Then explain why the first 8 bytes of your .iso files don't match the discs they were ripped from.
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Actually it would be good to see the entire *-dumpinfo.txt created by cleanrip for one of the dumps.
I'm sorry, but it's a given that in any console scene, you're going to have 90-95% of it consist of piracy.
Also, there is not anything wrong with piracy either (oh boy, yeah I said it - boy that must really be pissing some of you goody two-shoes off now won't it? But you know it's the truth and you know you yourself are engaged in it as well - don't BS me) - it's been the biggest ongoing active preservation project in history so far. I challenge any guy here to debate this and I'll give you a long, long, long list of articles from MAINSTREAM SOURCES that confirm exactly what it is I've been saying. Believe me - the 'smarter people' in this industry (and not impressionable 18-year old kids easily taken in by PR tripe from fatcat company execs) are starting to get the picture and trying to cut through the PR propaganda from this lovely 'industry'.
Don't give me all that crap about 'dying and starving' videogame programmers/artists when it's their bosses that are screwing them over in the first place. Or do you want to deny that the videogame industry is one hell of a tech industry sweatshop? Have you just not been paying attention and read all the articles concerning your precious 'videogame industry' and the kind of 'quality of life' most 'developers' have? Trust me, it's still better than your average Foxconn worker in China but it's getting there nonetheless.
So I'm sorry, I might be the 'new kid in town' but in a way - I'm really not - I am in every scene - Wii/NGC, PS3, Xbox 360, Xbox 1 - I've been in them all and I am right now engaged in all of them - I don't confine myself to some subscene of a subscene (which the Wii scene is - try to say otherwise all you want but it's not anything special or anything better compared to any 'console scene'), and for that reason I have some kind of 'helicopter view' on this whole thing that isn't confined to some BS 'morals and dogma' from any other subscene. And I simply can't respect this because
1) it is hypocritical (because we all know how most of these 'open-source' SDKs are arrived upon - c'mon - don't bullshit me - libogc and the Revolution SDK nearly look identical - I wonder how much of that came down to an 'IDA reverse job' - which, yes, would make it 'illegal' -sorry - not clean reversing and 100% illegal)
2) It is hypocritical (yeah, sorry, it needs to be reiterated a second time just so that the message comes through)
3) You are not Nintendo or any big platform holder. An 'underground console scene' should be about removing the limits - not adding new ones. IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO ADD NEW SAFEGUARDS/LIMITATIONS to your homebrew - nor should any user respect that decision. Next thing you know you might be adding in some wishy-washy 'phone home app' next in your application and creating some wishy-washy excuse about how it is your 'moral authority' that compelled you to do this.
4) Nobody that is a grown-up in life is looking for some two-bit 'homebrew developer' to instill his moral code into people. Bottom line - (and this leads me to point 5 and 6)
5) You are 'NOT' going to get a job out of this by 'appealing' to the videogame industry - they simply don't give a crap about these 'panderings' to their business - you still won't get a job either way.
6) There's NOTHING wrong with piracy. Seriously, stop trying to parrot the PR bullshit from company execs and go look at the fruits -
without piracy, nobody would have any ROMs for any emulator. All of that came from the 'piracy scene'. Without piracy, you would all be playing DRM'ed crap and you would only be playing it if the videogame publisher DECIDED it was stll profitable for you to be playing it. And notice, they have no problems pulling servers if the game no longer is profitable - 'consumer rights' is simply not a serious proposal to these guys. Without piracy, none of you would be playing any kind of 'PSN/XBA' games in the future when Sony and MS are going to 'retire' those servers and you'll be forced to pay for the same crap again (and probably get much less in return).
7 - Anybody from the 'homebrew scene' that engages in adding its own DRM / security safeguards / phone-home apps/whatever to his homebrew software is scum in my opinion and I won't respect it. You're exactly what the 'free software movement' scene is against and anybody engaging in that stuff should be ashamed of themselves - this goes for a DRM dongle seller such as the ones in the PS3 scenes all the way down to 'moral do-gooders' adding 'semi-brick' routines to their programs because oh noes - 'he might be wanting to PIRRRATE'.
