Homebrew Leaked SDK = better homebrew?

[Duo8]

So are those ISO sites classed as backalley forums then?

Technically. They're the definition of shady.
I'm not bashing it though (even if it deserve it to an extent for the host-shilling tactics.)

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

I still disagree with using leaked SDK's because it tends to really make things difficult in the long run. Homebrew that's made with it is automatically illegal in most if not all countries as opposed to using a legal open source SDK that's developed by the homebrew community. Sure the official SDK has a LOT more functionality because its made by the console manufacturer, that's a given, but homebrew is no good if you need to jump through hoops and go to shady @$$ websites just to obtain it, putting yourself at a much higher risk for malware/viruses etc not to mention its illegal.

 

[Deleted User]

It's unfortunate that it's really looked down upon because I am hoping that one day that I can finally sign up to the Nintendo Developer Portal and get the latest SDK and Unity for N3DS for personal uses, and then somehow share my projects with the world. But I'm too goddamn young to be doing that officially yet, and I'm so tired of developing for freeware now (PC and mobile mostly; been doing it for a couple of years now), so that's why I tend to look out for, and use, the official console stuff like this, and hope I can make some good stuff with it. And then like me and others have said, there's just no way to easily share those said projects on the web.

TL;DR, Laws surrounding technology are shit sometimes.

 

[Joom]

putting yourself at a much higher risk for malware/viruses

Only if you're dumb and just blindly execute whatever you download. It's probably not a good idea to run "imadolphinnotavirus.exe".

 

[CeeDee]

It's unfortunate that it's really looked down upon because I am hoping that one day that I can finally sign up to the Nintendo Developer Portal and get the latest SDK and Unity for N3DS for personal uses, and then somehow share my projects with the world. But I'm too goddamn young to be doing that officially yet, and I'm so tired of developing for freeware now (PC and mobile mostly; been doing it for a couple of years now), so that's why I tend to look out for, and use, the official console stuff like this, and hope I can make some good stuff with it. And then like me and others have said, there's just no way to easily share those said projects on the web.

TL;DR, Laws surrounding technology are shit sometimes.

By the time you'll be able to get them, there'll probably be a new console out.
Either way, get the SDK and Unity for it... then leak them.

 

[Deleted User]

By the time you'll be able to get them, there'll probably be a new console out.

That's what I was thinking you see. If it's portable, I would still happily make games for it though.

Either way, get the SDK and Unity for it... then leak them.

heh, we'll see... depends if I can post them as anonymous as possible if that makes any sense...

 

[CeeDee]

That's what I was thinking you see. If it's portable, I would still happily make games for it though.

heh, we'll see... depends if I can post them as anonymous as possible if that makes any sense...

Step 1: make anonymous account at... whatever it'll be called. You can guess.
Step 2: remove identifying info from SDK/Unity tools, if possible.
Step 3: upload and post
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit

 

[Deleted User]

Step 1: make anonymous account at... whatever it'll be called. You can guess.
Step 2: remove identifying info from SDK/Unity tools, if possible.
Step 3: upload and post
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit

I'd no doubt have to use a good, decent proxy/VPN as well, if I don't want my real IP address traced too.

 

[Slashcash]

I'd no doubt have to use a good, decent proxy/VPN as well, if I don't want my real IP address traced too.

If you'll ever have access to the official devkit PLEASE don't ever try to leak it. You clearly don't know what you are talking about if you think that a proxy is enough to cover you and this is going to put you and your parents in a massive shitstorm you'll remember for your entire life.

Leaking a devkit after signing an NDA is not the same as dumping your Zelda cartridge and posting it on that iso site.

 

[Deleted User]

If you'll ever have access to the official devkit PLEASE don't ever try to leak it. You clearly don't know what you are talking about if you think that a proxy is enough to cover you and this is going to put you and your parents in a massive shitstorm you'll remember for your entire life.

Leaking a devkit after signing an NDA is not the same as dumping your Zelda cartridge and posting it on that iso site.

Lol I don't even have access to the dev site, you know.
Jesus, there's no need to get so overprotective about me. I do as I please. I know you are trying to give me advice, but at the end of the day, it's my decision whether I want to leak it or not. Stop worrying.

 

[evandixon]

Lol I don't even have access to the dev site, you know.
Jesus, there's no need to get so overprotective about me. I do as I please. I know you are trying to give me advice, but at the end of the day, it's my decision whether I want to leak it or not. Stop worrying.

