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Eurogamer are reporting that Nintendo's upcoming NX will be a portable, handheld console with detachable controllers:

On the move, NX will function as a high-powered handheld console with its own display. So far so normal - but here's the twist: we've heard the screen is bookended by two controller sections on either side, which can be attached or detached as required.
Then, when you get home, the system can connect to your TV for gaming on the big screen.
A base unit, or dock station, is used to connect the brain of the NX - within the controller - to display on your TV.

Read the full article with a lot more info here: Source

 

[FrozenDragon150]

I think his complaint is less about the number of games going to PC rather than the types and quality of games on PC and PC-like consoles. Even if I misunderstood him, I think there's a point in that idea anyways. I feel like the PC hardware doesn't lend itself easily to innovation and experimentation in a hardware sense the way Nintendo consoles do (DS line and Wii/U). I feel like it's those kinds of shifts in the way users fundamentally interact with games software that's the only direction left to advance gaming as a whole. I feel like we've hit the ceiling as far as what more graphics and processing power can add to a gaming experience, and those are about the only directions in which PC and current gen consoles are moving. Frankly, I feel like we hit that ceiling a few years ago. As a matter of illustrating my perspective in a very subjective, opinion based way, I feel like if the PS4 and Xbone dropped out of existance right now, I would barely feel anything at all, but if the WiiU and the prospective of future Nintendo home consoles disappeared, I would feel like gaming as a whole would have lost a huge chunk of itself. This is coming from someone who doesn't own any current gen consoles, by the by.

You did not misunderstand me, that's exactly what I meant.

 

[Bladexdsl]

I feel like if the PS4 and Xbone dropped out of existence right now,

well that's what happens when you only have 3 types of games shooters, racing and sports

-fixed your typo

 

[Meteor7]

-fixed your typo

Balls. I hate it wen I od taht.

 

[Roxe__]

Whelp, here we go.

Android is an OS that is outside of Nintendo's control. If Google decides to make any major changes Nintendo would be forced to adopt them or stick with an older version.

Android is designed to be easily modified. Consequently, any user can hack their console and add software or modifications that Nintendo cannot condone, such as cheats for online games.

Android has security vulnerabilities up the wazoo and has to be updated monthly. Not even Android manufacturers can keep up (Except Blackberry's Priv; and Moto bowed out of timely updates). Do you really want to be installing security updates every month?

Android cannot be locked down. Any paid app on Google Play can and has been hacked so you can play it for free, even on devices the app was not designed for. Hell, I have the Blackberry Priv's app suite on my Moto X Play despite them supposedly locked to the Priv. Any game Nintendo offers for the console, even if they use their own app store, can be hacked and played for free - and even played on non-Nintendo handhelds (hardware permitting).

Android does not have efficient resource optimization. An errant app can slow down the system and kill the battery, and most users can't do anything about that.

To make a consideration worthwhile, Nintendo would need the Google Play Store and therefore comply with all OHA regulations (severly limiting how much they can lock down and secure the OS). If they do not have access to the Play Store, then it is completely pointless to be running Android in the first place because Developers will have to manually bring their apps to the eShop, so might as well add the step of converting to the OS that the console uses.

I'm aware that people have a vague desire for wanting android on their console, but Android and Nintendo are inherently incompatible. Any such discussion is purely nonsensical, with as much merit as wanting a fish as a Ferrari. To even talk about it is an insult to Nintendo's integrity and shows vast ignorance about how the company actually runs.

I'm sorry but what?
No one said or mentioned anything about the device having Android but whatever... You mentioned all of these vulnerabilities about Android, but completely failed/avoided to mention that the same problems exists with Apple the only difference is Android is more open about it. You also failed to mention that most of all of the consoles out so far have already been rooted/hacked/home-brewed/jailbroken/hard modded due to the same "vulnerabilities". So it doesn't really matter what precautions they take, developers going to develop while hackers going to root/hack. The only thing that seems to be safe right now is Denovo, where the game has to be connected to the internet while playing, otherwise won't launch/kick you out. And I don't mind if they do implement such a feature in games to play their games on my phone, because that would be one less device for me to carry/have, anyways this was all hypothetical.

 

[hksrb25s14]

I knew this thing had to be a tablet, they were talking about something everyone has and is used to, which is a tablet. But using a tegra? Don't get me wrong Nvidia shield TV runs games! But it can barely emulate GameCube games and has problems running some 3d android apps.
Oh well, I'll buy it anyways.

 

[gbaboy123]

ubisoft said the nx is great and 2k interactive said they trust Nintendo. there goes you third party support. we already have a sonic game and a dragon quest game on the go so lets just trust Nintendo in this one okay

 

[G3nji]

Im not going to judge this for now, im going to wait for the official design before i bash the shit outta this

 

[Bladexdsl]

im going to wait for the official design before i bash the shit outta this

i'm not this is too much fun especially on IGN

 

[Deleted User]

Fucked up how? By not wanting to fall in the same stagnant pit of hell PC, Sony and Microsuck have fallen?

