Hacking neek2o

[shortz1994]

I put the SD stuff on my 1gb SD card and renamed bootmiisneek folder. Then I put all the USB stuff on the fat32 partition of my USB drive (I have two partitions a fat32 set to primary and active and an NTFS with my games kept in a wbfs folder). Now intially I had my nand stored in a folder labeled pl_us and that folder was inside a folder labeled nands which was stored on the root of the fat32. I renamed the pl_us folder to just nand1. Also I read somewhere you needed at least one game on the fat32 parition in order for this to work so I took one of my .iso games from my NTFS partition converted it to .wbfs and stuck it in the root of the wbfs folder I created on the root of my fat32 partition. Despite all this it won't boot. My screen stays blank and after a short period the Wii drive will just start blinking. Also I even considered that possibility that my hard drive might be slow to start up even though I've never had issues with it before so I even tried booting to bootmii from HBC and still same result. Blank screen with flashing disc drive.

ok i gave you a step ahead of this, sorry. the reason why the nand1 folder has the pl-us,(pl=postloader) an depending on what channel you are using to boot to uneek.(the one with the banjo music, that also give you text will not work.) they are two differnet set ups an boot different ways. to use the postloader nand, you'll need one of the neek2o channels, they can befound on the google code page, or here on gbatemp, in the neek2o channel thread. just leave the 1 game you have set up the way you have it. just rename your nand back to pl-us, an grab one of those channels an it should boot. might take a min, an will go black for like a min. but will show up, an you'll need to set up the nand just as you did when you first got the wii..

http://code.google.com/p/custom-di/downloads/detail?name=neek2o%20NK2O_1%20.wad

 

[DaFees]

ok i gave you a step ahead of this, sorry. the reason why the nand1 folder has the pl-us,(pl=postloader) an depending on what channel you are using to boot to uneek.(the one with the banjo music, that also give you text will not work.) they are two differnet set ups an boot different ways. to use the postloader nand, you'll need one of the neek2o channels, they can befound on the google code page, or here on gbatemp, in the neek2o channel thread. just leave the 1 game you have set up the way you have it. just rename your nand back to pl-us, an grab one of those channels an it should boot. might take a min, an will go black for like a min. but will show up, an you'll need to set up the nand just as you did when you first got the wii..

http://code.google.c...20NK2O_1%20.wad

Ok I renamed my nand1 folder back to pl-us and I installed that wad file you linked me to using MMM. I launched the channel via the system menu and well, again, nothing. A blank screen, followed by my disc drive flashing blue.

 

[Shag]

I never had much luck with multi partition hard drives. My setup is system menu 4.3u with WD 1.5 tb hardrive formated with one fat 32 partition 32kb cluster size with a wbfs folder for games. My sneek and nands folder are on the root of the Hard drive with what ever name you want in the nands folder mine are 4.3u_my_nand and nus_6-11, use underscores because spaces in nand name will not work. I have the bootneek .dol loaded in priiloader v.07 and postloader installed. When you start your wii, bootneek .dol loads through priiloader and you can hit any button on the remote when you see a bullet go across the screen and this will allow you to choose 1 of 4 options, real nand, neek2o nand, application mode(postloader) or homebrew.
choose application mode (postloader will load)
hit home key
choose nand sorce
this gives you the option to choose any nand in your nands folder or even the real nand.

Hope this helps
Shag

Links:
bootneek.dol
http://custom-di.goo.../bootneek2o.dol
postloader
http://code.google.c.../downloads/list

 

[shortz1994]

ok i gave you a step ahead of this, sorry. the reason why the nand1 folder has the pl-us,(pl=postloader) an depending on what channel you are using to boot to uneek.(the one with the banjo music, that also give you text will not work.) they are two differnet set ups an boot different ways. to use the postloader nand, you'll need one of the neek2o channels, they can befound on the google code page, or here on gbatemp, in the neek2o channel thread. just leave the 1 game you have set up the way you have it. just rename your nand back to pl-us, an grab one of those channels an it should boot. might take a min, an will go black for like a min. but will show up, an you'll need to set up the nand just as you did when you first got the wii..

http://code.google.c...20NK2O_1%20.wad

Ok I renamed my nand1 folder back to pl-us and I installed that wad file you linked me to using MMM. I launched the channel via the system menu and well, again, nothing. A blank screen, followed by my disc drive flashing blue.

ok, well start over with your nand. just take the one you have an save it. reopen mod mii, this time put your antivires to snooze.( some time those cause interference with the installing of files to your nand.) had mine doing it until i realized what was going on. download all files for neek2o (sneek, nands.) an any folder that is with neek2o.( delete the old folder copy_ to_usb). with the channel you have that i linked you to, you don't need an sdcard. it will still boot to neek2o with out it.(but to be safe replace the folder for neek2o on that to).
make sure every thing is loaded to the appropriate device. an try to boot. after you are comfertable with the way it's set up an is booting the way you want. then do as shag said or set it up any way you like to boot it.( i use the channel to boot, then i use postloader to switch from different nands.).

