Apple going after Galaxy S III

[chris888222]

But in all honesty, calling Apple products crap just because of these "bullying" is just darn stupid. I have seen so many people on the web saying 'APPLE IS A BIG BULLY SO THEIR STUFF SUCKS'.

It is true that the iPhone 4S is technologically inferior compared to some quad core beasts like GS3, GSN2. However iPhone 4S is a previous gen device. It's like comparing a DS with a PS Vita. Although I must say that the new iPad really shuns in CPU performance compared to others.

I had quite enough of all of these criticisms not only from APPLE SUCKS, but also from SHAMSUNG sides. If you really want to rage, just support the product you want and boycott the other. I'll just go for a phone that satisfies my needs more.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

But in all honesty, calling Apple products crap just because of these "bullying" is just darn stupid. I have seen so many people on the web saying 'APPLE IS A BIG BULLY SO THEIR STUFF SUCKS'.

It is true that the iPhone 4S is technologically inferior compared to some quad core beasts like GS3, GSN2. However iPhone 4S is a previous gen device. It's like comparing a DS with a PS Vita. Although I must say that the new iPad really shuns in CPU performance compared to others.

I had quite enough of all of these criticisms not only from APPLE SUCKS, but also from SHAMSUNG sides. If you really want to rage, just support the product you want and boycott the other. I'll just go for a phone that satisfies my needs more.

But their stuff does really suck, what they are doing is really making a mid range product and selling it as a high end product then criticizing and suing the competition because they currently have a lower market share, no one is saying Samsung is better but out of Samsung and crapple its bloody obvious that Samsung is the much much MUCH lesser of 2 evils but in that comparison the only evil one is crapple, Samsung seems more neutral actually.

 

[chris888222]

But in all honesty, calling Apple products crap just because of these "bullying" is just darn stupid. I have seen so many people on the web saying 'APPLE IS A BIG BULLY SO THEIR STUFF SUCKS'.

It is true that the iPhone 4S is technologically inferior compared to some quad core beasts like GS3, GSN2. However iPhone 4S is a previous gen device. It's like comparing a DS with a PS Vita. Although I must say that the new iPad really shuns in CPU performance compared to others.

I had quite enough of all of these criticisms not only from APPLE SUCKS, but also from SHAMSUNG sides. If you really want to rage, just support the product you want and boycott the other. I'll just go for a phone that satisfies my needs more.

But their stuff does really suck, what they are doing is really making a mid range product and selling it as a high end product then criticizing and suing the competition because they currently have a lower market share, no one is saying Samsung is better but out of Samsung and crapple its bloody obvious that Samsung is the much much MUCH lesser of 2 evils but in that comparison the only evil one is crapple, Samsung seems more neutral actually.

What I'm saying is, by just claiming that Apple is a big fat bully = product sucks doesn't make any sense. In many webs I've been to many people are claiming this.

The Apple A5 chip is actually quite sturdy. It was used in the iPad 2 before the 4S came out (which was in March) and the performance was pretty smooth on the iPad. The A5 was also one of the earliest dual core SoCs to ship in volume, so it was quite impressive. However, The A5X was a huge miss in tackling the quad core competition from Nividia and Exynos. This September 12, Apple MIGHT announce the A6, so I'm looking forward to it.

Samsung will definitely have a large market share, because they have products for mass market. They have the Ace line, S line and the rest of mid-range Galaxies. Now they are starting to move into Windows mobile too. People can afford Samsung phones, and those who opt for the S line will definitely pay a huge price but get excellent quality products.

Apple on the other hand, only caters to their own "S line" for mobile phones. That's why they are starting to lose out. They resort to blocking these products in order to gain back some status, but they are just doing it wrong. Apple's hardware isn't so bad (take the A5 example), it's their audience which makes them go down.

 

[BORTZ]

They're just angry from the last case

Apparently Samsung paid Apple the one billion by sending them 30 trucks full of 5 cent coins

OOOKKKKKK lets play math.

Im going to have to cast a little magic to get this time work.
Lets assumer the nickels Apple sends Samsung are magic nickels and there is abolutly no empty space between each one as they are packed into the dumptrucks. A US nickles is 21.21mm in diameter and 1.95 thick. This gives us a volume of 688.979mm^3. Converting that into cubic yards gives us aprox. 18,924.161 cubic yards for 21 billion nickels (just over 1 Billion dollars)

The average Tandem-asel dump truck, according to google and my engineering friends, should hold about what, 12-16 cy of dirt. Lets settle on 14 cy (cubic yards). So 18,924.161 divided into 14 cy chunks gives us a rounded 1353 dump trucks.