The NX is supposed to be a console , not a shitty 1-drop-uhuh-buy-another-NX-cuz-now-its-broken, portables are known for their terrible performance and not-good resolution( Unless AMD is secretly working on paper-slim GPU with the power of 10 GTX Titans)

 

[RemixDeluxe]

I still don't see the benefit of not revealing this during E3 when majority of viewers (potential sales) and investors could get in on this. We're they afraid Microsoft and Sony copying what they had planned? They both seem too busy upgrading their existing consoles and don't see Nintendo as a threat at all.

Whenever Nintendo does feel ready to officially show this I hope it pays off for them.

 

[FrozenDragon150]

The NX is supposed to be a console , not a shitty 1-drop-uhuh-buy-another-NX-cuz-now-its-broken, portables are known for their terrible performance and not-good resolution( Unless AMD is secretly working on paper-slim GPU with the power of 10 GTX Titans)

"Supposed to be" smells of feeling entitled to have a say on the direction a company should be headed. You don't know the performance of the actual device, and FYI, the Vita was just a little below the PS3, and that was a portable

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The NX is supposed to be a console , not a shitty 1-drop-uhuh-buy-another-NX-cuz-now-its-broken, portables are known for their terrible performance and not-good resolution( Unless AMD is secretly working on paper-slim GPU with the power of 10 GTX Titans)

Funny, you make it sound like Nintendo handhelds don't consistently top the charts every console generation

 

[kabloomz]

Whelp, here we go.

Android is an OS that is outside of Nintendo's control. If Google decides to make any major changes Nintendo would be forced to adopt them or stick with an older version.

....

I'm aware that people have a vague desire for wanting android on their console, but Android and Nintendo are inherently incompatible. Any such discussion is purely nonsensical, with as much merit as wanting a fish as a Ferrari. To even talk about it is an insult to Nintendo's integrity and shows vast ignorance about how the company actually runs.

Android is a terrible platform for any serious gaming... (at least in it's current state)... but it is a money maker.

Nintendo still has to take Android/iOS into consideration if it wants to stay current and evolve (Pokemon GO). I'm not saying FULLY embrace it and run the flagship platform on Android but more so in the sense of coexisting. All of the points you mention are valid and they should figure a way to work with this why? Because my biggest fear is Nintendo going the route of SEGA. Like the Dreamcast who was ahead of it's time... The Wii introduced new concepts in gaming with motion controls. These innovations however, haven't had the desired impact on revenue other than maybe keeping the company interesting and afloat.... hardware innovations can only go so far, ultimately they need to look at the software side of gaming and make it work better. After all that's what gaming is all about right? How addicting is the game?

Take this into consideration:

Supercell (maker of Clash Of Clans, Clash Royale, Boom Beach) makes a killing on their games with generic hardware requirements. I have coworkers who have spent almost $3,000 usd alone on CoC buying gems for a game that has no ending and is mindlessly redundant at times. I remember growing up and saving my hard earned cash for a game cartridge that was like $20 and that was expensive... Games these days are $50/60 bux a pop. Supercell spends zero money on hardware r&d, zero cost on game media & production (physical gaming discs boxes, cases, etc) and still manage to get people to spend that much money ingaming... $2 billion in revenue 2015 for 3 products. (sidetrack: you can't really hack their games... trainers but not any major hacks that really give u a solid winning edge especially gem theft).

So... whatever Nintendo does with their new hardware, innovations, etc... they need to consider android/ios(mobile) revenue models, cross platforming, all-the-while making engaging games. They need a healthy and valuable marketplace that all people could access. Seems like they are working at it with games like Pokemon Go.

 

[Clydefrosch]

We already have 2 powerful consoles. Why do we need a third? It's not like we have more than two car manufacturers that make the same kind of cars. Oh wait....

lol, with that thinking, we wouldn't have gotten a playstation or an xbox in the first place

 

[Thunder Kai]

Wii U 2.0

 

[DragorianSword]

How... does that contraption work/fit into your pocket?

It's not like the last generation of handhelds really fit in your pocket either...
Ok the normal 3DS does (but only just), but the 3DS XL, 2DS and psvita hardly fit in your pocket.
It's 'handheld' not pocketheld too btw.
Especially with pockets getting smaller and smaller (what's up with that anyway )
The original GameBoy, Gamegear, etc where hardly devices that fit in your pocket too.
The only handhelds that ever fit comfortably in my pocket were the GBC, GBA SP and PSP

Anyway, I would quite like it if this turned out to be real.
I'm more of a handheld gamer anyway. I just like to game while simultaniously watching television, which you can't do if you're already using the TV for your console.
And it would be nice if suddenly all of Nintendo's new games would come out on the same platform and not spread out over a handheld and a console.
I agree that some games profit from being played on the handheld while other are better when played on a tv screen, but it would be beautiful if they could combine the 2.
Don't get me wrong I'm still sceptic, but if they do it right it could be really great.

