Wii x Vita

[heartgold]

It's close to ps360 graphics, but it seems it lacks anti-aliasing and is in a low-resolution just like the Wii. Still pretty good though, definetely what the Wii should have been in its time

Close to x360? What...

They look closer to original xbox level. Nothing's really that impressive to push it to current gen those screenshots. They are rendering at low res too.

 

[heartgold]

I never thought that I'll hear the "It has gaems" argument in reference to the Wii, even on GBAtemp. It has a handful of good games, let's underline that with a very thick marker, mmm-kay? There's not a whole lot of'em among the shovelware and even then, most are first-party. Don't get me wrong, I have a Wii and I love it to bits - it's the console that gave me freaking No More Heroes but that doesn't change the fact that the list of titles of interest is quite short.

Vita is the problem.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

If you like platformers, you get the Wii.

If you like anything else, you buy another console.

 

[Issac]

I never thought that I'll hear the "It has gaems" argument in reference to the Wii, even on GBAtemp. It has a handful of good games, let's underline that with a very thick marker, mmm-kay? There's not a whole lot of'em among the shovelware and even then, most are first-party. Don't get me wrong, I have a Wii and I love it to bits - it's the console that gave me freaking No More Heroes but that doesn't change the fact that the list of titles worth some interest is quite short.

As for Vita's AA and resolution, they're both just fine. I don't know why screen shots look like this on the PC - it's either the built-in screen shot app being derpy or the OLED screen being amazing, but you can't see the jaggies on the system very often.

At least a part of it all is that these screenshots are... not moving. In motion, most games look better. Another thing is that the OLED screen IS amazing, and by that I meant the pixel density. Just like the retina display on iProducts, having smaller "pixels" makes for example jaggies harder to see etc.
My computer screen show around 94 pixels per inch, and the Vita show around 220 pixels per inch. That's more than twice the data in one single inch. That's why screenshots looks so bad compared to the actual hardware

 

[Foxi4]

At least a part of it all is that these screenshots are... not moving. In motion, most games look better. Another thing is that the OLED screen IS amazing, and by that I meant the pixel density. Just like the retina display on iProducts, having smaller "pixels" makes for example jaggies harder to see etc.
My computer screen show around 94 pixels per inch, and the Vita show around 220 pixels per inch. That's more than twice the data in one single inch. That's why screenshots looks so bad compared to the actual hardware

Obviously you're right, yeah - smaller screen more densly-populated by pixels = smoother graphics. My point was that in a lot of cases, Vita games don't have/don't have a lot of AA because they sincerely don't need any on the device itself, which is on what they're played anyways.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Vita games look infinitely better in motion and on the Vita.

Not to mention that these screenshots aren't touched up or the like of most official screenshot releases.

 

[heartgold]

Obviously you're right, yeah - smaller screen more densly-populated by pixels = smoother graphics. My point was that in a lot of cases, Vita games don't have/don't have a lot of AA because they sincerely don't need any on the device itself, which is on what they're played anyways.

Same reason why quite a few of 3DS games have unattractive jaggies on the PC screenshots, but looks completely sexy on the 3DS screen. Not nearly as worse though.

 

[GameWinner]

I hate saying it but the Wii.
It can be hacked and has more games than the Vita right now.
Also Gamecube games on the Wii is a plus.
P.S. Those screens do no justice for the Vita's amazing OLED screen.

 

[slingblade1170]

Hell, I think the 3DS looks just as good and sometimes better than the Wii. I would say the Vita looks better but it doesn't matter the Wii is great.

 

[Andim]

I never thought that I'll hear the "It has gaems" argument in reference to the Wii, even on GBAtemp. It has a handful of good games, let's underline that with a very thick marker, mmm-kay? There's not a whole lot of'em among the shovelware and even then, most are first-party. Don't get me wrong, I have a Wii and I love it to bits - it's the console that gave me freaking No More Heroes but that doesn't change the fact that the list of titles worth some interest is quite short.

Klonoa
Xenoblade Chronicles
Mario Galaxy 1&2
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
No More Heroes 1 and 2
House of the Dead Overkill
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Zak and Wiki
New Super Mario bros Wii
Sin and Punishment 2
Kirby's Return to Dreamland
Punch Out
Rune Factory Frontier
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom
Super Paper Mario
Silent Hill Shattered Memories
Fatal Frame 4
Sonic Colors
All 4 Wii REvil games
Mario Kart Wii
Monster Hunter Tri
Madworld
Little King's Story
Prince of Persia: Forgotten Sands
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Red Steel 2
Skyward Sword
Warioware Smooth Moves
Warioland Shake it
The Last Story
Trauma Center Second Opinion & New Blood
Trauma Team
Pikmin 1&2
A Boy and His Blob
Lost in Shadow
Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon
Rhythm Heaven: Fever
Blastworks
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Elebits
Ivy the Kiwi
bit.trip
Castlevania: The Adventire ReBirth
Contra ReBirth
Fluidity
Lost Winds 1&2
Megaman 9&10

 

[RodrigoDavy]

You're correct but it's worth noting that most Vita games run at a sub-native resolution effectively making the high-res screen kind of pointless. But yeah, Vita games do look better mostly because of shaders (kind of like how Revelations on the 3DS looks closer to a PS360 game than any Wii game thanks to dem shaders).

