Romney vs. Obama

[LightyKD]

Had to share this picture!

 

[LightyKD]

As I watched the debates on my Xbox 360 a poll popped up and said, "Have you already decided who you want to vote for?"****While I am leaning towards one side I thought to myself... "not really... I mean I am watching these debates and if the other party rocks my brain I would consider changing sides."

To my surprise the results were something along the lines of 90% already KNEW who they were going to vote for. And then the next question was, " who would YOU vote for" with around 83% saying Obama.

Myself...I am an Atheist Republican...man if feels sooo good to say that blanketed by the anonymity of the internet! The sad thing about Romney's 47% mark that I don't know the real percentage not including the old and the vets but what I do know for a FACT is that the welfare system is greatly being misused and taken advantage of by a crap load of free loaders. The media and liberals want to paint a picture where those freeloaders HAVE to be black as joked in the video posted earlier but where I live (98% white) I would say 60% are on food stamps. My wife who is a manager at a grocery store watches as these people come in and fill 3 ... READ that again THREE carts to the brim. Some with steak and lobster, some with a whole cart full of soda, some with a whole cart of little Debbie, some with super expensive MONSTER energy drinks. Then they expoloit thier cards to get money for beer and smokes. We have lived in states like Illinois, Florida, and now our current red state and this crap is rampant all over...all except when we lived in Seattle....and I will get to that in a moment. I don't blame the free loaders, kudos to them for grabbing what our government is making it easy for them to get.

In Seattle it was not so bad because to get that tasty food stamp money you had to a) be employed with a low paying job or b) go to an office an sit and look for jobs. This cuts back on people getting paid under the table to qualify for low income and stops people from sitting at home and watching their shows and just waiting for that check/card to come in from uncle sam....and why isn't drug tested regulated across the board to accept food stamps. So many apparent drug addicts coming in to fill their several shopping carts...on my dime is mind boggling.

The funny thing is the media bashes Romney because his dad was on welfare...welfare is a decent thing but like myself and Romney's dad it was a appreciative crutch to move on to BETTER things not just live off the system. Not have MORE kids while on welfare to get more money. And why are we cutting our budget on WIC yet aiding more to food stamps? WIC is great...awesome...if you’re not on WIC.

WIC forces you to eat healthy, forces you to get specific cheese, milk, juice. No Kraft cheese for you, house brand cheese only! Healthy and cost effective. Why aren't we making food stamps more like this, give hands outs but make it inconvenient and ... not so damn tasty.
Google food stamp costs under Obama's administration and the amount spent is astounding! Now if Obama said he was going to launch ObamaMart....where welfare people could get their cheap food produced in America and to do this he would have to open factories which would create jobs...warehouse, it jobs, truck drivers, receptionist....he would have me leaning towards his ticket in a heartbeat. Sure that certain percent would flip...I have to go from eating steak and ribs to terrible mac and cheese?" They would be in an uproar. Now fyi they did recently (a month ago) block Monster drinks from food stamps so it is possible to still regulate how MY money feeds the poor but nobody is actually doing this.


The thing is I am open minded....feed the poor but don't make it easy for em. Don't take my guns but...maybe regulate my bullets like in California and a certain city in Illinois...I am not happy with these ideas but I am open to them so if a party were to make some sort of plan that could meet a common middle ground I ... and very few others ... would be open ears. But when 90% watch the debate and already know who they are voting for common sense gets pushed out of the way and you have to go with the most extreme side that hits closest to home.

And just for kicks

I resent what you say about what people on food stamps put in their carts. What business is it of yous if people are putting steak and lobsters in their carts? BTW steak isn't that expensive. I highly doubt that people in need of their EBT cards are filling their shopping carts with the best cuts of meat. Where the fuck do you get off judging people?! How about you put yourself in their shoes. Try having to feed yourself with a EBT card and then come back to us. I'm sick and tired of the right trying to create this damn image of a "welfare mama" with no fucking idea of what it's truly like to have to need food assistance.

 

[gage astronomer]

Try having to feed yourself with a EBT card and then come back to us.

The funny thing is the media bashes Romney because his dad was on welfare...welfare is a decent thing but like myself and Romney's dad it was a appreciative crutch to move on to BETTER things not just live off the system.

Was on foodstamps for 2 months in Chicago
I know...I know...I truley did not walk in their shoes ... to do such would mean I would have to live off the system for a year or two...but I got myself an idea of how the process works.

When you grow up and start paying taxes you will understand how a cart full of steaks is your buisness when it is your tax dollars that pay for that steak. Food from my mouth to those that don't even want to work.

Stop and seperate those that are using the system from its intended purpose to those who just exploit an easy way of life.

When you have not worked in 8 months, have not looked for a job in 12, and as long as I pay MY taxes I should be able to express my concern over where MY dollars go to.

