I got the same cut and paste reply from Gateway about them going to test the firmware soon. This doesn't leave me hopeful since mere hours after the update went live you know they knew one way or the other if their card was working or not.
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Reminds me of what happened with the true blue dongle..when that was the "In" thing..they kept on postponing the release date til we never heard from them again..might happen here too but will see..if there is no news at the end of the month regarding this card I will just update the system and move on(The new update has issues anyway, freezing from what I hear so no point in updating now anyway)
As sad as it is, I laughed so hard at that link you made me spill tea out of my nose. Now it hurts..
Note to self: Don't Lipton while reading forum posts. A wild funny person may appear.
Anywhoo, back on topic.
Yes it does not look good for the Gateway card. But here's the thing: the new firmware update JUST got released. Yes Nintendo blocked it, what would you expect? But don't go jumping into conclusions so fast, the Gateway team haven't had time to even begin working on a workaround / compatibility with the new update.
Even IF the team fails to make the card compatible with the new firmware or any future firmwares Nintendo may release, the card supposedly still works on the old firmware. In short, you just need to NOT update the 3DS. There are still a lot of titles I want to play that the card will run, and I will probably buy it. Still cheaper than buying all those games.
I'm a poor person. So I take what I can get. Lets do some math:
If I buy 2 games it costs me 80€. The card costs me 70€ at the MOST and I can play many more. I see some profit there.
And yes you may not be able to play online. So what? Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate doesn't have online, and I want to play it. If you want to play a specific title online, BUY that title. It's as simple as that :/
I'll admit that if gateway can't work on 6.0.0 and above, it's gonna lose a bunch of sales. However, to call it vaporware just because it stops working after 6.0.0 is ridiculous. There's plenty of pre-6.0.0 games that are worth playing and if the gateway card can do that, then it'll still be worth it. While 80$ does seem a bit high at first, like Whitemaze said above, it's the price of 2 3DS games or so, so if you end up playing 20 games with it, then 80$ is nothing.
We'll have to wait and see what happens, but unlike you're new to the flashcard scene, you'd know that they don't have a long lifetime.
We'll have to wait and see what happens, but unlike you're new to the flashcard scene, you'd know that they don't have a long lifetime.
The entire ps3 scene is based on "if you go past OFW 3.55 (a firmware from nearly THREE years ago), you're screwed forever" (if you don't count downgrades via hardware flashers, which I don't think are statistically relevant).
The entire psvita scene is based on having had the luck to catch the glimpse of exploitable games appearing for a couple of hours (before being promptly removed by sony) on the PSN store.
Other scenes in the past were based for a long time on obtaining a particular retail game. I remember GTA Liberty City Stories for PSP selling for 100$ on ebay at times.
And you*'re here complaining because MAYBE the FIRST exploit you get for 3DS gaming will force you to stay on a pretty recent firmware and "ONLY" allow you to play 2 YEARS worth of retail releases, including a 2.5D mario, a 3D mario, a mario kart, a luigi's mansion, a layton, a fire emblem, the best resident evil in the last 8 years and many many more?
Could you* stop being pussies? Thanks
As I said, if you're nervous about being locked out from the eShop and future games, just buy a second 3DS.
*to be clear, "you" is generic, addressing the general concern about being stuck on fw<6.0.0
The entire psvita scene is based on having had the luck to catch the glimpse of exploitable games appearing for a couple of hours (before being promptly removed by sony) on the PSN store.
Other scenes in the past were based for a long time on obtaining a particular retail game. I remember GTA Liberty City Stories for PSP selling for 100$ on ebay at times.
And you*'re here complaining because MAYBE the FIRST exploit you get for 3DS gaming will force you to stay on a pretty recent firmware and "ONLY" allow you to play 2 YEARS worth of retail releases, including a 2.5D mario, a 3D mario, a mario kart, a luigi's mansion, a layton, a fire emblem, the best resident evil in the last 8 years and many many more?
Could you* stop being pussies? Thanks
As I said, if you're nervous about being locked out from the eShop and future games, just buy a second 3DS.
