HD NES on pre-order for $500

[PolloDiablo]

So basically it's a PC with an NES cartridge slot running an emulator. Great.

actually no, from what I've heard... it's a cannibalized famicom

 

[the_randomizer]

No, it's an overpriced piece of plastic with salvaged hardware with an HDMI mod. Whoop dee freaking doo! Anyone who spends $500 on this deserves to be ripped off. Many people can add an HDMI mod of their own for less than $50 I'm sure. I'll be going back to play Nestopia, thank you.

 

[VMM]

No, it's an overpriced piece of plastic with salvaged hardware with an HDMI mod. Whoop dee freaking doo! Anyone who spends $500 on this deserves to be ripped off. Many people can add an HDMI mod of their own for less than $50 I'm sure. I'll be going back to play Nestopia, thank you.

Even worse than that, it doesn't have HDMI output.
It costs $500, doesn't come with any controller and you'll have to use original NES controllers
(which are already hard to find, probably most won't function properly and are naturally wired).
It doesn't use a HDMI output as I said and cost extra $50 if you want it in other color.

 

[Jockel]

Like two years ago, a properly RGB modded AV Famicom would cost about as much, so quit yer' yappin!
What changed now is that there are ways to do RGB mods without having to sacrifice a Playchoice10 (NES) arcade board for it, with even improved picture quality.
The Analogue NT also has a really slick custom made case out of Aluminium, so there's that.

These days, the best way is to get an AV Famicom for like 150$, an NESRGB board for roughly 100$ and paying someone to mod it for you (maybe also 100$?).
That's 350$ already. But that doesn't play NES games or upscales them for your HDTV. So if you were shooting for feature parity, you'd have to spend the same money again on an NES. Plus an upscaler. And a scanline generator. And you still wouldn't have these things all in a nice case.

And holy shit, you have no idea how nice it is to play Famicom games through RGB on a 240p monitor.

This product is not for you. It's for the hardcore crowd.
If you think this is outrageously expensive, you probably don't know what you're talking about.
It's reasonably priced for what it is.

 

[VMM]

Like two years ago, a properly RGB modded AV Famicom would cost about as much, so quit yer' yappin!
What changed now is that there are ways to do RGB mods without having to sacrifice a Playchoice10 (NES) arcade board for it, with even improved picture quality.
The Analogue NT also has a really slick custom made case out of Aluminium, so there's that.

These days, the best way is to get an AV Famicom for like 150$, an NESRGB board for roughly 100$ and paying someone to mod it for you (maybe also 100$?).
That's 350$ already.

And holy shit, you have no idea how nice it is to play Famicom games through RGB on a 240p monitor.

Do you think it's worth to pay that much just for NES and Famicom games?
NES was good for it time, but nowadays there are few games I consider worth playing.
If it were SNES games, I would think a bit different.

For me, what would be nice is to have something similar to this for SNES, but that would have HDMI support
and would work with WiiU Pro Controllers.
Finding functional NES and SNES controllers nowadays is getting more and more rare.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

For 500 bucks u can make a PC that can run SNES NES N64 PSX etc retro games and 4 gamepads for it, why the frick would u buy something like this even thou u can make a PC that can do even more than playing NES games? ._.

 

[codezer0]

I'd rather do the RGB to YUV mod, so I could use standard component cables if I was going to DIY it that far. I remember reading how the RGB mods even took care of the refresh rate so that the component video output will work fine on a modern HDTV.

And of course, using an XRGB-mini would also make them fantastic on the setup.

 

[VMM]

For 500 bucks u can make a PC that can run SNES NES N64 PSX etc retro games and 4 gamepads for it, why the frick would u buy something like this even thou u can make a PC that can do even more than playing NES games? ._.

 

[codezer0]

For 500 bucks u can make a PC that can run SNES NES N64 PSX etc retro games and 4 gamepads for it, why the frick would u buy something like this even thou u can make a PC that can do even more than playing NES games? ._.

Because that pc will have to be in an ugly beige box while the console could be kept nice and neat.

I know what you mean, but a lot of people put a disproportionate amount of importance on looks when it comes to what they set around their TV, since it's usually in the living room where other people are there to join in. And PC's by design tend to favor the hermit stereotype, sad as it is to say.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

And Emulating is bad..... not ;O;

Because that pc will have to be in an ugly beige box while the console could be kept nice and neat.

I know what you mean, but a lot of people put a disproportionate amount of importance on looks when it comes to what they set around their TV, since it's usually in the living room where other people are there to join in. And PC's by design tend to favor the hermit stereotype, sad as it is to say.

You can buy an iTX mobo and make a smalln'n cozy box if you want but for this i wouldn't give 500$.

 

[Jockel]

Do you think it's worth to pay that much just for NES and Famicom games?
NES was good for it time, but nowadays there are few games I consider worth playing.
If it were SNES games, I would think a bit different.

For me, what would be nice is to have something similar to this for SNES, but that would have HDMI support
and would work with WiiU Pro Controllers.
Finding functional NES and SNES controllers nowadays is getting more and more rare.

