Nintendo Direct 17th May 2013

[beta4attack]

It was crap. a new Mario game, another stupid sports game and another pikman game. Absolutely nothing that wants me to keep this WiiU.
Looks like I'll be selling it really soon as its already dead. There is nothing coming for it so why keep a dead console.
Dead as no games, its working perfectly but I never turn it on so I might as well sell it while its still worth something.

Okay, you might as well sell it now and just cry from regret when the E3 Direct reveals megatons. I mean, really? This one was just a filler for the games they won't bother talk about in the E3 Direct so they can save time on bigger stuff. I mean, the whole Direct was like... 20 minutes?

No one hyped for the new Sonic game?

That artwork... it is gorgeous.

Plus, if that is the new overworld for the game (it obviously seems like it), it means that Lost World may include some form of stage editing or the like.

Seriously? No one?

Actually, I am! I'm actually sold on this before even seeing any footage. I've missed on Generations, so I really need my Sonic fix! And what's better than getting one on the Wii U to support 3rd parties? XD

 

[broitsak]

I should stop getting so hyped over these >_<

 

[beta4attack]

I should stop getting so hyped over these >_<

You should get hyped for the next one, though Like I said, this is just a filler to make some space for the E3 Direct.

 

[Eerpow]

You should get hyped for the next one, though Like I said, this is just a filler to make some space for the E3 Direct.

Good point, now they don't have to bother talking about it once E3 arrives. Thought it was just a pointless Direct at first.

 

[chartube12]

Why would anyone be excited for a new 3d sonic adventure game? Heroes was crappy. Unleashes normal sonic levels were hell (yes I loved the werehog levels) and shadow's game was poorly executed.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Why would anyone be excited for a new 3d sonic adventure game? Heroes was crappy. Unleashes normal sonic levels were hell (yes I loved the werehog levels) and shadow's game was poorly executed.

I'm guessing you didn't play Colors or Generations? Those games are mostly universally considered to be 3D Sonic's triumphant return.

 

[chartube12]

I'm guessing you didn't play Colors or Generations? Those games are mostly universally considered to be 3D Sonic's triumphant return.

First, Generation isn't a 3d adventure game. And I have played it a little.

2nd, yup I have not played colors. my wii is collection dust bunnies.

3rd. Mr. M said the new game is a 3D adventure game. Not a platformer.

 

[broitsak]

Why would anyone be excited for a new 3d sonic adventure game? Heroes was crappy. Unleashes normal sonic levels were hell (yes I loved the werehog levels) and shadow's game was poorly executed.

Does it have any screenshots?

And why wouldn't anybody be excited for a new 3D sonic game? What if this is going to be the best ever?

 

[Forstride]

I'd rather not judge a game based on a vague teaser image with no additional details. It could be another Sonic '06 for all we know, or it could be a great game like Sonic Colors.

 

[Gahars]

And why wouldn't anybody be excited for a new 3D sonic game? What if this is going to be the best ever?

new 3D sonic game

I think you answered your own question.

 

[broitsak]

I think you answered your own question.

I see what you did there.

I completely missed the two posts above my previous post.

Colors was a good game, I haven't tried Generations though.

 

[Gahars]

Colors was a good game, I haven't tried Generations though.

I think the quality of Colors, and Generations as well, has been greatly exaggerated. They're not awful games by any means, but the Sonic franchise has lowered the bar so much that merely decent games seem like revelations in comparison to what's come before them. It's not hard to look good when you're standing next to Sonic 06.

The amount of bad Sonic games (okay, to be nice, I'll stick with just the 3D titles) outweighs the good ones. Colors and Generations might have been positive steps, but it's going to take a lot more than that to make up for the many failures.

 

[JulietStMoon]

I think the quality of Colors, and Generations as well, has been greatly exaggerated. They're not awful games by any means, but the Sonic franchise has lowered the bar so much that merely decent games seem like revelations in comparison to what's come before them. It's not hard to look good when you're standing next to Sonic 06.

The amount of bad Sonic games (okay, to be nice, I'll stick with just the 3D titles) outweighs the good ones. Colors and Generations might have been positive steps, but it's going to take a lot more than that to make up for the many failures.

Fair enough, and I agree to an extent. All I was trying to point out is that it's kind of ridiculous to ask "why would anyone be excited for a 3D Sonic game," citing all the bad ones, while on the other hand, most people who played the most recent two games thought they were at least decent, as you say. Of course the Sonic fanbase is going to be excited, especially now that Sega is starting to win back faith that they can pull off a 3D Sonic game at least decently.