The consequences in US law (I can't see your flag on mobile) would be up to a $250,000 fine and/or up to 5 years in jail per occurrance. I don't think that's something you should chance.

[Edit] and that's just for piracy. The concequences may be higher if an NDA is involved.

 

[Duo8]

Leak it through a scene group.
By the time you can get in contact with a proper one you should already know what to do.

 

[Deleted User]

right, let me ask you all a little something. Why is it that Ryanrocks462 leaks nearly all of the Wii U dev stuff, and he never gets fined or anything?

 

[Duo8]

right, let me ask you all a little something. Why is it that Ryanrocks462 leaks nearly all of the Wii U dev stuff, and he never gets fined or anything?

Did he actually signed the NDA? He has to be the original source of the leaks to be held liable for breaking NDA. There doesn't seem to be a way to confirm this.

Then again maybe they just didn't care. Test units are on ebay and craiglist and aren't even expensive. That's only for the Wii U though.

 

[Deleted User]

Did he actually signed the NDA? He has to be the original source of the leaks to be held liable for breaking NDA. There doesn't seem to be a way to confirm this.

He signed the developer.nintendo.com NDA. I'm not too sure about the wiiu-developers.nintendo.com NDA. I don't think so; I think he uses Huntereb's account for the WiiU-specific stuff. He's officially signed up to developer.nintendo, I definitely know that. (But is the same Wii U software hosted on wiiu-developers.nintendo the same software as the Wii U stuff on developer.nintendo?)

 

[WulfyStylez]

I am hoping that one day that I can finally sign up to the Nintendo Developer Portal and get the latest SDK and Unity for N3DS for personal uses

this isn't a thing, and even if it was nintendo wouldn't let you distribute anything thru any channels but the official ones (and likely at a price no homebrew devs would be able to afford).
ctrulib exists as a legal re-implementation of SDK functionality to simply not require any leaked code, libs, docs, etc to be needed ever.

also tbh i hope for his own sake that ryanrocks stops leaking other peoples' NDA'd dev software before he turns 18 or he's going to have a huuuuuge lawsuit on his hands, obviously. he's super skeezy and not rly commanding of respect in any circles, but i still wouldn't wish that on anyone.

 

[Joom]

(and likely at a price no homebrew devs would be able to afford)

That's rather presumptuous of you. I'm certain there are devs that could afford whatever it would cost,especially since a lot of them purchase multiple systems just for development.

 

[Deleted User]

this isn't a thing

??? please explain that in more detail. There are members here who are signed up to there, so why shouldn't I?

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

He signed the developer.nintendo.com NDA. I'm not too sure about the wiiu-developers.nintendo.com NDA. I don't think so; I think he uses Huntereb's account for the WiiU-specific stuff. He's officially signed up to developer.nintendo, I definitely know that. (But is the same Wii U software hosted on wiiu-developers.nintendo the same software as the Wii U stuff on developer.nintendo?)

Ryan is not an official developer by any means. He's getting all the developer stuff by proxy. I know because he approached me about it a while ago asking if I would help him out with that and I told him absolutely not because I don't want to screw up my career and/or end up in prison. I'm sure he's getting it from someone else though

It's unfortunate that it's really looked down upon because I am hoping that one day that I can finally sign up to the Nintendo Developer Portal and get the latest SDK and Unity for N3DS for personal uses, and then somehow share my projects with the world. But I'm too goddamn young to be doing that officially yet, and I'm so tired of developing for freeware now (PC and mobile mostly; been doing it for a couple of years now), so that's why I tend to look out for, and use, the official console stuff like this, and hope I can make some good stuff with it. And then like me and others have said, there's just no way to easily share those said projects on the web.

TL;DR, Laws surrounding technology are shit sometimes.

You can sign up if you're a minor as long as your parents sign off on it. I don't believe that you're allowed to release anything until you're 18 though, but don't quote me on that. And if you do sign up, don't fuck up your future by leaking anything.

 

[Duo8]

Ryan is not an official developer by any means. He's getting all the developer stuff by proxy. I know because he approached me about it a while ago asking if I would help him out with that and I told him absolutely not because I don't want to screw up my career and/or end up in prison. I'm sure he's getting it from someone else though

About what I'd expected.