That really depends on your own taste, of course you gotta be into the NES / FC library. I can absolutely see where you're coming from, but personally, I'm extremely happy with my RGB-modded AV Famicom.
With the SNES you're in luck, you can just buy an RGB cable and find a way to hook that up to your display with pretty good results.
The NES doesn't work that way though.

At the end of the day, it really depends on how authentic you want your experience to be.
Sure, you can play these games on an emulator.
But never as good as using a real system with a real controller on a good old CRT connected through RGB.
No shitty filters, a razor sharp image, amazing colors, perfect contrast and no input lag.
Once you played like that it's like jumping to HD movies, you just can't go back.

 

[VMM]

And Emulating is bad..... not ;O;

The point isn't if emulating is good or bad.
If the people who buy Analog wanted to emulate their games,
they would be already doing this and wouldn't buy it.
Running games mean 100% compatibility.
Also, they'll be probably be using their original catridges bought decades ago.
This is a console made for collectors, people who want to have the same feeling to play their games as
when they played on a original console,
but now on a HDTV without having your games looking like shit.

 

[raulpica]

These days, the best way is to get an AV Famicom for like 150$, an NESRGB board for roughly 100$ and paying someone to mod it for you (maybe also 100$?).

I've done way more complicated soldering jobs for less than $40.

I like using the original consoles because of the classical "image" of the 80s/90s. If you mod your stuff that much, you're pretty much retaining nothing of the original console (look at how much the NESRGB replaces) and you could just attach an USB controller to your PC at that point.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

The point isn't if emulating is good or bad.
If the people who buy Analog wanted to emulate their games,
they would be already doing this and wouldn't buy it.
Running games mean 100% compatibility.
Also, they'll be probably be using their original catridges bought decades ago.
This is a console made for collectors, people who want to have the same feeling to play their games as
when they played on a original console,
but now on a HDTV without having your games looking like shit.

Great excuse, lets cash in 500$.

 

[Jockel]

I've done way more complicated soldering jobs for less than $40.

I like using the original consoles because of the classical "image" of the 80s/90s. If you mod your stuff that much, you're pretty much retaining nothing of the original console (look at how much the NESRGB replaces) and you could just attach an USB controller to your PC at that point.

I realize that people might do it for less money, it's awesome if you do it that cheap- but "professional" modding services usually charge you out of their ass.
The NESRGB retains all components of the original system, I don't know how you got that idea. You re-solder the PPU into the NESRGB and it intercepts the video / audio signal before it get's sent to conversion for FBAS.

Also, emulating stuff in 320x240 progressive is a pretty big pain in the ass, which is an even bigger pain when you try to get that to a CRT TV. And even then, it's still emulation.

 

[decemberchild]

Kind of neat I guess... not $500 neat though. For that price I would have expected it to play SNES as well at the very least.

If I had all of my Nintendo collection again, I would still prefer to play them on an older TV with the original NES systems.

Not relevant at all to the actual post, but congratulations on actually saying "would have" instead of "would of." You're the first person that I've noticed using it correctly in a long long time.

 

[VMM]

Great excuse, lets cash in 500$.

You may not see why someone would buy one of these,
or may not appreciate the feeling to play your games without input lag, with perfect compatibility and real catridges,
but the person who buys this console do, and is willing to pay $500 for that.
It's a lot of cash, but it's a collector's item, and these are usually expensive.

 

[raulpica]

I realize that people might do it for less money, it's awesome if you do it that cheap- but "professional" modding services usually charge you out of their ass.
The NESRGB retains all components of the original system, I don't know how you got that idea. You re-solder the PPU into the NESRGB and it intercepts the video / audio signal before it get's sent to conversion for FBAS.

Also, emulating stuff in 320x240 progressive is a pretty big pain in the ass, which is an even bigger pain when you try to get that to a CRT TV. And even then, it's still emulation.

The "professional" modding "scene" baffles me. Are these people really making a living over overcharging public-domain mods? Or do they just like to screw the next guy for a bit of extra cash at the end of the month?

I've looked at that, it skips part of the PPU and replaces it with more advanced parts which DIDN'T exist in the original system. You're playing on old hardware to have the genuine feeling and then you start taking some of the things which make it original out of it?

Doesn't make any sense to me, imho.

 

[the_randomizer]

Even worse than that, it doesn't have HDMI output.
It costs $500, doesn't come with any controller and you'll have to use original NES controllers
(which are already hard to find, probably most won't function properly and are naturally wired).
It doesn't use a HDMI output as I said and cost extra $50 if you want it in other color.

Well that's dumb. Overpriced consoles be damned, I'm sticking with emulators.

 

[VMM]

Not relevant at all to the actual post, but congratulations on actually saying "would have" instead of "would of." You're the first person that I've noticed using it correctly in a long long time.

Is this a thing in USA? I've never seen anyone use would of instead of would have.
I don't even see how that would fit on a sentence.