Now, that said, that would be if the trucks were magic. The average dump truck would have exceeded its actual ability to carry all that weight. Again, Google and my engineering friends, gives us a capacity (max) of 27 tons per truck. 21 billion nickels at 5 grams each would weigh in at about 115742.55 tons... Which means that divided into chunks of 27 tons, gives us...

4269 dump trucks (rounded, filled to the brim with magic, no space between them nickels).

That aside, 21billion nickels is approx. 84% of the nickels in circulation.

 

[chris888222]

They're just angry from the last case

Apparently Samsung paid Apple the one billion by sending them 30 trucks full of 5 cent coins

OOOKKKKKK lets play math.

Im going to have to cast a little magic to get this time work.
Lets assumer the nickels Apple sends Samsung are magic nickels and there is abolutly no empty space between each one as they are packed into the dumptrucks. A US nickles is 21.21mm in diameter and 1.95 thick. This gives us a volume of 688.979mm^3. Converting that into cubic yards gives us aprox. 18,924.161 cubic yards for 21 billion nickels (just over 1 Billion dollars)

The average Tandem-asel dump truck, according to google and my engineering friends, should hold about what, 12-16 cy of dirt. Lets settle on 14 cy (cubic yards). So 18,924.161 divided into 14 cy chunks gives us a rounded 1353 dump trucks.

Now, that said, that would be if the trucks were magic. The average dump truck would have exceeded its actual ability to carry all that weight. Again, Google and my engineering friends, gives us a capacity (max) of 27 tons per truck. 21 billion nickels at 5 grams each would weigh in at about 115742.55 tons... Which means that divided into chunks of 27 tons, gives us...

4269 dump trucks (rounded, filled to the brim with magic, no space between them nickels).

That aside, 21billion nickels is approx. 84% of the nickels in circulation.

The truck thing is fake.

Samsung is likely going to pay Apple by manufacturing more chips, which is quite a good option.

 

[bazamuffin]

Childish tactics from Apple. Just another reason for me to wish the brand would fuck off and die. Whats wrong with healthy competition?

 

[zygie]

But in all honesty, calling Apple products crap just because of these "bullying" is just darn stupid. I have seen so many people on the web saying 'APPLE IS A BIG BULLY SO THEIR STUFF SUCKS'.

While this line of reasoning is really illogical, and establishing that the A5 really is inferior to faster dual-cores and quad-cores, you could actually say it IS crap. Thing is, hardware isn't everything. Apple shines in optimizing their software for the hardware, and that's the one place I give them props to. Heck even the A4 of the iPod Touch 4th gen runs just as well as some dual-core Android phones on the same generation equivalent software.

It's like those dual-core Windows Phone 7 Nokias, where they might be "just" dual-core in a quad-core marketplace, but still runs smooth.

But I digress, and so on topic: boo Apple. Boo.

 

[chris888222]

But in all honesty, calling Apple products crap just because of these "bullying" is just darn stupid. I have seen so many people on the web saying 'APPLE IS A BIG BULLY SO THEIR STUFF SUCKS'.

While this line of reasoning is really illogical, and establishing that the A5 really is inferior to faster dual-cores and quad-cores, you could actually say it IS crap. Thing is, hardware isn't everything. Apple shines in optimizing their software for the hardware, and that's the one place I give them props to. Heck even the A4 of the iPod Touch 4th gen runs just as well as some dual-core Android phones on the same generation equivalent software.

It's like those dual-core Windows Phone 7 Nokias, where they might be "just" dual-core in a quad-core marketplace, but still runs smooth.

A5 isn't inferior, it is just severely underclocked compared to other processors.

and I agree. Apple's software component is amazing. Their court cases are just damn illogical and unreasonable.
Maybe they want a repeat of the Apple Lisa.

 

[Kioku]

This is how you know apple has an ego the size of Europe.

 

[funem]

The real problem here is not Apple or Samsung, its the patent office, for letting companies patent (a) things they did not create themselves (b) designes that are not specific and are two general in their description.

