Hacking 3DS Hack: "We hacked it"

[Chary]

Commence the asking of where to find the roms...

 

[Dr Pikachu]

you can boot the game.. and you can never change the romitself on a original car...its a rom.. read only memory...
to say you need to right... therefor its a different chip...clearly you don't understand this

You said there were two chips. There are 3. The thing neither of you seem to understand is the fact that the modified game save would be on the sd. The cartridge boots from itself. Both of you need to understand that.

 

[VinvinMario]

Edit: Quote tag was weird and didn't work.

 

[nukeboy95]

I actually happen to have taken the cartridge apart. There are three chips actually.

NOPE

 

[igivenup]

Cant wait playing 3DS roms, hope it's ture

Same here~!

Ill be downloading so many 3DS games. For those or you saying you don't enjoy piracy the majority of you flashcart owners most likely have pirated games using that device. In all honestly that's what the majority of people who bought those devices are doing.

Emulation will be fun.

 

[Dr Pikachu]

NOPE

Sucks to be wrong doesn't it?

Spoiler

 

[nukeboy95]

Same here~!

Ill be downloading so many 3DS games. For those or you saying you don't enjoy piracy the majority of you flashcart owners most likely have pirated games using that device. In all honestly that's what the majority of people who bought those devices are doing.

Emulation will be fun.

1. bootloater take time to make
2. untill then they might be fakes

3. No need to pirate.
   We here on GBATemp don't condone in piracy.

 

[pro2oman]

lol

NOPE

lol thank you..

reading a save off sd or memory on cart itself is ..is basically memory card a or memory card b.... only memory card a is soldered in can can't be removed...
the save can be overwritten...same as the twilight hack... the point where this goes wrong is that hack.. .thats the dam goal here!!

 

[nukeboy95]

Sucks to be wrong doesn't it?

im not wrong
it might be a diff. gane

 

[Foxi4]

DrPikachu, you cannot recode a retail game to do anything - there is a reason why we call the chips they are stored on ROM - Read Only Memory. The game has to already have an exploitable feature in it - you can't just put it in. Not to mention that games are encrypted - modifying any section with no way of re-encrypting would make the game unbootable. The only thing that can be modified is a save file, which unlike the ROM image can be overwritten. You then add specific data into the save file that is meant to crash the system in such a way that the data will go straight to the section of memory which is concerned with the binary - this data is the code you wish to execute. If you are lucky enough, you skip past the key comparison stage and boot the code and the CPU doesn't know any better unless there is a hypervisor in place. This has nothing to do with ROM hacking at all - ROM hacking can only be performed on dumped ROM images or via live patching of data within memory while the system runs - you cannot overwrite a ROM on a cartridge.

 

[VMM]

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Cartridge games boot themselves. The Wii/PSP boot from an external memory source or system memory. Where the save is does matter. If you had half the education most romhackers you would know that. Let's say your argument that modifying the cartridge game save would work. How do you plan on booting it through the sd? Precisely, it can't and won't. The wii homebrew channel had its game save on the system memory/external memory. That is what it boots from. Do you know what the difference is? Quite simple really. It means it can actually boot the modified save. The 3DS cannot. Learn what you're talking about before trying argue.

I guess you're the one who does not know what you're talking about.
The save game boots trough the game, simple as that.

You've been talking about coding all the time, but the impression you give me is that you doesn't have a clue abou that

Have you heard about Neimod?
He have done this:

Take a good look and see if you can find what's wrong?
No, it's not the pink 3ds, although it's funny and strange at the same time.

The real problem with this picture is the quantity of points he has in that part of the game.
This is almost the beginning of the game, and this quantity of points could never be achieved at that moment.

He have Hex Editing the save, and then reinserting it.
The save "boots", because the game loads it, simple as that.

With an exploit, that would be similar,
he would Hex edit the save, and insert the modified save on the catridge,
the game would load the save at certain part,
then "booting" the exploit which is part of the save.

Simple as that, do you understand now?
Do you understand now that it has nothing to do with where the save is?

 

[Dr Pikachu]

lol
lol thank you..

reading a save off sd or memory on cart itself is ..is basically memory card a or memory card b.... only memory card a is soldered in can can't be removed...
the save can be overwritten...same as the twilight hack... the pint where this goes wrong is that hack.. .thats the dam goal here!!

Problem with the idea however is that the games do not include such an ability otherwise romhackers would be able to directly modify things such as sprites and maps. Which they can't. Cartridges boot themselves, not from an sd.

 

[Dr Pikachu]

I guess you're the one who does not know what you're talking about.
The save game boots trough the game, simple as that.

You've been talking about coding all the time, but the impression you give me is that you doesn't have a clue abou that

Have you heard about Neimod?
He have done this:

Take a good look and see if you can find what's wrong?
No, it's not the pink 3ds, although it's funny and strange at the same time.

The real problem with this picture is the quantity of points he has in that part of the game.
This is almost the beginning of the game, and this quantity of points could never be achieved at that moment.

He have Hex Editing the save, and then reinserting it.
The save "boots", because the game loads it, simple as that.

With an exploit, that would be similar,
he would Hex edit the save, and insert the modified save on the catridge,
the game would load the save at certain part,
then "booting" the exploit which is part of the save.

Simple as that, do you understand now?
Do you understand now that it has nothing to do with where the save is?

Hence using an AR. Completely different.

 

[pro2oman]

save is not the rom.... what where talking about here.. is the that same as your wii twilight hack.. end of story

 

[nukeboy95]

only memory card a is soldered in can can't be removed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desoldering

 

[nukeboy95]

Hence using an AR. Completely different.

there is no ar for 3ds games

 

[Dr Pikachu]

save is not the rom.... what where talking about here.. is the that same as your wii twilight hack.. end of story

The rom itself is on the cartridge as is the save. It boots from itself. The Twilight hack boots from an external/internal memory from the host, not the game itself.

 

[pro2oman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desoldering

valid point... but that wasn't the idea of the post.

 

[Dr Pikachu]

there is no ar for 3ds games

DSi Action Replay is actually reported to work on the 3DS.

 

[pro2oman]

The rom itself is on the cartridge as is the save. It boots from itself. The Twilight hack boots from an external/internal memory from the host, not the game itself.

same on 3ds it boots the game... the rom.. then reads the save... like a wii....but from it internal memory on the cart...