 

[Jakob95]

I know lots of people that are on welfare or unemployement that are rich. They are just "legally unemployed" they work in businesses and make cash instead of check so they don't have to pay taxes and so the government doesn't know that they have a job. Pretty smart actually, lots of my best friends went to college like that because they got financial aid for the whole thing, while there Dad's own a Benz, and a house here in NYC. And then I know some people who own small businesses like Jewlery stores, or barber shops and they make a fortune and for there tax's they write that they only make $30 grand a year so they don't have to pay a lot of taxes since they make cash.

 

[LightyKD]

Try having to feed yourself with a EBT card and then come back to us.

The funny thing is the media bashes Romney because his dad was on welfare...welfare is a decent thing but like myself and Romney's dad it was a appreciative crutch to move on to BETTER things not just live off the system.

Was on foodstamps for 2 months in Chicago
I know...I know...I truley did not walk in their shoes ... to do such would mean I would have to live off the system for a year or two...but I got myself an idea of how the process works.

When you grow up and start paying taxes you will understand how a cart full of steaks is your buisness when it is your tax dollars that pay for that steak. Food from my mouth to those that don't even want to work.

Stop and seperate those that are using the system from its intended purpose to those who just exploit an easy way of life.

When you have not worked in 8 months, have not looked for a job in 12, and as long as I pay MY taxes I should be able to express my concern over where MY dollars go to.

LMFAO When I grow up and pay taxes??? I'm a 27 year old married man. I know what it's like to live from paycheck to paycheck doing what you can to get by. You just like the rest of the Right Wing have absolutely no clue what it's like for most Americans to have to struggle. You and Romney and that "47% attitude". I swear, November cant get here fast enough. The republican party needs to grow the fuck up, come into the 21st century an find a fucking human heart!

 

[geishroy]

Atheist Republican

tl;dr after this

i haz a pair of these i warez

 

[gage astronomer]

LMFAO When I grow up and pay taxes??? I'm a 27 year old married man. I know what it's like to live from paycheck to paycheck doing what you can to get by.

The republican party needs to grow the fuck up, come into the 21st century an find a fucking human heart!

I apologize for assuming you were not of age to pay your taxes yet…it just baffles me how someone is okay to live paycheck to paycheck and know there are those out there like Jakob95 talk about exploiting the system…and somehow just okay with it…

I do like you’re so willing to jump to say I have no heart…my desire is not to cut welfare and food stamps, just reform it so that way honest middle class people can survive…and just to clarify while I am currently retired and living off MY savings from a bit of hard work my wife is well below the 40k yearly range and I have two kids. I believe that we can lower the taxes and help the WORKING middle class and while you might say I am heartless all I want is for everyone to contribute to the pot…a lot like GBAtemp….those that know me, know I helped with those day 1 releases ya’ll love soooo much even on the games I did not want. Why? Because I was appreciative of the hard work those behind the scenes did for me and I wanted to give back rather than just being a moocher.

As far as the atheist republican thing goes…
It is quite simple
I believe in the death penalty, I believe we should work for what we call ours, I believe in right protect my family with my guns… but since I am an atheist I am also prochoice, and have no feelings towards gay marriage, while I do want to protect the environment … I do want to tap that pipe in Alaska. While I don’t do drugs I do think we should legalize pot and tax the hell out of it… and while I do not pay for sex think we should legalize, regulate, and tax the hell out of prostitution. I also support what other countries call a luxury tax… that is for instance the boat I just purchased. In other countries where they don’t tax the hell out of your income they would tax the hell out of my purchase and anything similar. This gives people the opportunity to make their money and save it for retirement or what not and are only then penalized for wasteful spending.
While I usually lurk as I am too busy these days being a Dad…I felt like venting…I will probably go back to lurking as my daughter has called for my attention twice now…but you all have a good one 

 

[LightyKD]

LMFAO When I grow up and pay taxes??? I'm a 27 year old married man. I know what it's like to live from paycheck to paycheck doing what you can to get by.

The republican party needs to grow the fuck up, come into the 21st century an find a fucking human heart!

I apologize for assuming you were not of age to pay your taxes yet…it just baffles me how someone is okay to live paycheck to paycheck and know there are those out there like Jakob95 talk about exploiting the system…and somehow just okay with it…

I do like you’re so willing to jump to say I have no heart…my desire is not to cut welfare and food stamps, just reform it so that way honest middle class people can survive…and just to clarify while I am currently retired and living off MY savings from a bit of hard work my wife is well below the 40k yearly range and I have two kids. I believe that we can lower the taxes and help the WORKING middle class and while you might say I am heartless all I want is for everyone to contribute to the pot…a lot like GBAtemp….those that know me, know I helped with those day 1 releases ya’ll love soooo much even on the games I did not want. Why? Because I was appreciative of the hard work those behind the scenes did for me and I wanted to give back rather than just being a moocher.

