Homebrew Nintendo could could easily fix hardmod downgrades

[Conn0r]

You know how you can't downgrade to and from some NATIVE_FIRMs without downgrading every other title? ex. 10.7 -> 9.2 = no go.

If Nintendo just artificially put some incompatibilities into some of the system titles with previous firmwares, that would semi-fix the DSi and hardmod downgrade.

Don't tell Ninty

 

[SomeGamer]

Or just upgrade the major version of them. Problem solved!

 

[PewnyPL]

You know how you can't downgrade to and from some NATIVE_FIRMs without downgrading every other title? ex. 10.7 -> 9.2 = no go.

If Nintendo just artificially put some incompatibilities into some of the system titles with previous firmwares, that would semi-fix the DSi and hardmod downgrade.

Don't tell Ninty

Doesn't the hardmod/DSi downgrade replace ALL titles with older versions anyway? In this case, even if 11.1 (or perhaps 12.0) had som titles that are incompatible with older versions of FIRM, they will just have to be replaced during downgrade as well.

 

[Halvorsen]

Doesn't the hardmod/DSi downgrade replace ALL titles with older versions anyway? In this case, even if 11.1 (or perhaps 12.0) had som titles that are incompatible with older versions of FIRM, they will just have to be replaced during downgrade as well.

No, it literally just replaces 11.0 NFIRM with 10.4 NFIRM.

 

[Conn0r]

Doesn't the hardmod/DSi downgrade replace ALL titles with older versions anyway? In this case, even if 11.1 (or perhaps 12.0) had som titles that are incompatible with older versions of FIRM, they will just have to be replaced during downgrade as well.

The NAND modification in these exploits involves the firmware in the NAND being plaintext. So no, only the NATIVE_FIRM is changed.

Edit:Ninja'd

 

[PewnyPL]

No, it literally just replaces 11.0 NFIRM with 10.4 NFIRM.

Oh, alright then. But would it be possible to make it also replace titles in the NAND?

EDIT: Ninja'd by Conn0r, disregard this post.

 

[Diego788]

could could

nintendo can do lot of things to prevent piracy

 

[vb_encryption_vb]

This has been talked about, I don't know in about 30 or 40 different threads now...

 

[Clector]

Yes, Nintendo can easily have done this a lot time before but they didn"t for some reason.
@PewnyPL No, you can"t change the Nand installed titles with DSiWareHax.

 

[Conn0r]

Like seriously, it would be like one line of code checking CVer on boot and if there's a mismatch then trigger SAFEMODE_FIRM.

 

[vb_encryption_vb]

Like seriously, it would be like one line of code checking CVer on boot and if there's a mismatch then trigger SAFEMODE_FIRM.

No, native firm needs to be updated to block hardmod downgrade method, DSIwarehax could be patched far easier.

 

[ih8ih8sn0w]

Or just upgrade the major version of them. Problem solved!

That will invalidate the signature on the title, which will cause them to not be usable.

 

[SomeGamer]

That will invalidate the signature on the title, which will cause them to not be usable.

I meant if Ninty did this. We can do the HM DG because minor version isn't checked, right?

 

[Conn0r]

No, native firm needs to be updated to block hardmod downgrade method, DSIwarehax could be patched far easier.

I was implying a change in native firm

 

[vb_encryption_vb]

http://gbatemp.net/threads/hardmod-users-only-downgrade-native_firm-from-11-0-0.412836/page-6

Tons of info can be found here, this is when it all started. I was the first to confirm it would actually work.

 

[Clector]

@Conn0r The kind of blocking you said make me remeber more to the Home Menu and the NS module from 10.4.0-X.