Piracy: Common Myths

[TotalInsanity4]

Ha, ha! The penultimate fact (Copyright rules outside US) would not be assigned to me (I was knowing about THAT V R OUT OF BERN CONVENTION)! I am proud that I am a pirate (and got a warning here for just MENTIONING a pirate site). Yarrrr!

You realize that the reason we can't link to rom sites is for GBAtemp's protection, not ours, right?

 

[DarkCoffe64]

My personal rule for piracy: If I like the game, I buy it. Or put it in a "remember to buy" list for when I can actually do it. I wanna support developers that make good games.
If I din't like it, oh well. Din't waste any money.


Also, 'bout that kongsnutz guy, was reading the comments on that Kotaku article, and the last one is by "him".
If it's actually him and not a troll impersonating him, what a a-hole. I hope he rots under a bridge or something.

 

[ym2612]

i dont know if that has been posted sofar (too lazy to read 12 pages) and also if that is pro/contra piracy but i always liked the urban legend about if not for piracy (and mod chips) the original playstation (called psx back then although there is another/real sony psx hardware would not have become such a huge success (and single cash-cow for troubled sony back then) and also cd-r burners would not have such high demand back in the days... anyone remembers goldenhawk's cdrwin? at least it paved the way out of hobbyist/enthusiast into the global mainstream market.

 

[B.B.Link]

Go ahead and try to justify pirating all you want. At the end of the day, you're still taking money out of somebody's pocket every time you download something you should've paid for. If you believe even 1% that pirating is OK then you're really fucked in the head.

 

[Sketchy1]

I'm just some guy on a forum, they'll never get me.
Tell that to GBATemp member kongsnutz, who was sued for $1,500,000 AUD.

difference is Nintendo knows were just small potatoes tho.

people who dump the game in the first place are their real priority, which is why they sued that guy (to make an example).
plus, what he did wouldnt exactly constitute as piracy but rather creating your own copy, which is circumventing encryptions.

that aside, id just like to see a source for that "no money loss statement"
because every time you download, they dont get their money, which is essentially the same as me going to my local gamestop, and walking away with a game i didnt pay for, so all in all, it did actually subtract money, my account stood at $500, rather then $502 for the song you pirated

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My personal rule for piracy: If I like the game, I buy it. Or put it in a "remember to buy" list for when I can actually do it. I wanna support developers that make good games.
If I din't like it, oh well. Din't waste any money.

just let natural game selection take its course

 

[Westwoodo]

It's amazing the things some people believe.

 

[Vipera]

I can't believe this nosense is in a sticked post.

• Piracy is theft.
  This is by far the most common myth. Piracy is not theft because it does not cause any direct damage or loss to the other party (in fact, whether there's another party at all is sometimes up for debate). Theft, on the other hand, is a criminal act because in committing an act of theft, you deprive somebody of something. If I go and take an old lady's purse, then due to my actions the old lady has been caused a loss, her purse. However, when pirating, nobody loses anything. The pirater gains a copy of some digital item, while the person/entity who originally created that item is completely unaffected by the act.

If you are using something you didn't pay for, you stole it. You are causing a loss of profit to the person who made that thing you downloaded for free. A lot of the folks down to the "I can't afford it, so I pirate it" club can afford to spend 50 bucks for a game. They just don't want to, because they found a free alternative at the cost of making the creators lose their profit.

You people who pirate should really stop trying to justify why you pirate. We get it, you feel entitled to something that you don't want to pay because you feel like having other priorities.

 

[DarkCoffe64]

just let natural game selection take its course

And waste 60+ dollars/euros/whatever for a game I might end up not liking, and get almost nothing when I turn it back?
No thanks, I'll stick to my method. I'm not Scrooge McDuck.

 

[Sketchy1]

And waste 60+ dollars/euros/whatever for a game I might end up not liking, and get almost nothing when I turn it back?
No thanks, I'll stick to my method. I'm not Scrooge McDuck.

*when i agreed with it*
pirate a game before you buy it. that way:

bad games die out because people dont buy them.
good companies get $$$

natural selection killed the least fit.

 

[DarkCoffe64]

*when i agreed with it*
pirate a game before you buy it. that way:

bad games die out because people dont buy them.
good companies get $$$

natural selection killed the least fit.

Well, ain't this a good thing? This way, "developers" lke Digital Homicide or Dentola Studios wouldn't have more any money to "create" more "games".

*when i agreed with it*

What, you were alright with this then changed your mind? I don't know if I'm understanding you...

 

[HamBone41801]

correct me if I'm wrong, but recently (in the u.s. at least), the law surrounding this part of the post has changed.

