Hacking [PoC] 3DS Region Changing + proof

[cearp]

*she.
Also, I've heard rumblings about GW maybe patching that on their next release, so we'll see. It's a pretty wide-reaching patch though. I'm not sure if it has any negative effects yet as I just mapped it out and patched it earlier.

I've got ideas for how to do a region change without any semblance of CFW on two fresh 9.2 systems with xorpads, too. The idea's kind of inspired by how gateway's downgrades work. The issue is that the tools for N3DS just don't exist yet. Watch this space, I guess?

those rumblings are probably from me once or twice saying that i emailed them a while ago seeing if they would patch it (unless you heard from someone else?)
thanks (sorry about the he)

 

[gamesquest1]

Well sonyUSA also hinted something along the lines that the surprise feature gateway mentioned *might* be region changing stuff, suppose it just depends on what route they take, patching the checks or just allowing people to supply their own donor files + a region change downgrade pack style route

 

[WulfyStylez]

Well sonyUSA also hinted something along the lines that the surprise feature gateway mentioned *might* be region changing stuff, suppose it just depends on what route they take, patching the checks or just allowing people to supply their own donor files + a region change downgrade pack style route

Using their already-in-place system for downgrades to do region changing would make sense, and be super easy for them to implement.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Using their already-in-place system for downgrades to do region changing would make sense, and be super easy for them to implement.

How would they deal with donor Secure_Info files though? They can't patch signature checks for SysNand, which is what the downgrade works on. And asking customers to get a file from a second 3DS sounds like a big ask.

 

[gamesquest1]

How would they deal with Donor Secure_Info files though? They can't patch signature checks for SysNand, which is what the downgrade works on. And asking customers to get a file from a second 3DS sounds like a big ask.

Preset donor files (which would likely be banned pretty much immediately from all online stuff), or allow the user to provide their own files.....I doubt they will be supporting sysnand region changing really though, too much room for error IMO, probably just as much as downgrading I suppose, but for them I don't think they care about changing sysnand as they really just care about gateway specific features rather than sysnand stuff that makes no difference to how their system works

 

[michyprima]

it would be enough to figure it out how to use the rsa engine like we did with the aes engine.

 

[WulfyStylez]

it would be enough to figure it out how to use the rsa engine like we did with the aes engine.

Wouldn't help you at all, you'd still need RSA private keys to legitimately re-sign your secureinfo.

 

[michyprima]

Wouldn't help you at all, you'd still need RSA private keys to legitimately re-sign your secureinfo.

You are right. Sorry for the noobish answer. Let's hope they fucked it up hiding it somewhere into the device itself lol

 

[yifan_lu]

You are right. Sorry for the noobish answer. Let's hope they fucked it up hiding it somewhere into the device itself lol

Snowball's chance in hell.

 

[WulfyStylez]

Just wanted to mention: New 3DS shares SecureInfo_A format with old 3DS.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Just wanted to mention: New 3DS shares SecureInfo_A format with old 3DS.

Awesome! I know this was expected but it's still great to get confirmation.

Edit: speaking of:

you can tidy up the nand by deleting the system fw titles that do not exist in your new region that you changed to. - i made a small python tool to check and find the differences, i could also make it automatically delete them for you, but that would only really work for me on mac

Any chance you'll share this? I'm on a mac as well.

 

[boomie0123]

Just wanted to mention: New 3DS shares SecureInfo_A format with old 3DS.

So then someone could buy a 2nd hand 3DS, take the SecureInfo_A format, and put it on the N3DS? That's cool that it doesn't have to be a N3DS to do the region changing. Time to sell the donor I had ready for it then!

 

[Dean_]

I have a japanese SecureInfo_A. Is there anyone who can share a USA/EUR SecureInfo_A file? Please PM me.

 

[cearp]

I have a japanese SecureInfo_A. Is there anyone who can share a USA/EUR SecureInfo_A file? Please PM me.

i have a collection of all 6 regions - but i don't think many people are going to share theirs (me included)

 

[vingt-2]

i have a collection of all 6 regions - but i don't think many people are going to share theirs (me included)

Whats about 2DS ? I don't know what's the current situation with those but if they are exploitable it might be a good cheap alternative to get a SecureInfo_A to swap an N3DS.

 

[MrJason005]

So, what's the latest progress on this?

 

[Michunio]

what about multiple consoles on the same secureinfo? they wont be able to use online features?

 

[Kracken]

So to be clear, I'm not fully up to speed after going through the last few pages.

What is important in order to be able to do a region swap is a valid SecureInfo_A from a 3DS (new or old) from the region you want?

So you can swap a US old 3DS with a JPN N3DS, in theory?

 

[MrJason005]

the idea of getting japanese game updates without searching for them in iso sites is pretty appealing...

 

[cearp]

the idea of getting japanese game updates without searching for them in iso sites is pretty appealing...

sure, i can get updates for things myself, usa/eur/jpn with my 3dses, but i understand that it is a lot faster to simply get them online, really
there is a nice baidu folder with like all the jp updates