Hacking [PoC] 3DS Region Changing + proof

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do you know if this allows different region game cart updating? or will sysNAND prevent that? that's the only reason I would use this
 

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do you know if this allows different region game cart updating? or will sysNAND prevent that? that's the only reason I would use this
It has nothing to do with sysnand/emunand. Your region changes so sure, the update on the cart would work. But I thought in emunand/GW it is tricky to update via cart?
 

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It has nothing to do with sysnand/emunand. Your region changes so sure, the update on the cart would work. But I thought in emunand/GW it is tricky to update via cart?

well it is, if I were to use a EUR rom in my US 3ds emuNAND, and the cart itself needed to update, it wont let me because of the region difference.

btw im talking about the game updates, not the firmware updates
 

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well it is, if I were to use a EUR rom in my US 3ds emuNAND, and the cart itself needed to update, it wont let me because of the region difference.

btw im talking about the game updates, not the firmware updates

so you are trying to update to a EUR cart update in emunand, it won't work because your emunand region is usa. if you had an eur emunand but a usa sysnand it would still work.
sure it is about the region difference, but you made it sound like 'sysnand was preventing it'. it's not sysnand, it's the region of the nand you are using

will it work on new 3dsll then?

when we have nand access on n3ds then yes it will work
 

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so you are trying to update to a EUR cart update in emunand, it won't work because your emunand region is usa. if you had an eur emunand but a usa sysnand it would still work.
sure it is about the region difference, but you made it sound like 'sysnand was preventing it'. it's not sysnand, it's the region of the nand you are using

nono I was asking if sysNAND would prevent it, not stating it. thanks though! your response helped
 
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he probably doesn't want to reveal anything until its released......details will more than likely be shared *soon* :lol:

I know, I did the change myself but then figured it out that the check is not patched even when booting emunand (not sure if the cfw has it patched?) so my change would break the signature and the 3ds would refuse to boot at all (this is just plain stupid, nand is already encrypted, why do you need to put signatures everywhere? -.-)
I would like to be put on the right track, not asking for the easy way. I'm new to the 3ds hacking scene, and trying to learn fast.
 

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I know, I did the change myself but then figured it out that the check is not patched even when booting emunand (not sure if the cfw has it patched?) so my change would break the signature and the 3ds would refuse to boot at all (this is just plain stupid, nand is already encrypted, why do you need to put signatures everywhere? -.-)
I would like to be put on the right track, not asking for the easy way. I'm new to the 3ds hacking scene, and trying to learn fast.
yeah, what i mean is there is more to it, and he would probably prefer to announce/release once its all thoroughly tested, and not just be beaten to the punch by someone who doesnt care for testing and just unleashes something that can potentially get people banned and/or bricked.....idk take it up with cearp, but im fairly sure he wants to make sure its all safe before he shares any details.....he doesn't want to be responsible for any of that stuff
 
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yeah, what i mean is there is more to it, and he would probably prefer to announce/release once its all thoroughly tested, and not just be beaten to the punch by someone who doesnt care for testing and just unleashes something that can potentially get people banned and/or bricked.....idk take it up with cearp, but im fairly sure he wants to make sure its all safe before he shares any details.....he doesn't want to be responsible for any of that stuff

Sure, I see your point, so I will not ask more than I already did. I will not even pm him, as it's clear he wants to follow that route.
As I said I'm new to this so I probably will not figure it out before he eventually release this, but I will keep trying.
 

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Sure, I see your point, so I will not ask more than I already did. I will not even pm him, as it's clear he wants to follow that route.
As I said I'm new to this so I probably will not figure it out before he eventually release this, but I will keep trying.
im sure he will clarify his view point here...but i have spoken with him and he did seem to want to be certain nothing bad would happen before releasing (hence him not releasing....cearp always releases stuff as long as he knows its 100% safe to do so.....not only that he is also using tools from someone else to make the process easier afaik, so he needs to wait for the go-ahead from them too

good luck anyway, but i doubt this will be too much longer, unless anything bad happens in the mean time
 
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im sure he will clarify his view point here...but i have spoken with him and he did seem to want to be certain nothing bad would happen before releasing (hence him not releasing....cearp always releases stuff as long as he knows its 100% safe to do so.....not only that he is also using tools from someone else to make the process easier afaik, so he needs to wait for the go-ahead from them too

good luck anyway, but i doubt this will be too much longer, unless anything bad happens in the mean time

Just to be clear, I'm not angry at him for not releasing info for safety! at all!

I'm just sad he didn't event bother explaining his point.

I think I just figured it out something more. for some reason I did not see that page yesterday. http://3dbrew.org/wiki/RSA_Registers

Will try to put something together.

Edit: I don't even need this (yet, n3dsJ coming) as my 3ds is EU and I'm european. I just want to do it xD
 

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Just to be clear, I'm not angry at him for not releasing info for safety! at all!

I'm just sad he didn't event bother explaining his point.

I think I just figured it out something more. for some reason I did not see that page yesterday. http://3dbrew.org/wiki/RSA_Registers

Will try to put something together.

Edit: I don't even need this (yet, n3dsJ coming) as my 3ds is EU and I'm european. I just want to do it xD
see the thing is, if you release too much info....you might as well just release the whole thing, someone will come along go...ahah, 10 mins later "my tutorial for changing regions......go on everyone be guinea pigs"

from a technical standpoint its all pretty simple....but it still needs to be properly tested to make sure people dont have it blow up in their faces
 
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see the thing is, if you release too much info....you might as well just release the whole thing, someone will come along go...ahah, 10 mins later "my tutorial for changing regions......go on everyone be guinea pigs"

lol, don't worry. I really see the danger and I will not say more if I discover the whole thing.
 
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Wow! I really need this, now I have a Japanese 3DS and almost European games are set up in english by default so I can't play in my native language. This would be great. Good work!
 

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