If you have a way to help people that are on 5.x-9.2 without a working browser to use the online exploit, feel free to share, you'll make a lot of happy people.
I never said I had a way for 5.0-9.2 without a browser, nor have I mentioned that the 2 games port would be useless. This argument is totally different to the original statement, which is to have a DS profile on the 9.x firmware rather than actually downgrading the console. Not everyone wants to downgrade, for various reasons, most notably, saves incompatibility.
I said those people without a working browser need another offline exploit, so the Cubic Ninja/Ocarina of Time one. They'll never be able to use an online exploit as they don't have a working browser because those 3DS were never updated online (cart updates don't have browser update in it).
Yeah, fair statement. It was never argued that we don't need another exploit. Again this is a whole different argument. The whole argument is not related to whether we need the 2 games to be ported or not. The whole argument is that this new DS profile exploit which doesn't require you to downgrade the system CAN exist without the REQUIREMENT of having the games ported. These are 2 different exploits. The games port would simply be an additional exploit (which I agree we should have)
And yeah, once they would have a Cubic Ninja/Ocarina of Time update, this mset thing will be near useless as if they really want the ds profile exploit, then, they could just downgrade.
And you said "no, they don't need it, they can use the online one", but no, they can't. Get a O3DS which a "0" digit at the end of the firmware, with-in the 5.0-9.2 range and try the exploit browser, you'll see by yourself it don't work.
Again, you are just forcing people to downgrade. The point of porting this new DS profile is to keep your 3ds on a 9.x firmware and still have an offline method. The entry point for installation would be the online method we have so nothing needs to be ported in that area.
The argument to have the Zelda/ninja games ported for those without a working exploit is valid (and yes, needed), but is in no way REQUIRED to get the DS profile exploit running. It's a whole new exploit for those who do not even have an exploit!
The answer is not "if you really want the DS profile exploit, then, you can just downgrade". Really? No shit lol. The argument was related to having the DS profile ported. It wouldn't require the 2 games port as we already have an entry point. Those who do not have an exploit are simply asking for an exploit. That's not what we are talking about! I am repeating this over and over now I hope I got the point across!
Where did I said this exploit was useless for O3DS users? It's mainly an O3DS update only, because of the emunand 9.7 support, so of course it' bring a lot to O3DS.
You said the exploit is useless, and even mentioned it in the paragraph above. By exploit, we are talking about the mset exploit, which you are saying that we already have one (we don't, on the 9.x firmwares)
What you are talking about here. The emunand 9.7 and whatnot, is an update to the GW firmware, not an exploit. 2 different things
So, quoting the original statement again, now that you know about those browserless 3DS issue. Of course, they need to port the Cubic Ninja/Ocarina of Time exploit (or find another offline exploit) if they want everyone to be able to use it.
Of course, people with browser exploit might be able to run it if it works on O3DS, but I don't think much people care. People who wanted a offline exploit already downgraded (and only a few people care about the save incompatibility with retail cards as probably 99% of gateway users doesn't use retail cards), so pretty useless for O3DS users that already have a working exploit (especially when probably most users don't use the browser exploit, except to downgrade).
And if it doesn't work directly on O3DS (didn't tested), I just think it would be a waste of time to port this mset thing to O3DS.
Thanks first of all for telling me about the browserless issue. I didn't know that existed.
That being said, my statement still holds. To get the mset/DS profile exploit running, we don't NEED the Zelda/Ninja exploit to be ported as well.
Those who have a browser, can simply use the online method. Those without a browser, simply need an exploit to begin with! It has nothing to do with having zelda/ninja as a requirement for new DS profile method to be ported.
I hope this clears everything up