I bought the disc/cart/game, so I can do whatever I want with the software on it!
Sadly, false as well. In the majority of cases, what you have bought is a physical object containing the information and a license to use that single copy of the information, which is different from owning the object outright.

Ill look for the article for this, but if I remember correctly, it was something along the lines of companies can't prosecute you for tampering with the software of things you buy (There are obviously lots of exceptions, but I cant seem to find that article.)

 

[Sketchy1]

Well, ain't this a good thing? This way, "developers" lke Digital Homicide or Dentola Studios wouldn't have more any money to "create" more "games".


What, you were alright with this then changed your mind? I don't know if I'm understanding you...

lmao i mean i was fine with your original post. only buy games that ya like

 

[HamBone41801]

Well, ain't this a good thing? This way, "developers" lke Digital Homicide or Dentola Studios wouldn't have more any money to "create" more "games".


What, you were alright with this then changed your mind? I don't know if I'm understanding you...

Digital homicide is the WORST.

 

[Sketchy1]

Digital homicide is the WORST.

hence their name.
they kill the will to play

 

[Dust2dust]

... i always liked the urban legend about if not for piracy (and mod chips) the original playstation ... would not have become such a huge success (and single cash-cow for troubled sony back then) and also cd-r burners would not have such high demand back in the days... anyone remembers goldenhawk's cdrwin?

Back in the PS2/XBOX/Gamecube era, the Gamecube was the last one to get hacked, and as it turned out, was also the least popular console. Coincidence? Maybe. About Goldenhawk's cdrwin, yes I remember this. It was considered the best app to successfully burn Playstation games. But ironically, this program itself was heavily pirated. There were rumors that a pirated bad key to unlock the app would be accepted when entered, but then, the app would burn coasters or do even nastier things like corrupt the registry. Luckily, the keygens I used back then always produced good keys.

 

[crimsonedge11]

I'm just gonna throw this out there, but someone gifted the new DOOM game to me on steam. I never downloaded it because it's over 60gbs. And they frequently release (monthly) 10GB+ updates they force you to install before you can play the game. Anyway, pirates put up a ripped copy of the game that's around 20GBs, where they cut the online stuff out of it. DOOM online is plagued with hackers anyway, and something I'd never have played. So even though I own an official copy of the game, I'd rather play the ripped 20GB copy that doesn't lock me out of playing it (I play this once or twice a month) to update content I'm never going to play (online).

This is an example of a non-monetary reason why someone might pirate a game. I absolutely detest "forced updates" for games that aren't 100% online. I understand why this should be required for online games, but even for games that have online + offline, why couldn't they just lock you out of online until you update? I hate being locked into having to do this. This is why I'm not a huge fan of steam. And this is why I might consider pirating a game even if money isn't an issue. Big brother doesn't force me to update the pirated versions. What if there is a glitch/exploit I'm having fun doing in the current version, update rolls along, and I can't play it anymore without updating, and neither can I roll it back?

 

[Deleted User]

I can't believe this nosense is in a sticked post.

If you are using something you didn't pay for, you stole it. You are causing a loss of profit to the person who made that thing you downloaded for free. A lot of the folks down to the "I can't afford it, so I pirate it" club can afford to spend 50 bucks for a game. They just don't want to, because they found a free alternative at the cost of making the creators lose their profit.

You people who pirate should really stop trying to justify why you pirate. We get it, you feel entitled to something that you don't want to pay because you feel like having other priorities.

How come you're unable to understand the difference between a copy and a theft? Even when it's spelled our right in front of you. That's not normal.

 

[Vipera]

How come you're unable to understand the difference between a copy and a theft? Even when it's spelled our right in front of you. That's not normal.

Looks like someone failed economics class.

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[Hells Malice]

Looks like someone failed economics class.

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Looks like someone failed 4th grade English.

Theft by definition requires that you've taken or removed something.

The first post is worded a bit oddly in favour of pirating, however it's still correct.
I don't think anyone was saying piracy is okay because it isn't theft (well some have, but they're morons). It's just not, by definition, theft. I think that's just your entitlement flaring up because you apparently don't pirate games.

Unfortunately no matter how entitled you act, you can't and won't be changing the definition of the word 'theft' to suit your needs here. You just look ignorant.

 

[Vipera]

Looks like someone failed 4th grade English.

Theft by definition requires that you've taken or removed something.

The first post is worded a bit oddly in favour of pirating, however it's still correct.
I don't think anyone was saying piracy is okay because it isn't theft (well some have, but they're morons). It's just not, by definition, theft. I think that's just your entitlement flaring up because you apparently don't pirate games.

Unfortunately no matter how entitled you act, you can't and won't be changing the definition of the word 'theft' to suit your needs here. You just look ignorant.

Woah there buddy, need some creme for that butthurt?

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