As far as the atheist republican thing goes…
It is quite simple
I believe in the death penalty, I believe we should work for what we call ours, I believe in right protect my family with my guns… but since I am an atheist I am also prochoice, and have no feelings towards gay marriage, while I do want to protect the environment … I do want to tap that pipe in Alaska. While I don’t do drugs I do think we should legalize pot and tax the hell out of it… and while I do not pay for sex think we should legalize, regulate, and tax the hell out of prostitution. I also support what other countries call a luxury tax… that is for instance the boat I just purchased. In other countries where they don’t tax the hell out of your income they would tax the hell out of my purchase and anything similar. This gives people the opportunity to make their money and save it for retirement or what not and are only then penalized for wasteful spending.
While I usually lurk as I am too busy these days being a Dad…I felt like venting…I will probably go back to lurking as my daughter has called for my attention twice now…but you all have a good one 

My apologies for calling you heartless. it's just that i get tired of some people who are well off and have never had to struggle, judging people who can barely keep what they have together. it's really frustrating because I see it a lot and these are the people who one take a second to talk to the person on the other side and learn something about life. They stay in their own bubble and say "If I can do it, so can you" without realizing how easy they have had it. With that said, maybe our entitlements and the welfare and child support systems do need reforming BUT giving members o the 1% a tax cut isn't going to solve the problem. This notion that if we give those who are hoarding all the wealth even more and maybe they will share is bullshit. It's like telling a 4 year old with no manners training and a whole cookie jr to share the cookies with his/her classmates. It's not happening.

 

[BlueStar]

From World Nut Daily

http://www.wnd.com/2...-god-but-allah/

According to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada: “There is no god except Allah.”

Are they really, genuinely, persisting with this abject fucking stupidity?

 

[Gahars]

Conspiracy theorists like these don't care about little things like "facts" or "reality".

If they did, they wouldn't be conspiracy theorists in the first place.

 

[The Catboy]

Spoiler

From World Nut Daily

http://www.wnd.com/2...-god-but-allah/

According to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada: “There is no god except Allah.”

Are they really, genuinely, persisting with this abject fucking stupidity?

(This comment is not directed at you, it's directed at the people up in arms about this)
Going to be honest, would it even matter if it was Islamic?
It doesn't matter if the the man is Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or even an Atheist, what does any of this have to do with him in office? Religion should have no hold on government and shouldn't even be a concern of the voters. The fact that people are actually concerned over a leaders religion in this country only shows how shallow and close-minded some people have become. It also destroys the foundation that America was founded upon and insults the millions of soldiers who fought for the right to practice any religion one chooses to practice.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

I'm not from USA, I've been there only once in my life, so I know that I have no business here. But I was reading some pages here and I want to know why adjectives like "communist", "socialist" and "Islamic" are insults on USA? Ok, you had an enemy that was communist orientated, but this do no mean that every form of communism and socialism (and there's many) is something avoidable. There are some good values on communism.

And about the president being Islamic or not, why should it matter? It is not a election for the new pope, it is a election for a new president.

 

[The Catboy]

I'm not from USA, I've been there only once in my life, so I know that I have no business here. But I was reading some pages here and I want to know why adjectives like "communist", "socialist" and "Islamic" are insults on USA? Ok, you had an enemy that was communist orientated, but this do no mean that every form of communism and socialism (and there's many) is something avoidable. There are some good values on communism.

And about the president being Islamic or not, why should it matter? It is not a election for the new pope, it is a election for a new president.

It's pretty much Cold War prejudice being mixed into poor education filled with half-baked conspiracies, all wrapped up in nice little package.
In other words, people keep these old/half-assed ideas about something and refuse to look more into it, then use it as an "insult" because they think it's an insult, then other people use it as the same way and it becomes an insult. It's like how people use other phrases that aren't insults as an insult, it's only people's of lack of understanding and prejudice, that then lead to people using and abusing it.

 

[KingVamp]

I know lots of people that are on welfare or unemployement that are rich.

Oh really?
While I do agree that there should be more restrictions on welfare, like proof of trying to get a job at a certain age or something, I find
it funny he put all the blame on the 47% with no backing. If what you said was truth.

 

[BlueStar]

Classy...

 

[BlueStar]

I'm not from USA, I've been there only once in my life, so I know that I have no business here. But I was reading some pages here and I want to know why adjectives like "communist", "socialist" and "Islamic" are insults on USA? Ok, you had an enemy that was communist orientated, but this do no mean that every form of communism and socialism (and there's many) is something avoidable. There are some good values on communism.

And about the president being Islamic or not, why should it matter? It is not a election for the new pope, it is a election for a new president

The excuse I've heard from these mouth breathers when you call them up on that its that they're not making a big deal out of it because he's Muslim but because he's 'lying' about being a Christian.

 

[BlueStar]

By the way, people will sometimes buy high value stuff like lobster and energy drinks because they're easiest to sell on to turn into money to pay debts. Shouldn't happen, but it does.

 

[leic7]

If living on welfare is really so "tasty" and comfortable and desirable, then why aren't you on it? The same question I posed to those who said our prisons were getting "too good".

 

[Jakob95]

Classy...

Well there are tons of black people who are the same like that guy, who would vote for Obama just because hes black.

 

[geishroy]

Classy...

Well there are tons of black people who are the same like that guy, who would vote for Obama just because hes black.

it's fine to be racist, but why bring their weight into this?