Hardware Switch costs roughly $257 to manufacture

[DrkBeam]

Not the same thing.

Why?, a "home" console you can take on the go, it makes sense to create a super portable switch

 

[Harsky]

I predict that they'll release a cheaper micro console with the guts of the Switch and just bundle the pro controller with it.

 

[Kioku]

Why?, a "home" console you can take on the go, it makes sense to create a super portable switch

I'm talking about removing the screen.. IE the portability..

 

[DrkBeam]

I'm talking about removing the screen.. IE the portability..

The switch have voez which is only portable mode, it would be like the new3ds but backwards if they create an only docked mode console, besides the vita tv didn't go well on sales, because is Nintendo I think is possible but unlikely, probably they are going to release a switch xl and a new switch

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The switch have voez which is only portable mode, it would be like the new3ds but backwards if they create an only docked mode console, besides the vita tv didn't go well on sales, because is Nintendo I think is possible but unlikely, probably they are going to release a switch xl and a new switch

Could you rephrase that sentence?

 

[KingVamp]

It wouldn't work because of the compatibility on the base system on handheld mode, it would make sense to use a better chip like the tegra "x2", or use a better manufacturing process imo

They could have a cheaper and weaker while having compatibility.

You mean 3D? Which isn't used by a good number of people? Not the same thing.

3d was used by a good number of people too. It is the same thing. Some people plan to use the Switch as either a portable or home console only.

Exactly like the 2DS. If the 2DS came out at the same time as the 3DS it would've cannibalized 3DS sales. Same with a Switch TV. I think it's very easy for Nintendo to stick the X1 inside a bare-bones vented console and throw in a single Pro controller, to give us a console they can sell for $150-$200 USD. But it would be suicide to launch it so soon after the portable.

Never said when it would release, but the 2ds release around two years after the 3DS. I feel like that price would be for a portable only version.

The only way I see them doing a Switch XL version, is to increase the screen, but not the console. Don't see them making the console any bigger than it is.

 

[Kioku]

They could have a cheaper and weaker while having compatibility.


3d was used by a good number of people too. It is the same thing. Some people plan to use the Switch as either a portable or home console only.


Never said when it would release, but the 2ds release around two years after the 3DS. I feel like that price would be for a portable only version.

The only way I see them doing a Switch XL version, is to increase the screen, but not the console. Don't see them making the console any bigger than it is.

Regardless, 3D is a gimmick. Always has been. What the Switch offers is something else. To plan on stripping that away just doesn't fit.

 

[DrkBeam]

Could you rephrase that sentence?

Sorry my English isn't too good, in think is very unlikely Nintendo could release a home only switch in the future, a hardware revision with better specs I think is very possible

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Regardless, 3D is a gimmick. Always has been. What the Switch offers is something else. To plan on stripping that away just doesn't fit.

I'd argue that offering a variety of options at a lower price might make something that a consumer would have to think about an impulse buy, especially if they're only planning on using it at home or on the go, and not both

 

[Kioku]

I'd argue that offering a variety of options at a lower price might make something that a consumer would have to think about an impulse buy, especially if they're only planning on using it at home or on the go, and not both

I guess time will tell. If the software is there, making a home console variant actually may make sense.. As long as they don't alienate those who want the portable options.. By making it more powerful.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I guess time will tell. If the software is there, making a home console variant actually may make sense.. As long as they don't alienate those who want the portable options.. By making it more powerful.

I agree. It could even be the same price as the current product if they could advertize "NOW WITH THE TIGRA X2, CONSISTENTLY HITS 1080p 60FPS!!!"

 

[DrkBeam]

They could have a cheaper and weaker while having compatibility.

How? I haven't seen a console revision which is weaker than its predecessor

 

[Xzi]

Nvidia may be selling the Shield at cost to avoid a writedown. The Shield never took off, so Nvidia might be sitting on excess stock and have yet to make back what they paid developing and manufacturing them.

They just revealed the new Shield TV recently, so they slightly changed the shape and a few other minor things and are re-using the same SoC in that and in Switch.

 

[s157]

This is possible for minor revisions, but I wouldn't expect anything major for 3-4 years. The hardware is as powerful as it gets for this form factor right now.

A minor revision is all I'd want. Something like the foam pre-installed in the joy-con, smaller/bigger model, better screen (hoping they'd use something along the lines of gorilla glass), less flimsy dock, etc.

 

[smf]

besides the vita tv didn't go well on sales

Vita tv used a different controller and the games weren't really geared up for it. Sony also had the PS3, which was a better console.

A screenless switch makes a whole lot more sense and Nintendo have done stripped down consoles before (Family Wii).

 

[Xzi]

A minor revision is all I'd want. Something like the foam pre-installed in the joy-con, smaller/bigger model, better screen (hoping they'd use something along the lines of gorilla glass), less flimsy dock, etc.

Eh, the foam and dock I can understand. I doubt they'll change the size or the screen any time soon, though. If it were any smaller it'd have to use a different SoC, any larger and it would no longer work so well as a portable. You'd have to be trying hard to break the screen, the console is designed in such a way that the joy cons take all the impact from drops and protect it.

 

[Wiisel]

I'm all for a bare bones consolized switch I play docked with a pro controller 99.9% of the time anyway.

 

[Xzi]

I'm all for a bare bones consolized switch I play docked with a pro controller 99.9% of the time anyway.

It's something they could do, but I doubt Nintendo will see the need for it. It'd only save the customer like $50, and they could just wait for a price drop instead.

That would also take away Switch's advantage over XB1/PS4. Nintendo would be charging the same price ($250) for a console about 1/3rd as powerful as PS4 with nothing to set it apart other than being a less bulky stationary box.

 

[s157]

Eh, the foam and dock I can understand. I doubt they'll change the size or the screen any time soon, though. If it were any smaller it'd have to use a different SoC, any larger and it would no longer work so well as a portable. You'd have to be trying hard to break the screen, the console is designed in such a way that the joy cons take all the impact from drops and protect it.

I don't recall ever handling my switch improperly, but my screen has some minor scratches before my protectors came in. As in really minor, but now that I know of their existence they bother me. It could be a dock scratching issue, but I didn't notice until a day or two before my protector came in. My phone, on the other hand, uses gorilla glass, and while it's a smudgy wreck, has nearly 0 scratches. Thus my hope of getting a better screen in a revised model.

I also looked at opened switches, and yeah I can see why you can't make it any smaller. The X1 SoC hardly fits as it is.

I'm all for a bare bones consolized switch I play docked with a pro controller 99.9% of the time anyway.

Ha, you're my polar opposite in those views. I play it handheld as much as possible and would prefer a switch focused entirely on the handheld aspect.

 

[Urbanshadow]

Don't worry about price drops. There's a thing in economics called product devaluation which describes how the value of something decreases with time. It's actually OK for ninty to sell 1 year old switch stocks at 250$ per unit, even if at the time of production had a net worth of 257$. They just have to keep getting new bundles with new games to devaluate the older ones and cleanup the market of old units, like they do with N3DS.