Gaming Rogue Galaxy Undub DVD9

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Hi, I found an undub of Rogue Galaxy that was changed into a DVD5 (Single Layer) but has the end credits removed. I have been looking for a DVD9 (Dual Layer) undub iso but no luck so far. If I had the knowledge I would rebuild it as a DVD9 iso myself. It is a long shot but does anyone have instructions to undub a DVD9 copy?
 
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sorry, you can't ask for game ISO here.
I edited your post to prevent deleting your thread. you might not want to do it yourself, but at least having instructions could benefit other users.

I didn't know the DVD5 had the end credit removed, I thought they re-coded all the videos to take less size. That's the version I have, but haven't played it yet.
I don't remember if there were a DVD9 undub of that game.

If it's only the end credit you want to watch, you could probably find it on youtube.
if you really want a full DVD9 undub, you'll have to merge it yourself, or ask on another website to get a full ready to burn undub copy.
 
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sorry, you can't ask for game ISO here.
I edited your post to prevent deleting your thread. you might not want to do it yourself, but at least having instructions could benefit other users.

I didn't know the DVD5 had the end credit removed, I thought they re-coded all the videos to take less size. That's the version I have, but haven't played it yet.
I don't remember if there were a DVD9 undub of that game.

If it's only the end credit you want to watch, you could probably find it on youtube.
if you really want a full DVD9 undub, you'll have to merge it yourself, or ask on another website to get a full ready to burn undub copy.

Thanks for editing my post instead of deleting it. They did compress the videos but apparently it still would not fit on a single layer so they had to remove the end credits. Even though I can watch the end credits on youtube I still want a complete uncompressed DVD9 undub. I read there were two rip kits. One to compress the game to one DVD5 iso and the other to make the game into two DVD5 isos. But that is for the dubbed version and I can only find the kit to compress it to one DVD5. I would not mind doing it myself but to uncompress the undub DVD5 iso back to a DVD9 iso exceeds my knowledge. I can build a DVD9 iso no problem though with the files ready to go.
 

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you can't really convert and uncompress a DVD5 to DVD9, the data is not compressed but re-coded in bad quality and with some deleted files (end credit apparently, and probably some unuseful videos like logo at game launch).
you need the original DVD9 JP and US to make a proper DVD9 undub.

I guess that will be hard to find someone with the knowledge to do it, that game is old and the capable and interested users already did the work on it. they are probably not interested in doing it again.
Maybe new users might get an interest in doing it, but PS2 is not a current gen, so there's not a lot of users willing to do it here. maybe you'll get more chance on a specialized hacking/translating forum, like romhacking.net (I don't know if they do undub too).
but, maybe someone on gbatemp is ready to take on the challenge? finding both version is maybe the hardest, then you'll have to open each ISO and move files, rebuild the ISO and try.

Too bad the PSN version doesn't have language choice...
 
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you can't really convert and uncompress a DVD5 to DVD9, the data is not compressed but re-coded in bad quality and with some deleted files (end credit apparently, and probably some unuseful videos like logo at game launch).
you need the original DVD9 JP and US to make a proper DVD9 undub.

I guess that will be hard to find someone with the knowledge to do it, that game is old and the capable and interested users already did the work on it. they are probably not interested in doing it again.
Maybe new users might get an interest in doing it, but PS2 is not a current gen, so there's not a lot of users willing to do it here. maybe you'll get more chance on a specialized hacking/translating forum, like romhacking.net (I don't know if they do undub too).
but, maybe someone on gbatemp is ready to take on the challenge? finding both version is maybe the hardest, then you'll have to open each ISO and move files, rebuild the ISO and try.

Too bad the PSN version doesn't have language choice...
I see... well I will look into it because I have instructions provided by the person who did the undub for Xenosaga Episode I. So with that information, even though the game is different, I may be able to figure it out.
 

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I have run into a snag. The movie files on the Rogue Galaxy iso are .mvi format. I don't know how to extract the audio from them or perhaps I would need to convert them. Does anyone know?
 

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why would you want to extract the audio ?
is it required for the undub?

usually, you only need to overwrite the movie completely.
unless the movie has hardcoded english subtitle, in that case demuxing/remuxing the audio is probably the right method.


A lot of video format on console are not standard computer format.
sometime there are movie readers (codec for windows, in .ax format), but I rarely seen movie demuxers for game console's video.
 
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why would you want to extract the audio ?
is it required for the undub?

usually, you only need to overwrite the movie completely.
unless the movie has hardcoded english subtitle, in that case demuxing/remuxing the audio is probably the right method.


A lot of video format on console are not standard computer format.
sometime there are movie readers (codec for windows, in .ax format), but I rarely seen movie demuxers for game console's video.
I was thinking the subtitles were integrated into the movie files. That is good to know that I may be able to just replace the movie files with the Japanese ones. I will try that tonight. Thanks Cyan!

