Hardware Rather scathing piece by Polygon: Switch is in beta

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Of course it's still in Beta, the system isn't even out yet. It took months for the Xbox One and the PS4 to iron out OS and network bugs, this kind of stuff happens every single generation, how is this a surprise?
From what I've read those systems even had similar wireless controller issues that the joycon may have when they first launched. People seem to somehow forget that when a system first launches there may be some bugs, which is why console updates are a thing.
 
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Even if the joycon problem isn't solved by the day one launch, I'm fairly certain they will fix it shortly after. And it seems to not be a big deal if you don't plan on completely covering the controller with your hand.
Yeah I'm 100% certain this won't affect me at all even if the issue persists. Switch in its dock will be on my desk in front of me, like two feet from the controllers at most.
 
Yeah I'm 100% certain this won't affect me at all even if the issue persists. Switch in its dock will be on my desk in front of me, like two feet from the controllers at most.
For me the tv is maybe 5 feet away from me max, but I'm probably going to use it mostly in portable mode with the joycon attached to the system anyway.
 
From what I've read those systems even had similar wireless controller issues that the joycon may have when they first launched. People seem to somehow forget that when a system first launches there may be some bugs, which is why console updates are a thing.
Every console launch is basically a massive beta test these days. The PS4 hasn't reached its "final" form until recently with the Slim. First-generation hardware is always a gamble, I don't know why Polygon is surprised.
 
Every console launch is basically a massive beta test these days. The PS4 hasn't reached its "final" form until recently with the Slim. First-generation hardware is always a gamble, I don't know why Polygon is surprised.
It's funny to think that early adopters are beta testers and im just here waiting for a price drop or more good games.
 
For me the tv is maybe 5 feet away from me max, but I'm probably going to use it mostly in portable mode with the joycon attached to the system anyway.
At ign they said this connection problems only occur if you play in handheld mode and change to tv mode, because the joycons reduce the signal strength in handheld mode and after changing in TV mode they still send with less power. Pairing the joycons again in TV mode solves the problem as workaround. If this is right this is really no big issue and just a little software bug, which will be patched very soon.
 
It's funny to think that early adopters are beta testers and im just here waiting for a price drop or more good games.
On the other side of the coin early adopters get early access to any hacks as their systems are most likely to contain hardware and software exploits, their consoles are also more easily serviceable due to an abundance of spare parts and a well-understood build. Everything has advantages and disadvantages.
 
On the other side of the coin early adopters get early access to any hacks as their systems are most likely to contain hardware and software exploits, their consoles are also more easily serviceable due to an abundance of spare parts and a well-understood build. Everything has advantages and disadvantages.
I'm unsure why people believe Switch will be treated like previous Nintendo handhelds with quick turnaround on revisions...everything about Switch is already an exact balance of compromise between power and portability. It'll obviously get treated more like Nintendo home consoles, with a full lifetime and minimal revision. Joy cons, docks, and pro controllers can all be revised/added separately.
 
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I'm unsure why people believe Switch will be treated like previous Nintendo handhelds with quick turnaround on revisions...everything about Switch is already an exact balance of compromise between power and portability.
I will bet you that a new Switch revision is coming within two years of the initial release, even if it looks identical to the original. There are *always* ways to make things more efficient, it would be bizarre if the system had only one revision.
 
I will bet you that a new Switch revision is coming within two years of the initial release, even if it looks identical to the original. There are *always* ways to make things more efficient, it would be bizarre if the system had only one revision.
The only revision I can think of will be basically what the Wii U did. Not new hardware other than maybe a color difference and more internal storage. And with SD card prices dropping down it will probably cost less to just buy the "older" model and slap a high capacity SD in it.
 
I'm unsure why people believe Switch will be treated like previous Nintendo handhelds with quick turnaround on revisions...everything about Switch is already an exact balance of compromise between power and portability. It'll obviously get treated more like Nintendo home consoles, with a full lifetime and minimal revision. Joy cons, docks, and pro controllers can all be revised/added separately.
2 years is not a quick turnaround in electronics these days, almost all everything else gets yearly revisions.
 
2 years is not a quick turnaround in electronics these days, almost all everything else gets yearly revisions.
Yeah but console revisions have never followed those same timelines. XB1/PS4 will be around as long as Pro/Scorpio are. The S and Slim just make the consoles smaller, which wouldn't make sense for Switch, it's already as small as the SoC will allow. Not to mention that's about the smallest screen you would want for full console graphics.
 
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2 years is not a quick turnaround in electronics these days, almost all everything else gets yearly revisions.
On PC we get new hardware or revisions about once a year, but console is a different story which waits at least 2 years, and often times longer. And sometimes instead of a true "revision" we mostly get the same thing but in a smaller package, such as the xbox one s. Which would give you the same experience as the other console anyway so no use in upgrading.
 
Polygon is nothing but a bunch of super biased losers, if you so much as dare say anything that isn't in compliance to their opinions, you're banned. Boneheads.

Of course it's still in Beta, the system isn't even out yet. It took months for the Xbox One and the PS4 to iron out OS and network bugs, this kind of stuff happens every single generation, how is this a surprise?

"Because Nintendo is doing it" and therefore when someone besides Sony and Microsoft do this, they deserve ridicule /s
 
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Polygon is nothing but a bunch of super biased losers, if you so much as dare say anything that isn't in compliance to their opinions, you're banned. Boneheads.



"Because Nintendo is doing it" and therefore when someone besides Sony and Microsoft do this, they deserve ridicule /s
It seems whenever Nintendo does something all other console makers do, they for some reason get flack for it when the others don't. They seem to have double standards when it comes to Nintendo vs other consoles for some reason.
 
It seems whenever Nintendo does something all other console makers do, they for some reason get flack for it when the others don't. They seem to have double standards when it comes to Nintendo vs other consoles for some reason.

Yeah, and I find the whole mentality absolutely asinine and unwarranted.
 
My view is the console space is experiencing a lot of other choices and can't adhere to the old 6 year cycle anymore. The Switch may be around for more than 4 or more years but will become the entry level (dare I say it: replace the 3DS) with the Switch Pro/+/New/2/Gold whatever as the top their flagship.

The trick is upgrading/revising the chips while maintaining backwards compatibility.

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Yeah, and I find the whole mentality absolutely asinine and unwarranted.
You have a point, but I guarantee you will be saying something else *IF* your Joyless Cons go haywire every 10 minutes or so in a game.
 
My view is the console space is experiencing a lot of other choices and can't adhere to the old 6 year cycle anymore. The Switch may be around for more than 4 or more years but will become the entry level (dare I say it: replace the 3DS) with the Switch Pro/+/New/2/Gold whatever as the top their flagship.

The trick is upgrading/revising the chips while maintaining backwards compatibility.

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You have a point, but I guarantee you will be saying something else *IF* your Joyless Cons go haywire every 10 minutes or so in a game.

*Shrug* I think that issue is overblown, people are putting their hands in front, of course they're going to freak out. Wiimotes were the same.
 
*Shrug* I think that issue is overblown, people are putting their hands in front, of course they're going to freak out. Wiimotes were the same.
Could be. There is also at least one report from a YouTuber that it happens in the grip every ten minutes or so with no hands out in front. Could be a QA problem, could be lots of things. What I do know is everyone who gets one is going to be stress testing this Joyless Cons first thing after plugging it in and will be the main topic of discussion for at least a few days. That is why infind it so perplexing that Nintendo does not get out in front of this.
 

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