Also, what do you mean by 'make up for the many failures'? Last I checked, a good game was a good game, and the "ratio" of previous bad games to good games didn't factor into that judgment.

 

[SSVAV]

You forget that Nintendo and Sega are in it together.

Nintendo is the more experienced developer of platform games, and I think that their help (if they are helping) will be of great aid to the Sonic franchise. As Mario and Sonic have taken quite different paths, they do not compete with each other as violently like they did in the past, and thus this partnership is great news for Sega fans.

Colours was more of an experiment, developed for the cheapest console to make games for. They couldn't risk big on Colours. Turned out it was good, in its own way. It wasn't perfect, but was an evolution for a series that has long searched for its right place.

So it is highly unlikely this one will be like Sonic Adventure because SA's gameplay was unrefined in general: moving in a 3D space at high speeds is very tricky on a platformer. The new Sonic gameplay may take away from it's sandbox nature, but Mario has also taken this path as many of Galaxy's levels follow a predetermined path, unlike SM64 where levels were open areas with a specific objective in mind.

Overall the Sonic franchise hit an all-time low with Sonic 06, murdered by deadlines and bad gameplay. But with each new game the series comes closer to being it's own game, one that I enjoy and love. I can't wait.

 

[ForteGospel]

that world map looked like a ball... SONIC GALAXY in coming!

 

[JulietStMoon]

that world map looked like a ball... SONIC GALAXY in coming!

I'm surprised no one has said this until now.

 

[Bladexdsl]

I'm surprised no one has said this until now.

they did

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I just found out (I missed the direct), and I'm really excited. Will be nice to see a new good Sonic game. Generations was a giant leap in the right direction in a lot of ways, but it didn't feel much like a "full" proper Sonic since it was so short.

I've never been hyped for a Sonic game. I've never tried colors, but I enjoyed Generations quite a bit. It was a bit "busy" if that makes sense, but the gameplay was fun and it was very much playable and enjoyable. I don't like being timed and getting "A's" or anything, or the red stars, I'd prefer if those were left out, but I'm a little bit excited for the Sonic games to come. Sega has been improving lately, so I'm curious as to how they will do it.

 

[weavile001]

I've never been hyped for a Sonic game. I've never tried colors, but I enjoyed Generations quite a bit. It was a bit "busy" if that makes sense, but the gameplay was fun and it was very much playable and enjoyable. I don't like being timed and getting "A's" or anything, or the red stars, I'd prefer if those were left out, but I'm a little bit excited for the Sonic games to come. Sega has been improving lately, so I'm curious as to how they will do it.

The best I can get is B rank.......
Also, I bet this new sonic game is related to galaxy, because the planet seems to be tiny and it has strange colors.

 

[hhs]

I gotta admit that was pretty much the worst Nintendo Direct I've ever seen. Others may have slipped my radar and dodged the title but this one sure didn't.

I don't care about a glorified Mario reskin for a game I had no intention of ever buying. I don't care about cell phone games like ninja jump that take you out of the game by reminding you that you're in your living room constantly and need to exit the tv. I respect Pikmin, enough that I played the first one, but there's no upgrade with the 2nd or 3rd release. It still looks and probably plays like a gamecube game. I'm not sure how many more hours I'm willing to dedicate to waiting for an AI to carry a number block from point A to point B.

Nintendo is bringing out the heavy hitters for E3 and I get that but it makes me ask why they even had this Direct at all when they had nothing to show for it. We know Smash, Zelda and Pokemon are coming but Nintendo needs to bring in something fresh and sustainable. Pumping out stupid little flash games and reskins, retreads of middling IPs aren't going to help with more than a sugar crash. A new IP like Retro's version of Metroid that appeals to older players would be nice.

If one of their best and best selling franchises (we'll use Zelda) is being outsold by a franchise that was only born this very generation Nintendo is doing something terribly wrong. Since the launch of Mass Effect (10.2 million combined), Zelda (bringing in 9.9 million combined). Their biggest game of that timeframe (Skyward) barely outsold the first Mass Effect game (completely lacking in brand recognition). I'm not going to argue over quality with fan boys from either aisle but it illustrates pretty clearly that Nintendo could afford to put a new IP towards older game demographics. They're neglect is getting overshadowed by upstarts so easily.