In the Europe Apple failed to patent the slide to unlock.. why ? because they didnt invernt it. It was on the neonode N1m long before Apple even had a phone to swipe on, they were therefore refused the patent. BUT in the US they granted the patent and thus the ability to sue in the US. More than likely this is because Apple is a US company applying for a patent in the US.

Apple claim to be the first to use Multi touch, also not true it was in use six years before they had a phone to multi touch.

I could go on with the list.

Its all getting/got rather stupid, on all sides.

 

[Wizerzak]

Well, I started writing something but realised I'm just writing the same thing again, so I'll just say what I said in the last thread.

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[yusuo]

I own a iPhone and I really do like it, the interface just feels so natural as well as the design (i prefer small screens, cause they =smaller phones and I have small hands lol), I prefer it too Android, The last Android phone I owned was the Galaxy S II and it was a nice phone but IOS feels so much nicer. However before I get the fanboy rant that will inevitably come I do think Android is a very good system, Its more customizable and more open than its IOS alternative (which is a pain in the ass to fix should something go wrong)

I know people who prefer Android or IOS and at the end of the day it boils down to a matter of taste, I do think the software patents though are a load of rubbish, each use each others ideas, and imo thats a good thing.

What i'm basically getting at is the minor software patents such as bounce back etc shouldn't be allowed, competition in any market is healthy and as much as I like my iPhone, Apple are complete assholes for what there doing to the market

On a separate note, i dont get this whole big screen thing, 10 years ago manufacturers were competing to see who could make there devices smaller with the most features, now its who can make the biggest clearer screen. Very ironic, no

 

[funem]

As per my post on the "other" thread

Voice control on a mobile phone was first built in on an Android phone in 2010 on Froyo, It didnt apear on an Apple phone until the 4S in 2011, so Apple were not the first ones there either. Samsung just went with the flow on what was already on Android. Neither Android or Apple created it, as its been around for years.

Next Apple "innervation" to be shot down please....

 

[yusuo]

Hey man, I know voice recognition is nothing new. It seems to me the only thing apple are good at is taking an open source o/s (Linux) building upon it and then charging obscene amounts of money to use something that should be free anyway. At least android kept it open source and free even though they've done the same thing

 

[chrisrlink]

doesn't apple know business law? if they crush all competition they would monopolize the market which if i last checked is Illegal i mean you dont see nintendo, sony,microsoft suing each other do you?

 

[BORTZ]

doesn't apple know business law? if they crush all competition they would monopolize the market which if i last checked is Illegal i mean you dont see nintendo, sony,microsoft suing each other do you?

Obviously if Apple won the lawsuit, somewhere in there the law ruled in their favor. Keep in mind Samung isnt the only other manufacturer in phones.

 

[insidexdeath]

This is hardly something to worry about. The action isn't even scheduled for trial until March 2014. The issues will be resolved, changed, or not even matter since the GSIII will be extremely outdated by then.

Good read on why this isn't really a big deal compared to the events of the past few weeks.

http://www.androidpo...that-important/

I really don't call a few months extremely outdated. Years? Sure, but not months.

Samsung has already announced the Galaxy Note II for fuck sake. Galaxy SIII will be small potatoes by then. Not to mention that Samsung can remove most of what Apple is pissed about through software updates.

Samsung Galaxy Note is a completely different version of a Samsung phone. #justsaying

Samsung Galaxy S2=/=Samsung Galaxy Note.

Samsung Galaxy S3=/=Samsung Galaxy Note II

 

[chris888222]

As per my post on the "other" thread

Voice control on a mobile phone was first built in on an Android phone in 2010 on Froyo, It didnt apear on an Apple phone until the 4S in 2011, so Apple were not the first ones there either. Samsung just went with the flow on what was already on Android. Neither Android or Apple created it, as its been around for years.

Next Apple "innervation" to be shot down please....

Actually voice options appeared on the iPhone 3GS, not 4S.

But yes, It's true that Apple didn't invent these things.

For some things, Apple didn't really say that they "invented" it. For example, iPods. They agreed that there were other music players out there and they were just 'redesigning' the music category. Another example would be Mac OS X, which they stressed that it was based on a UNIX foundation.

 

[Vampire Lied]

Another lawsuit from apple. Some would say they're rotten to the core.

 

[NightsOwl]

Really makes me hate Apple more than I already do. Do they not have enough money already? What's the similarities of the iPhone and any of those phones other than being smart phones anyway?