I'm sorry, but this is just stupid and I have no wish or desire to try to engage in cognitive dissonance in some bid to 'appeal'to the author. Stuff like this is why the 360/PS3 scenes have always regarded the 'Wii scene' as - 'ooh well - thattttt scene'. I'm sorry, t's not 'mature', it's not 'morally conscious', it's not any of those things - it's just borderline stupid and it smacks of sad LOTR/Star Wars fanboys thinking George Lucas or Peter Jackson is going to give them a job because they dress up as really stupid Star Wars / LOTR characters when a movie premieres and have such 'concerns' for Mr. PR and his god-given right to 'make money'. I repeat - nobody in the games industry is going to give you a job over this 'morally conscious' decision - absolutely nobody - the more you appeal to them, the less they respect you.
Now I invite every 'homebrew developer' that thinks they're a Samurai with some kind of 'moral code' to hate me - I simply don't care - I will never just 'go with the flow', especially when it's over something I won't believe in - I will gladly voice my disapproval and do so by engaging in logic - that's me - I'm 'logic-based' - I don't go with some PR crap from some Bobby Kotick asshat that just wants to have more money in the bank by screwing over a few consumers and a few of his own underling employees. Because these executives and these PR people are really NOT the average programmer/designers' friend - it's time to get that message loud and clear. Your 'videogame industry' is not a cute and cuddly place - even Howard Lincoln and those guys would wholesale admit to that - 90% of it is about holding retailers at gunpoint, holding programmers/designers at gunpoint, and engaging in price fixing. It's about as 'legitimable' and 'respectable' as a mob-run casino.
Oh BTW - I will say this seemingly contradictory thing with a clean conscious knowing that I never lie - 'I support piracy 100%' - and yet I have never played a backup/pirated game in over two/three years now - and that's the honest to God truth - it's been non-stop 'homebrew' development. Now I like to see any of the 'moral do-gooders' try to beat that record - because honestly, I know it's all a big fat, fat, fat, fat lie - it was that way with the Matthieulhs in the PS3 scene, it was that way with the 'others' in the 360 scene that I won't name, and most likely it is that way over here as well. It's a joke of a joke. Stop with the hypocrisy and the two-facedness and own up to it - yeah, I know you're worried the FBI will be 'making an example out of you' or giving a 'first offender 5 years in jail' - whatever - be scared and paranoid all you want - just don't beat around the bushes and just don't pretend you are what you are not and try to 'talk down' to end-users just because they, you know, might want to play a 'pirated/backup game'. Seriously - get a perspective on life and what is actually important.
Also, there is not anything wrong with piracy either (oh boy, yeah I said it - boy that must really be pissing some of you goody two-shoes off now won't it? But you know it's the truth and you know you yourself are engaged in it as well - don't BS me) - it's been the biggest ongoing active preservation project in history so far. I challenge any guy here to debate this and I'll give you a long, long, long list of articles from MAINSTREAM SOURCES that confirm exactly what it is I've been saying. Believe me - the 'smarter people' in this industry (and not impressionable 18-year old kids easily taken in by PR tripe from fatcat company execs) are starting to get the picture and trying to cut through the PR propaganda from this lovely 'industry'.
Don't give me all that crap about 'dying and starving' videogame programmers/artists when it's their bosses that are screwing them over in the first place. Or do you want to deny that the videogame industry is one hell of a tech industry sweatshop? Have you just not been paying attention and read all the articles concerning your precious 'videogame industry' and the kind of 'quality of life' most 'developers' have? Trust me, it's still better than your average Foxconn worker in China but it's getting there nonetheless.