 

[icw35]

Also I read somewhere you needed at least one game on the fat32 parition in order for this to work so I took one of my .iso games from my NTFS partition converted it to .wbfs and stuck it in the root of the wbfs folder I created on the root of my fat32 partition. Despite all this it won't boot. My screen stays blank and after a short period the Wii drive will just start blinking. Also I even considered that possibility that my hard drive might be slow to start up even though I've never had issues with it before so I even tried booting to bootmii from HBC and still same result. Blank screen with flashing disc drive.

I did this exactly as you and it worked first time - EXCEPT I used modmii to extract the game (tintin) to sneek format. Also the games needs to be in a folder on the root of the SD called "games". Worked first time for me. I think you can also leave it as an .iso though.

 

[shortz1994]

Also I read somewhere you needed at least one game on the fat32 parition in order for this to work so I took one of my .iso games from my NTFS partition converted it to .wbfs and stuck it in the root of the wbfs folder I created on the root of my fat32 partition. Despite all this it won't boot. My screen stays blank and after a short period the Wii drive will just start blinking. Also I even considered that possibility that my hard drive might be slow to start up even though I've never had issues with it before so I even tried booting to bootmii from HBC and still same result. Blank screen with flashing disc drive.

I did this exactly as you and it worked first time - EXCEPT I used modmii to extract the game (tintin) to sneek format. Also the games needs to be in a folder on the root of the SD called "games". Worked first time for me. I think you can also leave it as an .iso though.

he only needs to that if he is going to run the original version of sneek/uneek. cause both of those read disc-x format, were as neek2o will read wbfs format(just as usbloaders do.).
i don't have any disc-x formatted games on my hd, an i can go build a neek2o nand an boot it the first time no problems. an without the sd card in the wii.

 

[doveman]

OK, had a bit more luck with Sneek2o today. It booted from the SD in about 1-2 minutes and there wasn't any long wait after entering the settings

So it now boots into what I guess is the Sneek Wii Menu, showing three channels (Disc Channel, Sneek2o and Postloader I think). From there I can load Postloader, press Home and put it into Wii Game mode, but it doesn't show the game I put on the SD card (in Games) and says I need to rebuild the cache. I tried both rebuild cache options, but it's the same after a reboot.

I noticed when booted into Sneek, in MMM it can't access the SD card, so I guess that's the problem in Postloader too. I'm a bit confused as to what's the point of Sneek2o though if it can't access games on the SD card (obviously Sneek2o+DI, if it was working, and Uneek2o can load them from the USB HDD).

I'm still having problems with WiiXplorer as well, which is a pain as I need to test and move files around. The only way I can get it to load is from MMM - Apps and selecting the boot.dol, but then it loads and shows SD: in the bar but doesn't show any files and is the same if I change it to USB2: (my FAT32 partition). If I select reload it says it's remounting the devices, then crashes to a black screen with debug text which says it will reload in 30 seconds, but then it says Reloading and hangs.

 

[shortz1994]

yeah i don't care for sneek2o to much. not sure of the set up. what is the format of the game on sd card? i know neek2o will read off the hard drive, an if you got sneek2o working. it's not that much different then uneek2o on the set up, you'd have to build the sneek folders you have. an transfer your nand to usb hd. justmake sureif you have muti partitions that fat32 is the first.

 

[doveman]

yeah i don't care for sneek2o to much. not sure of the set up. what is the format of the game on sd card? i know neek2o will read off the hard drive, an if you got sneek2o working. it's not that much different then uneek2o on the set up, you'd have to build the sneek folders you have. an transfer your nand to usb hd. justmake sureif you have muti partitions that fat32 is the first.

I'm confused 'cos as far as I can tell sneek2o / neek2o are used interchangably. The game is extracted in Games\xxxx\ and also in WBFS\xxxx. Anyway, until I can get WiiXplorer working it's too hard to copy files from SD to the USB HD.

Out of interest, do you know which files differ between sneek2o and sneek2o+DI or Uneek2o? Is it just the files in the SNEEK folder or are the files in the NAND folder different as well?

 

[shortz1994]

yeah i don't care for sneek2o to much. not sure of the set up. what is the format of the game on sd card? i know neek2o will read off the hard drive, an if you got sneek2o working. it's not that much different then uneek2o on the set up, you'd have to build the sneek folders you have. an transfer your nand to usb hd. justmake sureif you have muti partitions that fat32 is the first.

