ArmA II Mod DayZ Going Standalone

[Gahars]

I'm a little sad that DayZ is so good, because if it wasn't, I could totally make a "They should call it DayZzzz! Because it put me to sleep!" joke.

 

[clonesniper666]

I knew it! I wonder if this is also going to be free though?

No, if it was free then the could not make any money on it. I would suspect that the game will retail for $30 or $40 on Steam.

But the mod was free, its not like the Arma producers were paying them for it >_> they weren't making money off of it to begin with.

The developers of ArmA 2 are the ones that started the mod so yes you did pay them for it.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I knew it! I wonder if this is also going to be free though?

No, if it was free then the could not make any money on it. I would suspect that the game will retail for $30 or $40 on Steam.

But the mod was free, its not like the Arma producers were paying them for it >_> they weren't making money off of it to begin with.

Technically they were, a lot of people only bought ArmA so they can play this.

But not the modders, just the Arma producers. Frankly, the only reason I can see it not being free is just greed.

Also because DayZ is kinda shit at the moment. Admittedly it has great ideas but it doesn't have nearly as much resources to make it take off. The best mods are still mods.

With the proper funding and full access to the game engine, it means this game can truly shine. Hell, we could even see it on the ArmA III engine.

It's just rather selfish to complain about paying for a retail game. It's more than a mod at this point. Its a whole other game. People didn't complain over Counterstrike Source, Team Fortress 2, and so on, why are complaining about this?

 

[The Milkman]

I knew it! I wonder if this is also going to be free though?

No, if it was free then the could not make any money on it. I would suspect that the game will retail for $30 or $40 on Steam.

But the mod was free, its not like the Arma producers were paying them for it >_> they weren't making money off of it to begin with.

Technically they were, a lot of people only bought ArmA so they can play this.

But not the modders, just the Arma producers. Frankly, the only reason I can see it not being free is just greed.

Also because DayZ is kinda shit at the moment. Admittedly it has great ideas but it doesn't have nearly as much resources to make it take off. The best mods are still mods.

With the proper funding and full access to the game engine, it means this game can truly shine. Hell, we could even see it on the ArmA III engine.

It's just rather selfish to complain about paying for a retail game. It's more than a mod at this point. Its a whole other game. People didn't complain over Counterstrike Source, Team Fortress 2, and so on, why are complaining about this?

I wasnt deep enough into gaming back when those were things to complain about And TF2 and Counter Strike are different. TF2 and CS were made as a games to be bought and is as much of a mod as any other game would be on a game engine.

DayZ is a mod developed by some guys who thought Arma's engine would be good for a realistic zombie survival.

Day Z is no closer to a retail game then something like say, Tekkit would be. Therefore, if I do not have to pay for Tekkit why do I have to pay for Day Z, especially if Day Z is probably just going to run on the bare-bones Arma II engine and not involve any actual development of its own engine.

And there is of course, the fact that the mod itself is free and they didnt make money off Arma II sales. If I buy Minecraft for a major mod like Tekkit, the Tekkit developers make no money off me buying Minecraft, so once again. Why would they charge for this game for any reason other then greed?

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[clonesniper666]

What is sad is that the developers had this planned ever since the mod started becoming popular. Hopefully they will incorporate a better version into ArmA 3 whenever it comes out.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I wasnt deep enough into gaming back when those were things to complain about And TF2 and Counter Strike are different. TF2 and CS were made as a games to be bought and is as much of a mod as any other game would be on a game engine.

DayZ is a mod developed by some guys who thought Arma's engine would be good for a realistic zombie survival.

Day Z is no closer to a retail game then something like say, Tekkit would be. Therefore, if I do not have to pay for Tekkit why do I have to pay for Day Z, especially if Day Z is probably just going to run on the bare-bones Arma II engine and not involve any actual development of its own engine.

And there is of course, the fact that the mod itself is free and they didnt make money off Arma II sales. If I buy Minecraft for a major mod like Tekkit, the Tekkit developers make no money off me buying Minecraft, so once again. Why would they charge for this game for any reason other then greed?

How's this any different from TF2 or Counterstrike? Actually, a better comparison is Dota 2. The original Dota is one of the most popular mods ever. Then one of the developers got a large studio behind him (Valve) with the proper resources to create Dota 2, which is also being very well received. Yes, it's free to play, but it was developed with the intention of making a profit, like almost any game.

DayZ WAS a mod. Now it's on to being a retail game. That doesn't mean taking the mod and slapping a price tag on it. If that was the case, we'd be able to buy it by next week. No, it means developing it from the ground up. There's only so much you can do as a modder. With the resources of a large studio and full access to the engine and tools of the game you modded, you can much, much more complete games.

You don't seem to get the concept that this isn't just the mod with a price tag. This is its own game. Anyone who has played DayZ knows just how rough it is around the edges, and anyone whose enjoyed DayZ would easily pay money for a version of the game that isn't rough. This can be achieved with what I mentioned above. And the stuff mentioned above costs money, and the way to cover those losses and ensure a future for the game and the developers is to sell the game.

Unfortunately not every company has money that grows on trees. People need to making a living and games need money to be made.

 

[The Milkman]

I wasnt deep enough into gaming back when those were things to complain about And TF2 and Counter Strike are different. TF2 and CS were made as a games to be bought and is as much of a mod as any other game would be on a game engine.

DayZ is a mod developed by some guys who thought Arma's engine would be good for a realistic zombie survival.

Day Z is no closer to a retail game then something like say, Tekkit would be. Therefore, if I do not have to pay for Tekkit why do I have to pay for Day Z, especially if Day Z is probably just going to run on the bare-bones Arma II engine and not involve any actual development of its own engine.

