beast Ganon has only existed in two games: Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild. In addition, Hyrule Historia suggests that the Ganon in the Fallen Hero Timeline is a mindless monster with no trace of Ganondorf remaining as a result of certain events in the Fallen Hero Timeline, but CG has been shown to exhibit cunning, planning, and he attempted to regenerate a humanoid form.
 
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Ganondorf has been killed in all three timelines, and Ganon has existed in all three timelines. In addition, Calamity Ganon appears to have tried to regenerate a partially humanoid/Ganondorf form before being prematurely interrupted by Link in Breath of the Wild.

Calamity Ganon is the present embodiment of the curse Demise put on Link and Zelda at the end of Skyward Sword, and since we don't know CG's actual origins aside from that, it's not evidence of any timeline placement.

However, there are other things about CG that point to a Child Timeline placement. The quadruped Dark Beast Ganon has only existed in two games: Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild. In addition, Hyrule Historia suggests that the Ganon in the Fallen Hero Timeline is a mindless monster with no trace of Ganondorf remaining as a result of certain events in the Fallen Hero Timeline, but CG has been shown to exhibit cunning, planning, and he attempted to regenerate a humanoid form.
Also the humanoid form he/it attempted to hold was (perhaps subconscously?) HEAVILY influenced by Ganondorf's TP style

I'm thinking you're probably right about the game taking place in the child timeline
 

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Also the humanoid form he/it attempted to hold was (perhaps subconscously?) HEAVILY influenced by Ganondorf's TP style

I'm thinking you're probably right about the game taking place in the child timeline
We know that a lot of the Hyrule Historia timeline was formed retroactively once they had a general idea of what they wanted it to look like. Four Swords Adventures seems to have an odd placement in the Child Timeline, but things like the presence of the Gorons at Death Mountain and the Zora at Zora's Domain are why it had to go there retroactively. For similar reasons, Breath of the Wild is likely to be retroactively assigned to the Child Timeline.
 
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We know that a lot of the Hyrule Historia timeline was formed retroactively once they had a general idea of what they wanted it to look like. Four Swords Adventures seems to have an odd placement in the Child Timeline, but things like the presence of the Gorons at Death Mountain and the Zora at Zora's Domain are why it had to go there retroactively. For similar reasons, Breath of the Wild is likely to be retroactively assigned to the Child Timeline.
Yeah. Even Aonuma doesn't know where it fits in the timeline yet, so we're just gonna have to be happy with whatever they decide in 5 years I guess lol
 

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Since when did having a different opinion constitute as pushing that view on others? He said it was a 7, someone else "corrected" him saying it was a 9.7. He explained why he believed it to be a 7 and that's pushing his views on you?
he felt the need to come in and say "whats the point of knowing the truth about a bad game", it seems a little unnecessary for him to go out of his way like that

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Not to say it couldn't be the Fallen Hero Timeline, but why does it make the most sense? Personally, I can't think of anything about Breath of the Wild that suggests it takes place in the Fallen Hero Timeline.
warning, this is spoiler stuff for one of the lost memories
In the lost memories where Zelda is knighting Link, she mentions the hero of twilight, so there is a good sign there.
 
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he felt the need to come in and say "whats the point of knowing the truth about a bad game", it seems a little unnecessary for him to go out of his way like that
Were that the quoted post, I would agree. but the post that drew the complaint was the rebuttal to the one telling him his opinion of the game was wrong.
 

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Were that the quoted post, I would agree. but the post that drew the complaint was the rebuttal to the one telling him his opinion of the game was wrong.
well, tbh though, if a person doesn't like a game, that isn't inherently bad, not every game fits everyone's interests,
 

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the timeline
THE FREACKING TIMELINE
is it a reboot?
a new timeline?
one of exisitng timeline?
where does BOTW stands in the timeline chart?

It is already been answered by me with the google link that I sent somewhere in the thread before. Google it and you will find the answer. Again, Nintendo of Japan team said that they aren't sure about the timeline yet. And it was news on August 2017, I think. Google it.
 

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It is already been answered by me with the google link that I sent somewhere in the thread before. Google it and you will find the answer. Again, Nintendo of Japan team said that they aren't sure about the timeline yet. And it was news on August 2017, I think. Google it.
when nintendo of japan isn't sure about the timeline of there own game :wtf:
 

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People still debating this and we still have a final DLC to play through that could shed more light on this topic. Still no word from Nintendo on when that will be still, so frustrating!

I personally think fallen timeline, everything else mentioned in the map is reference to those characters lives in the fallen timeline, and koroks are still just an evolved version of kokiri. Zora and Ruto in the same world is still kind of a mystery though. A lot can happen in 10,000 years, and who knows how many other years between the other games.
 

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