I thought handheld games were supposed to run at the screen's resolution (I mean it's not like home consoles where you can have multiple types of tvs)
Sub-native resolution means lower resolution or is something more complex than that?

 

[Maxternal]

Spoiler

Klonoa
Xenoblade Chronicles
Mario Galaxy 1&2
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
No More Heroes 1 and 2
House of the Dead Overkill
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Zak and Wiki
New Super Mario bros Wii
Sin and Punishment 2
Kirby's Return to Dreamland
Punch Out
Rune Factory Frontier
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom
Super Paper Mario
Silent Hill Shattered Memories
Fatal Frame 4
Sonic Colors
All 4 Wii REvil games
Mario Kart Wii
Monster Hunter Tri
Madworld
Little King's Story
Prince of Persia: Forgotten Sands
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Red Steel 2
Skyward Sword
Warioware Smooth Moves
Warioland Shake it
The Last Story
Trauma Center Second Opinion & New Blood
Trauma Team
Pikmin 1&2
A Boy and His Blob
Lost in Shadow
Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon
Rhythm Heaven: Fever
Blastworks
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Elebits
Ivy the Kiwi
bit.trip
Castlevania: The Adventire ReBirth
Contra ReBirth
Fluidity
Lost Winds 1&2
Megaman 9&10

I have a new shopping list now.

 

[Foxi4]

*a list on entirely debatable titles*

Don't lecture me on the Wii's library, I've had a Wii for quite some time now, I'm familiar with the library. What's good for you isn't necessarily good for everybody else. That said, I did enjoy a lot of titles you mention. It's a short list nonetheless though, considering how long the life cycle of this console was. What you consider a long list I consider to be a handful.

 

[heartgold]

I thought handheld games were supposed to run at the screen's resolution (I mean it's not like home consoles where you can have multiple types of tvs)
Sub-native resolution means lower resolution or is something more complex than that?

 

[Andim]

Don't lecture me on the Wii's library, I've had a Wii for quite some time now, I'm familiar with the library. What's good for you isn't necessarily good for everybody else. That said, I did enjoy a lot of titles you mention. It's a short list none the less though, considering how long the life cycle of this console was. What you consider a long list I consider to be a handful.

My my, how ironic. if you tell a prospective owner that it has no games, you are fully entitled to that opinion, and are quite possible correct. If i show you games, it's just my dumb opinion and not everyone should agree with me so I should stop "lecturing" you.

Backpedaling

Though now that I think about it, isn't this topic about Vita vs. Wii? How then, is the Wii's own lifecycle relevant? It has what it has. The Vita also has what it has, and it has far less.

 

[Foxi4]

Though now that I think about it, isn't this topic about Vita vs. Wii? How then, is the Wii's own lifecycle relevant? It has what it has. The Vita also has what it has, and it has far less.

It's quite crucial, actually. The Wii has been on the market for years, the Vita has been on the market for a year, do you see a slight difference here?

This is as if I started a PS2 versus Wii discussion and argued that you should go out right away and get a PS2 because it has more quality games than the Wii - what, it does! The fact that it was on the market longer doesn't matter, right?

Get off your high horse - I actually enjoy the Wii. I don't get why you're agressive all of a sudden, the console has a short list of good titles compared to its competition, deal with it. Also, I don't think you know what "ironic" means.

 

[Andim]

This is as if I started a PS2 versus Wii discussion and argued that you should go out right away and get a PS2 because it has more quality games than the Wii - what, it does!

Why yes, it does!

The fact that it was on the market longer doesn't matter, right?

Why no, it doesn't. I wholeheartedly urge anyone who doesn't own a PS2 to buy one immediately, before you consider any other consoles. Similar deal with the original DS.

You've yet to explain why age of a console negates the size of its library. Are we, in comparing the Wii and Vita, anticipating a rich future full of new games for the Vita?
But wait no, how can we be? because we also compared the PS2 and Wii, and blamed the PS2's library on its age, even though the Wii isn't getting any more games.

And as far as the Vita's future library goes, that's a bit of a... variable, to say the least.

 

[Foxi4]

And as far as the Vita's future library goes, that's a bit of a... variable, to say the least.

The PSVita has a 10-year life expectancy, I'm willing to wager it will get more good games with time. I didn't mean to "offend" you, I simply think that the Wii has a rather short library of appealing games - it's very subjective, some people can have one game and that one game validated buying the system. Hell, I'd know, I bought a Dreamcast specifically to play Sonic Adventure.

At the end of the day, it depends on the buyer and the buyer alone.

 

[weavile001]

Why yes, it does!

Why no, it doesn't. I wholeheartedly urge anyone who doesn't own a PS2 to buy one immediately, before you consider any other consoles. Similar deal with the original DS.

You've yet to explain why age of a console negates the size of its library. Are we, in comparing the Wii and Vita, anticipating a rich future full of new games for the Vita?
But wait no, how can we be? because we also compared the PS2 and Wii, and blamed the PS2's library on its age, even though the Wii isn't getting any more games.

And as far as the Vita's future library goes, that's a bit of a... variable, to say the least.

theres a new disney game coming for every console, including wii.

 

[Andim]

The PSVita has a 10-year life expectancy

Always trust Kazuo Hirai. Always.