Hacking PSA: Unique Cartridge ID Sharing

[Foxi4]

They have patched 3ds games to play online. If Nintendo did it right then they will be able to block people who didn't dump their own personal copy of the game.

What you should be wondering is if Nintendo did it right or not and if they didn't then how long it will take to figure that out. But it's not like the Wii where they are limited by limitations of dvd's, the security on new game can be improved.

Once the unique id on each cartridge is signed with a strong public key then you have zero chance of avoiding a ban.

Since when is the storage medium any form of limitation? They could still improve the Wii's security by adding new checks that would only be recognized by newer firmware, DVD had nothing to do with this. Nintendo screwed up the hardware security chip and the system was blown open, that was the problem.

 

[lamentofking]

And with each theory that we post we give Nintendo more ideas lol. Seriously you all do know that they have employees that have it in their job description to look at sites such as these right?

 

[ScarletCrystals]

Hello Ninty,
If your're reading this, please get Marvelous to make a Luminous Arc game for the 3ds (and port the 3rd one). I promise I won't pirate it.
Thank you

 

[smf]

Since when is the storage medium any form of limitation? They could still improve the Wii's security by adding new checks that would only be recognized by newer firmware

DVD has very little room for each disc being different, there is the barcode but it's not really large enough to store something that is signed.

To achieve the same thing of preventing playing online unless you had your own unique id from the disc then it would have to be available for every single Wii, or you could just patch the Wii to say it was too old to read it.

With the way the Wii was designed they had no real way to lock it down again, but the 3DS is not the Wii. You're not going to get it so easy this time.

 

[BvanBart]

And with each theory that we post we give Nintendo more ideas lol. Seriously you all do know that they have employees that have it in their job description to look at sites such as these right?

Stop being a drama queen... like Nintendo is going to check every idea they post on the interwebs.

 

[Arras]

And with each theory that we post we give Nintendo more ideas lol. Seriously you all do know that they have employees that have it in their job description to look at sites such as these right?

It's not like they couldn't come up with basic things like these themselves, and if it IS something they couldn't come up with, chances are it's because the idea was that retarded.

 

[lamentofking]

Stop being a drama queen... like Nintendo is going to check every idea they post on the interwebs.

I know but there have been some good theories posted here. All we're doing is giving them ideas for the posts that they do check. Shoot if checking posts means they have a better chance at preventing their systems from being hacked and their games from being pirated they will do it. I'm sure there are enough employees that they can put several of them on duty to check the web for things. I mean that's how they are able to patch exploits right? They find out about them and then patch in a new update. I know we are talking about sharing IDs in this thread but the concept is the same.

It's not like they couldn't come up with basic things like these themselves, and if it IS something they couldn't come up with, chances are it's because the idea was that retarded.

This is true. They'd also probably have their own ideas as well.

 

[FAST6191]

If I were to don a computer/electronics security engineer hat then reading a fraction of the drivel that gets posted in public on sites like this would drive me spare. Indeed such a thing would probably be one of the few times security by obscurity would actually be demonstrably useful.
Relevant at this point

 

[smf]

And with each theory that we post we give Nintendo more ideas lol. Seriously you all do know that they have employees that have it in their job description to look at sites such as these right?

This thread only exists because Nintendo have already had the ideas. If the unique ID didn't exist then online play would have happened automatically. I think Nintendo are clever enough to learn from the PS2 DNAS workrounds, to make sure they aren't possible on the 3DS even if they can't stop local piracy.

 

[DJPlace]

we will have to wait and see. not going buy anything. i'm not going boycott anymore just 3DS and above for nintendo (looking at you WII U looking at with a glare that will cripple you and launch you in the CRIPPLE CANNON!!)

 

[redkeyboard]

I shared the ID of one of my games, I'm not worried. I find it hard to believe a company like Nintendo will actually ban someone based on something like that, given their online functionality, and the fact that I was able to play in the same server as someone also using my ID.

Plus, if they do ban the ID just get another ID, especially considering how easy they are to modify.

 

[wischmob]

Problem is, you don´t know if they just cut your current cID from online services or if they let the banhammer do a swing over your console as well. Considering that Nintendo also has those NNID´s and the hardware ID of your 3DS i´d bet it is possible. Not likely as of now, but possible.

Look at M$ and Sony, they also do bans to restrict a console´s access to online services once and for all.