So I'm sorry, I might be the 'new kid in town' but in a way - I'm really not - I am in every scene - Wii/NGC, PS3, Xbox 360, Xbox 1 - I've been in them all and I am right now engaged in all of them - I don't confine myself to some subscene of a subscene (which the Wii scene is - try to say otherwise all you want but it's not anything special or anything better compared to any 'console scene'), and for that reason I have some kind of 'helicopter view' on this whole thing that isn't confined to some BS 'morals and dogma' from any other subscene. And I simply can't respect this because
1) it is hypocritical (because we all know how most of these 'open-source' SDKs are arrived upon - c'mon - don't bullshit me - libogc and the Revolution SDK nearly look identical - I wonder how much of that came down to an 'IDA reverse job' - which, yes, would make it 'illegal' -sorry - not clean reversing and 100% illegal)
2) It is hypocritical (yeah, sorry, it needs to be reiterated a second time just so that the message comes through)
3) You are not Nintendo or any big platform holder. An 'underground console scene' should be about removing the limits - not adding new ones. IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO ADD NEW SAFEGUARDS/LIMITATIONS to your homebrew - nor should any user respect that decision. Next thing you know you might be adding in some wishy-washy 'phone home app' next in your application and creating some wishy-washy excuse about how it is your 'moral authority' that compelled you to do this.
4) Nobody that is a grown-up in life is looking for some two-bit 'homebrew developer' to instill his moral code into people. Bottom line - (and this leads me to point 5 and 6)
5) You are 'NOT' going to get a job out of this by 'appealing' to the videogame industry - they simply don't give a crap about these 'panderings' to their business - you still won't get a job either way.
6) There's NOTHING wrong with piracy. Seriously, stop trying to parrot the PR bullshit from company execs and go look at the fruits -
without piracy, nobody would have any ROMs for any emulator. All of that came from the 'piracy scene'. Without piracy, you would all be playing DRM'ed crap and you would only be playing it if the videogame publisher DECIDED it was stll profitable for you to be playing it. And notice, they have no problems pulling servers if the game no longer is profitable - 'consumer rights' is simply not a serious proposal to these guys. Without piracy, none of you would be playing any kind of 'PSN/XBA' games in the future when Sony and MS are going to 'retire' those servers and you'll be forced to pay for the same crap again (and probably get much less in return).
7 - Anybody from the 'homebrew scene' that engages in adding its own DRM / security safeguards / phone-home apps/whatever to his homebrew software is scum in my opinion and I won't respect it. You're exactly what the 'free software movement' scene is against and anybody engaging in that stuff should be ashamed of themselves - this goes for a DRM dongle seller such as the ones in the PS3 scenes all the way down to 'moral do-gooders' adding 'semi-brick' routines to their programs because oh noes - 'he might be wanting to PIRRRATE'.
I'm sorry, but this is just stupid and I have no wish or desire to try to engage in cognitive dissonance in some bid to 'appeal'to the author. Stuff like this is why the 360/PS3 scenes have always regarded the 'Wii scene' as - 'ooh well - thattttt scene'. I'm sorry, t's not 'mature', it's not 'morally conscious', it's not any of those things - it's just borderline stupid and it smacks of sad LOTR/Star Wars fanboys thinking George Lucas or Peter Jackson is going to give them a job because they dress up as really stupid Star Wars / LOTR characters when a movie premieres and have such 'concerns' for Mr. PR and his god-given right to 'make money'. I repeat - nobody in the games industry is going to give you a job over this 'morally conscious' decision - absolutely nobody - the more you appeal to them, the less they respect you.
Now I invite every 'homebrew developer' that thinks they're a Samurai with some kind of 'moral code' to hate me - I simply don't care - I will never just 'go with the flow', especially when it's over something I won't believe in - I will gladly voice my disapproval and do so by engaging in logic - that's me - I'm 'logic-based' - I don't go with some PR crap from some Bobby Kotick asshat that just wants to have more money in the bank by screwing over a few consumers and a few of his own underling employees. Because these executives and these PR people are really NOT the average programmer/designers' friend - it's time to get that message loud and clear. Your 'videogame industry' is not a cute and cuddly place - even Howard Lincoln and those guys would wholesale admit to that - 90% of it is about holding retailers at gunpoint, holding programmers/designers at gunpoint, and engaging in price fixing. It's about as 'legitimable' and 'respectable' as a mob-run casino.