 

[RemixDeluxe]

Remember those sources from 1-2 years ago that showed donut controllers and they were produced by Sharp. Maybe that was just a concept and nothing final but that was a hell of a lot more exciting than what is being shown here.

I'll give the benefit of the doubt this will be just as cool but also being underpowered in specs doesn't do anyone favors like 3rd party devs.

 

[Deleted User]

Funny, you make it sound like Nintendo handhelds don't consistently top the charts every console generation

there is a significant difference between a portable and a home console

"Supposed to be" smells of feeling entitled to have a say on the direction a company should be headed. You don't know the performance of the actual device, and FYI, the Vita was just a little below the PS3, and that was a portable

But the PS3 was released in 2006, and the PSVITA is released in 2013, Of course hardware got better

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[Futurdreamz]

Android is a terrible platform for any serious gaming... (at least in it's current state)... but it is a money maker.

Nintendo still has to take Android/iOS into consideration if it wants to stay current and evolve (Pokemon GO). I'm not saying FULLY embrace it and run the flagship platform on Android but more so in the sense of coexisting. All of the points you mention are valid and they should figure a way to work with this why? Because my biggest fear is Nintendo going the route of SEGA. Like the Dreamcast who was ahead of it's time... The Wii introduced new concepts in gaming with motion controls. These innovations however, haven't had the desired impact on revenue other than maybe keeping the company interesting and afloat.... hardware innovations can only go so far, ultimately they need to look at the software side of gaming and make it work better. After all that's what gaming is all about right? How addicting is the game?

Take this into consideration:

Supercell (maker of Clash Of Clans, Clash Royale, Boom Beach) makes a killing on their games with generic hardware requirements. I have coworkers who have spent almost $3,000 usd alone on CoC buying gems for a game that has no ending and is mindlessly redundant at times. I remember growing up and saving my hard earned cash for a game cartridge that was like $20 and that was expensive... Games these days are $50/60 bux a pop. Supercell spends zero money on hardware r&d, zero cost on game media & production (physical gaming discs boxes, cases, etc) and still manage to get people to spend that much money ingaming... $2 billion in revenue 2015 for 3 products. (sidetrack: you can't really hack their games... trainers but not any major hacks that really give u a solid winning edge especially gem theft).

So... whatever Nintendo does with their new hardware, innovations, etc... they need to consider android/ios(mobile) revenue models, cross platforming, all-the-while making engaging games. They need a healthy and valuable marketplace that all people could access. Seems like they are working at it with games like Pokemon Go.

Money maker for... Who?

Just because your coworker has a microtraction addiction problem doesn't mean that most people do. In fact, free-to-play games get 90% of their profit from "whales" like your coworker who spend obscene amounts of money for something of little value. Most gamers will spend little to no money in a free game. And the game becomes unpopular really fast. Remember Candy Crush? Nobody's playing that shit anymore. The two biggest free-to-play companies (King and someone else) are not doing so hot themselves.

Manufacturers are fighting tooth and nail against each other, with Samsung being the only one that is making any notable profit.
Game developers only make profit on free-to-play games, and even then they are fighting to keep people interested in their games. Games that cost more than even $5 are pretty much dead.
So despite Nintendo not making any profit on hardware nor making any profit on games, Android is a "money maker." riiight.

And that's aside from the fact that the result would be a monstrosity which will be complete garbage after two years. It will have obsolete hardware in one year, online gaming would be a hacking nightmare in six months, and Nintendo will lose control of the platform in one month. How's the Oyua doing? Attaching a name brand to it would not solve it's problems.

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there is a significant difference between a portable and a home console

But the PS3 was released in 2006, and the PSVITA is released in 2013, Of course hardware got better

Only seven years, and the PS3 was the most powerful thing at it's time. The Wii U was only a little more powerful than the Xbox 360 and was immediately overshadowed by the PS4 and Xbox one. Five years is enough for the NX to be more powerful than the Wii U despite being a portable.

 

[Inukami]

They can't do that anymore without an entirely new concept, they can't afford it. Separating their games has so far resulted in both systems cannibalizing each other.

I hate how so many people in this thread can't seem to think in the consequences of what would happen if the company did what the fans want them to do. Going home console only? You kill your portable profits, go portable only? You kill your home console profits AND your high-profile home console type titles. Go third-party? Lose their stated objective (innovation, fun and quality) thanks to entering the stagnant market. Let them do as they please and tread on new grounds, just like they did on the Wii and DS, and look, they printed money and got some absolutely wonderful games.

so if someone only wants a handheld to play on the go and doesn't want to spend $350 on a console, then too bad? that seems like wasted opportunity.