P.S. If the subtitles are hardcoded I have no idea how to demux an mvi file.
 

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you'll have to open the file (hex editor for example) and see if there is a common header with other video format (mpeg, etc.)
You could also try putting the video into a video analyzer, such as Gspot or avdump.
I can't help you more than that, sorry.
 

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I just wanted to provide an update. I found some information on another forum from a post in 2007 that described extracting the .dat files. After doing more internet searching I found the program xpert 2.0 but it did not have the plugin necessary to extract Rogue Galaxy. I did some more searching and luckily I found the plugin. So now I can extract the .dat files which contain audio data and I was doing that last night. It takes a while to extract them but now I will be able to do the undub no problem. I am not sure if I need to copy the separate Japanese movie files over too but at least now I can build an undub iso and see.
 
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I just wanted to provide an update. I found some information on another forum from a post in 2007 that described extracting the .dat files. After doing more internet searching I found the program xpert 2.0 but it did not have the plugin necessary to extract Rogue Galaxy. I did some more searching and luckily I found the plugin. So now I can extract the .dat files which contain audio data and I was doing that last night. It takes a while to extract them but now I will be able to do the undub no problem. I am not sure if I need to copy the separate Japanese movie files over too but at least now I can build an undub iso and see.

Check your pm. I want to ask you something so I can help you with that.
 
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It was very time consuming but I completed it. The DVD5 Undub was surprisingly not compressed so I was able to use it to help me in building the DVD9 Undub.
 
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you mean you made a working DVD9 undub?
you tried it on the console/emulator? all is fine (video, audio, subtitles, cutscenes, etc.)

If all is working, maybe you could provide the steps and tools to do it, even if it's not a recent game it could help someone else one day.
 

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you mean you made a working DVD9 undub?
you tried it on the console/emulator? all is fine (video, audio, subtitles, cutscenes, etc.)

If all is working, maybe you could provide the steps and tools to do it, even if it's not a recent game it could help someone else one day.
Yes, I made a working DVD9 Undub and I tested it on my CFW PS3. I only checked out the first minute or so after starting a new game but since it is based off the DVD5 Undub all should be fine. I could potentially provide a simplified overview of the tools and steps but that will be in another post since I don't have time at the moment.
 
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Okay so I will do my best to provide instructions to how to do it in this post but let me say you need time and patience. Also I had prior experience rebuilding a PS2 DVD9 iso.

This was done using a USA iso so I am not sure if it is different for a Europe iso.

What you will need:

1. Apache
2. CDVD Generator 1.5 or 2.0
3. Xpert 2.0
4. HxD Hex Editor or similar program
5. Rogue Galaxy v1.1 Plugin for Xpert
6. Rogue Galaxy USA DVD9 iso
7. Rogue Galaxy Director's Cut Japan DVD9 iso
8. Rogue Galaxy Undub DVD5 iso

You could potentially do without the undub DVD5 iso or the Japan iso but you need at least one of them and I would highly recommend it to be the undub DVD5 iso. Edit: It is actually best to have both the Japan iso and undub DVD5 iso because the undub DVD5 iso has the end credits removed which is a .MVI file and you can only get that from the Japan iso.

Steps:

1. Extract all the files from the isos into separate folders using Apache.
2. Open Xpert 2.0. Select the Rogue Galaxy v1.1 plugin. Select the matching .DAT & .HD6 from the iso files in Xpert and extract the LBA. After that is done you have to close Xpert and reopen it. Then select the plugin and files again. Then extract the files. You have to extract all the .DAT files in this manner but I would recommend you do them one at a time. Do this for the matching .DAT files in the iso.
3. After extracting the DATA0_0.DAT files for each iso then go into the extracted files and you will see a snd2 folder. You have to copy this folder with all the files inside from the extracted undub DVD5 or Japan files and overwrite the corresponding folder in the USA iso.
4. After that is done open Xpert again. Select the DATA0_0.DAT & DATA0_0.HD6 files for the USA iso and select rebuild. It will rebuild the .DAT file and save it as I believe NEW-DATA0_0.DAT. Then close Xpert and reopen it. Then select the NEW-DATA0_0.DAT file and the DATA0_0.HD6 file for the USA iso again. Select rebuild LBA. After that you will have a NEW-DATA0_0.DAT file and a NEW-DATA0_0.HD6 file. You now delete the DATA0_0.DAT & DATA_0_0.HD6 files and rename the new files as DATA0_0.DAT & DATA0_0.HD6. You can now delete the extracted DATA0_0 files for all the isos.
5. Now extract the DATA0_1.DAT files using Xpert for the different isos. Go into the extracted files and you will see two folders. These two folders both contain sound files but there is a wav folder contained within the eng folder that has a different number of files than the corresponding folder (named jap I believe) in the Japan files. But if you have the undub DVD5 iso it will have the correct number of files within it so you can just copy it over to replace the folder from the USA iso. The jap folder from the Japan iso has some files the eng folder from the USA iso does not have and vice versa. So basically just replace all the files from the USA iso with the ones from undub DVD5 iso.
6. Rebuild DATA0_1.DAT and Rebuild LBA using Xpert for the USA iso like you did before.
7. The files and folders in DATA1_0.DAT and DATA1_1.DAT are almost identical to the corresponding DATA0_0.DAT and DATA0_1.DAT files so extract them, replace the sound files with the ones from the undub DVD5 iso, and rebuild them like you did for the previous .DAT files.
8. Now copy the .MVI files from the MOVIE folder of the Japan iso or undub DVD5 iso and replace the corresponding .MVI files in the USA iso. Since the end credits were removed from the undub DVD5 iso the only place you can get that .MVI file from is the Japan iso.
9. Open CDVD Generator. Now select 'Create New Project' and the select the 'Dual Layer' option. If you are using 2.0 be sure to turn off 'Add Dummy Data' under options (I don't know if it matters but it does lower the size of the iso so that is a good thing). The 'Add Dummy Data' option will turn itself back on if you close and reopen CDVD Generator so keep that in mind. Now add the extracted files and folders from the USA iso by clicking and dragging them to CDVD Generator. In my experience the order does not matter but I usually do the folders last and the files in alphabetical order. You have to do this for both layers. Now select volume on layer 0 and under 'Disc Name' type 'SCUS97490'. Under 'Producer Name' type 'PLAYSTATION'. Under 'Copyright Holder' type 'SCEI'. Now save it and name it whatever you like. Select 'Rec' for record and another program will open after some error boxes. Select 'Export Image' and it will create image files split into four files *.000, *.001, *.002, *.003. You have to combine them using copy /b in command prompt, or AF7 Merge, or HJSplit should work too but I have not tried it personally. Do this for both layers.
10. Open HxD and open the layer 1 (Second Layer) iso file you have just created. You have to delete the header off the second layer iso before combining it with layer 0. So under edit select 'Select Block' and now select 'dec'. Now select 'Length' and type '32768' for the length. Now click 'OK'. Now under edit select 'Delete'. It will warn you and after accepting it will delete the header. Now save it and exit.
11. I have found rebuilt PS2 DVD9 isos will not work on my CFW PS3 unless I replace the header on the first layer with the one from the original iso. So open HxD and the original USA iso and use select block like you did before to select the 32768 dec header. Now copy it. Open the layer 0 iso (First Layer) and use select block to select the 32768 dec header again and then select 'Paste Write' under edit. After that is done save it and exit.
12. Combine the two layers using copy /b, or AF7 Merge, or HJSplit.
13. Congratulations, if you indeed did it. It is ready to use now.
 
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Yes, I made a working DVD9 Undub and I tested it on my CFW PS3. I only checked out the first minute or so after starting a new game but since it is based off the DVD5 Undub all should be fine. I could potentially provide a simplified overview of the tools and steps but that will be in another post since I don't have time at the moment.

hello Zeonis , thanks for your great work with the UNDUB version, could you please upload it to mega or google drive?
 

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Hey Zeonis, Thanks Alot!

Step by step, same as before.

Notes:
-check layerbreak (LOCK SECTOR1 from getmd5)
-To get the same layerbreak some games need the "add dummy data" enable.
-copy /b 000.000 + 000.001 test.iso
-copy /b 000.iso + 001.iso test.iso
-if you use file/export iml, use ultraiso iml to iso option. (same iso md5 as iml iso from rec option)
-cdvdgen1.50 has no file order "system.cnf" error like 2.00.
-hex edit (32768) layer1 is mandatory
-hex edit (32768) layer0 set Playstation info
-no hex edit (32768) layer0 set cdvdgen info
-check md5 with getmd5 by Chook

Some tools: HxD, apache3.1.0, imltoiso from ultraiso (latest), cdvdgen1.50 or 2.00, getmd5.
 
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Hey Zeonis, Thanks Alot!

Step by step, same as before.

Notes:
-check layerbreak (LOCK SECTOR1 from getmd5)
-To get the same layerbreak some games need the "add dummy data" enable.
-copy /b 000.000 + 000.001 test.iso
-copy /b 000.iso + 001.iso test.iso
-if you use file/export iml, use ultraiso iml to iso option. (same iso md5 as iml iso from rec option)
-cdvdgen1.50 has no file order "system.cnf" error like 2.00.
-hex edit (32768) layer1 is mandatory
-hex edit (32768) layer0 set Playstation info
-no hex edit (32768) layer0 set cdvdgen info
-check md5 with getmd5 by Chook

Some tools: HxD, apache3.1.0, imltoiso from ultraiso (latest), cdvdgen1.50 or 2.00, getmd5.
Hello sir.
How can I contact you for some data exchange of certain file that might be the subject of this topic (or not;);)).
Please reply ASAP.
This is matter of national security.
 
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