Oh BTW - I will say this seemingly contradictory thing with a clean conscious knowing that I never lie - 'I support piracy 100%' - and yet I have never played a backup/pirated game in over two/three years now - and that's the honest to God truth - it's been non-stop 'homebrew' development. Now I like to see any of the 'moral do-gooders' try to beat that record - because honestly, I know it's all a big fat, fat, fat, fat lie - it was that way with the Matthieulhs in the PS3 scene, it was that way with the 'others' in the 360 scene that I won't name, and most likely it is that way over here as well. It's a joke of a joke. Stop with the hypocrisy and the two-facedness and own up to it - yeah, I know you're worried the FBI will be 'making an example out of you' or giving a 'first offender 5 years in jail' - whatever - be scared and paranoid all you want - just don't beat around the bushes and just don't pretend you are what you are not and try to 'talk down' to end-users just because they, you know, might want to play a 'pirated/backup game'. Seriously - get a perspective on life and what is actually important.
@[member='LibretroRetroArch']
I'm a pirate. Want screenshots of the Warez installers I keep around just in case I need to reinstall or something?
I'm a pirate. Want screenshots of the Warez installers I keep around just in case I need to reinstall or something?
He didn't add new limits, he just hasn't removed the already existing limit while removing a bunch of other limits by adding new features. Like, playing PSO online with the Wii.
Sigh.... no idea why people keep repeating this. It is a response to a claim that nobody appears to be making.
What is meant is that the program has limited usability because of the AP; no one is suggesting that the program stops someone from playing games from disc. That's just silly. As an example, some users would like to be able to use Devolution with custom mods of games that they own along with other homebrew applications. Neither are piracy, and yet are not possible due to the requirement of a retail disc.
I'm pretty sure LibretroRetroArch was referring solely to the idea of an AP. An AP that is not working properly is a different matter unrelated to LibretroRetroArch's novel.
The quote is right there, claiming that I'm adding new restrictions instead of removing the limits set by Nintendo. Which is obviously false since I remove Nintendo's "limitation" that the original disc always be required.
It was a novel-length post indeed, however, an AP that isn't even working properly - and suffers from a bad case of 'false positives'-itis - oh my - that requires an entirely new novel dedicated all to itself.
However, I'll leave that to somebody else as I have better things to do.
Hooray, we won't be subjected to another page of opinions dressed up as "logic" from someone who hasn't even used the app in question...
Couldn't have said it better myself.
It's your 'potential users' reporting it - in fact, they have dedicated an entire thread to it.
Anyway, if you want to get the DRM/security thing down pat and have problems working out the kinks, perhaps you should talk to mudlord. He's a bit of a nut, but he can at least do this shit right. Cya and no hard feelings in either case.
A person who is interested in the truth does their best to understand what a person actually meant, and does not make selective interpretations which dismiss what was actually intended by the speaker. Why would anyone claim that Devolution limits their ability to play games from disc? That's absurd.
Which quote are you reading?
The implication is that I am adding restrictions. Adding, meaning increasing or compounding the existing restrictions put in place by the aforementioned "Nintendo or any big platform holder". I agree it is absurd.
I think it is quite clear what LibretroRetroArch "actually meant"; he clearly stated that tueidj was adding new limitations. If that wasn't what he meant (no idea how he could have meant anything else with what he said), I'd invite him to clarify what he actually meant, but I don't think that is necessary; his point was made quite clear, and was probably (correctly) dismissed by most people with a little sense. (My favourite part was when he tried to justify piracy by saying that without it, we couldn't pirate; I am referring here to how he said without piracy there wouldn't be ROMs for emulators)
EDIT: tueidj beat me to it. Guess I take too long to type.
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