And there is of course, the fact that the mod itself is free and they didnt make money off Arma II sales. If I buy Minecraft for a major mod like Tekkit, the Tekkit developers make no money off me buying Minecraft, so once again. Why would they charge for this game for any reason other then greed?

How's this any different from TF2 or Counterstrike? Actually, a better comparison is Dota 2. The original Dota is one of the most popular mods ever. Then one of the developers got a large studio behind him (Valve) with the proper resources to create Dota 2, which is also being very well received. Yes, it's free to play, but it was developed with the intention of making a profit, like almost any game.

DayZ WAS a mod. Now it's on to being a retail game. That doesn't mean taking the mod and slapping a price tag on it. If that was the case, we'd be able to buy it by next week. No, it means developing it from the ground up. There's only so much you can do as a modder. With the resources of a large studio and full access to the engine and tools of the game you modded, you can much, much more complete games.

You don't seem to get the concept that this isn't just the mod with a price tag. This is its own game. Anyone who has played DayZ knows just how rough it is around the edges, and anyone whose enjoyed DayZ would easily pay money for a version of the game that isn't rough. This can be achieved with what I mentioned above. And the stuff mentioned above costs money, and the way to cover those losses and ensure a future for the game and the developers is to sell the game.

Unfortunately not every company has money that grows on trees. People need to making a living and games need money to be made.

Im not saying that, really the only reason I said it should be free was because it was mod. But since the same guys who developed Arma developed this I can understand while they would sell it now

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Im not saying that, really the only reason I said it should be free was because it was mod. But since the same guys who developed Arma developed this I can understand while they would sell it now

The mod will still be free of course, it just won't be supported after launch pretty much. Plus, with Steam deals, I'm sure owning a copy of ArmA II may get you a discount towards the DayZ game.

 

[The Milkman]

Im not saying that, really the only reason I said it should be free was because it was mod. But since the same guys who developed Arma developed this I can understand while they would sell it now

The mod will still be free of course, it just won't be supported after launch pretty much. Plus, with Steam deals, I'm sure owning a copy of ArmA II may get you a discount towards the DayZ game.

Yeah, I might actually buy this instead of playing on my pirated Arma II.

 

[Vinnymac]

Glad I didn't jump on it, gonna wait till they rub out any kinks.

 

[gifi4]

Glad I didn't jump on it, gonna wait till they rub out any kinks.

Owners of Arma II better get a damn deal, if not free.

Edit: It appears I derp'd. I quoted you by accident...

 

[FluffyLunamoth]

Glad I didn't jump on it, gonna wait till they rub out any kinks.

Owners of Arma II better get a damn deal, if not free.

Edit: It appears I derp'd. I quoted you by accident...

Why? They got ArmaII itself, and the expansion. You already got the games you paid for, DayZ was just a mod. They didn't make the mod, afaik. Did Killing Floor do anything special when it went from mod to standalone game?

 

[gifi4]

Glad I didn't jump on it, gonna wait till they rub out any kinks.

Owners of Arma II better get a damn deal, if not free.

Edit: It appears I derp'd. I quoted you by accident...

Why? They got ArmaII itself, and the expansion. You already got the games you paid for, DayZ was just a mod. They didn't make the mod, afaik. Did Killing Floor do anything special when it went from mod to standalone game?

Never heard of Killing Floor but, one of the Arma II developers actually developed the mod, so in a way, they made the mod. I do see what you're saying though, a bit like purchasing an alpha or beta game, there's no gurantees (I guess DayZ is still in Alpha anyway xD)

 

[Zerosuit connor]

This had better be free to play!

 

[Hadrian]

And there is of course, the fact that the mod itself is free and they didnt make money off Arma II sales. If I buy Minecraft for a major mod like Tekkit, the Tekkit developers make no money off me buying Minecraft, so once again. Why would they charge for this game for any reason other then greed?

It doesn't take a genious to know the reasons.

1. To give it better support.
2. So that people like me who don't give a flying shit about ArmA 2 can get it without having to have that game installed.

Also this is good for the devs of the game, they can gain from the sales of this release.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Seriously, why are you all demanding that this be free? Have we really become such cheap bastards that we want an entire game for free?

As I've explained multiple times, DayZ is no longer a mod. This is now a full fledged, standalone game that had its origins as a mod. This is NOT the mod with a pricetag on it.

Also, do you expect a discount from Counterstrike, Team Fortress Classic, Half Life: Blue Shift, and Half Life: Opposing Forces because you owned a copy of the original Half Life? No? Then why are you complaining here?

You may be able to get a small discount for owning ArmA II like Steam does with other games but otherwise paying for games is kinda expected.

 

[The Milkman]

And there is of course, the fact that the mod itself is free and they didnt make money off Arma II sales. If I buy Minecraft for a major mod like Tekkit, the Tekkit developers make no money off me buying Minecraft, so once again. Why would they charge for this game for any reason other then greed?

It doesn't take a genious to know the reasons.

1. To give it better support.
2. So that people like me who don't give a flying shit about ArmA 2 can get it without having to have that game installed.

Also this is good for the devs of the game, they can gain from the sales of this release.

I already came to conclusion on this >_>

OffTopic: All these good games started as mods, huh. Guess I actually learned something from this

 

[Framework43]

Day Z vs War Z.
The Battle shall commence!

 

[gifi4]

Day Z vs War Z.
The Battle shall commence!

Yep. Although, the DayZ mod which is in alpha, is imo already better than War Z which is in Beta (Well closed beta, anyway)
But who knows...

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

This is why I haven't bought ArmA II yet.

My thoughts precisely