*to be clear, "you" is generic, addressing the general concern about being stuck on fw<6.0.0
Exactly Codc. Couldn't agree more.
And I'll admit that I'm sort of new to this thing, I don't have a lot of experience. But I have been using hacks and CFW's since back on the PSP. Which brings me to what GBA rocks said:
"The entire ps3 scene is based on "if you go past OFW 3.55 (a firmware from nearly THREE years ago), you're screwed forever" (if you don't count downgrades via hardware flashers, which I don't think are statistically relevant). Other scenes in the past were based for a long time on obtaining a particular retail game. I remember GTA Liberty City Stories for PSP selling for 100$ on ebay at times."
Precisely. Let's not forget this is the very FIRST 3DS rom compatible card. As soon as other developers start studying the card and even the Gateway team itself further develops their product, I believe there is bound to be new cards that will play the new titles and be compatible with the new firmwares. Again, this is just a guess, but it has happened before.
Remember the PSP Exploits like he said? Then the "Pandora Battery"? And finally they ended up releasing a tool that would hack your PSP regardless of what firmware you were on, if I'm not mistaken.
And here's the kicker: it was done by a KID. ONE PERSON. Total_Noob I believe. And shortly after, ColdBird from Team PRO also began doing their stuff and further developing the hacks. And even more astounding, it seems TN and the PRO team have now joined efforts in order to hack the Vita, something I never thought I'd see happening: http://wololo.net/2013/05/13/cold-b...nd-tn-put-differences-aside-psx-sound-coming/
So I have to say, I agree with GBA on this one. I mean you can't want EVERYTHING right off the bat just like that. Have some patience. There's even people that complain about the fact that the card needs 1 MicroSD per game. Seriously? This is your problem? Dear lord.
One final thing. As it was previously said on this thread before, many of us that buy these cards and hacks are also big consumers. More often than not, I download a game, try it, and if I like it, I buy it as soon as I can. So I can fully enjoy the game and its online features and whatnot.
What would be funny is if Nintendo made it that any new games coming out would have to have the latest firmware to play. They could even include it in the game so it would auto patch when first played. This would keep their systems more software reliable.
It can happen. Not denying that.
What I'm saying is even IF that happens, why so much pessimism? I don't know much about hacking, I'll admit that, but why exactly can't this have a workaround as well? We've seen it countless times before.
What? They can't (or at least haven't and won't) force you to update the cartridge without manual consent each time.
Don't they do that anyway? At least for the big titles. I doubt they'd have it automatically patch, though.
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I still think the price is too high and if it doesn't work on 6.0 thats even worse, gateway will lose sales and everyone will always find something to complain about anyways.
I still think the price is too high and if it doesn't work on 6.0 thats even worse, gateway will lose sales and everyone will always find something to complain about anyways.
We don't know that for sure. We don't know anything about Gateway. For all we know, they'll have an update for the Gateway by the time it's released. Highly unlikely, but it can happen.
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Even IF the gateway team can't find a workaround (which i bet they do have one or can find one) i'm sure those like me that don't update and use the cart will soon realize that if a game requires a higher firmware a lot of times there are patches created for the roms to fix that issue. History tells us it's possible. (i.e ps3, psp)
I would imagine the financial implications will be the main bug bear of the gateway team should they have to fix the card due to the upgrade , having shelled out for production already i would imagine.
I have noticed that every time I switch on my 3DS (even with wifi off), the update message appears. I garher that it is the offline update. Need to be very careful not to push "A" then
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LOL
but nintendo have private keys that only they have and sign with
and the Firmware updates are REQUIRED by the Game
Sony updates are only needed to access the PSN and change the console very little
you could not have a game like Animal Crossing run on a 3DS running 1.0.0 3DS firmware because the games use parts of the firmware such as the friends list which wasnt in the origional firmware
or New Super Mario Bros 2 which the update 4.1.0 because of the main menu E-shop integration
see the difference
Nintendo could even change the save encryption key so that if something like this even happened the console wouldnt know the new key and you would have no saves
(Nintendo have already changed the key once)
the console HAS to have the firmware for the games to work
Sony games dont
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