I'm confused 'cos as far as I can tell sneek2o / neek2o are used interchangably. The game is extracted in Games\xxxx\ and also in WBFS\xxxx. Anyway, until I can get WiiXplorer working it's too hard to copy files from SD to the USB HD.

Out of interest, do you know which files differ between sneek2o and sneek2o+DI or Uneek2o? Is it just the files in the SNEEK folder or are the files in the NAND folder different as well?

just the snekk folder, i want to say it's armboot.bin that is different. thats the difference for neek-sneek, as far sneek di an sneek. the di in that folder is added or removed.
nand folder is the same.(nand). but neek2o reads wbfs file. so no need to have your games in two different formats( this was my main reason for having neek2o.) plus i can switch my nands on the fly using postloader, or the overlay menu in neek2o.(same for sneek2o.).

 

[doveman]

yeah i don't care for sneek2o to much. not sure of the set up. what is the format of the game on sd card? i know neek2o will read off the hard drive, an if you got sneek2o working. it's not that much different then uneek2o on the set up, you'd have to build the sneek folders you have. an transfer your nand to usb hd. justmake sureif you have muti partitions that fat32 is the first.

I'm confused 'cos as far as I can tell sneek2o / neek2o are used interchangably. The game is extracted in Games\xxxx\ and also in WBFS\xxxx. Anyway, until I can get WiiXplorer working it's too hard to copy files from SD to the USB HD.

Out of interest, do you know which files differ between sneek2o and sneek2o+DI or Uneek2o? Is it just the files in the SNEEK folder or are the files in the NAND folder different as well?

just the snekk folder, i want to say it's armboot.bin that is different. thats the difference for neek-sneek, as far sneek di an sneek. the di in that folder is added or removed.
nand folder is the same.(nand). but neek2o reads wbfs file. so no need to have your games in two different formats( this was my main reason for having neek2o.) plus i can switch my nands on the fly using postloader, or the overlay menu in neek2o.(same for sneek2o.).

I tried adding the di to the sneek folder but then it wouldn't boot. I think that's probably because I don't have my FAT32 partition first though.

Certainly Sneek2o doesn't seem to be able to access the SD card after it's booted, and it's not accesible in MMM, WiiXplorer, etc.

I'm not sure I've understood the correct procedure for loading a game into the disc channel under sneek2o though. Am I meant to be using Postloader to Browse Wii Games and then select one from there?

WiiXplorer is being annoying, as if I boot normally and run it from the SD card, it can only see the SD card. If I boot normally and run it from the USB HDD, it can only see the SD card. If I boot Sneek2o and run it from the SD card, it shows my two USB partitions but not the SD card (because the SD card isn't accessible under Sneek). So I can't find any way to run it where both my SD card and USB HDD are accessible, which rather prevents me using it as intended to copy files from one to the other!

 

[shortz1994]

yeah i don't care for sneek2o to much. not sure of the set up. what is the format of the game on sd card? i know neek2o will read off the hard drive, an if you got sneek2o working. it's not that much different then uneek2o on the set up, you'd have to build the sneek folders you have. an transfer your nand to usb hd. justmake sureif you have muti partitions that fat32 is the first.

I'm confused 'cos as far as I can tell sneek2o / neek2o are used interchangably. The game is extracted in Games\xxxx\ and also in WBFS\xxxx. Anyway, until I can get WiiXplorer working it's too hard to copy files from SD to the USB HD.

Out of interest, do you know which files differ between sneek2o and sneek2o+DI or Uneek2o? Is it just the files in the SNEEK folder or are the files in the NAND folder different as well?

just the snekk folder, i want to say it's armboot.bin that is different. thats the difference for neek-sneek, as far sneek di an sneek. the di in that folder is added or removed.
nand folder is the same.(nand). but neek2o reads wbfs file. so no need to have your games in two different formats( this was my main reason for having neek2o.) plus i can switch my nands on the fly using postloader, or the overlay menu in neek2o.(same for sneek2o.).

I tried adding the di to the sneek folder but then it wouldn't boot. I think that's probably because I don't have my FAT32 partition first though.

Certainly Sneek2o doesn't seem to be able to access the SD card after it's booted, and it's not accesible in MMM, WiiXplorer, etc.

I'm not sure I've understood the correct procedure for loading a game into the disc channel under sneek2o though. Am I meant to be using Postloader to Browse Wii Games and then select one from there?

WiiXplorer is being annoying, as if I boot normally and run it from the SD card, it can only see the SD card. If I boot normally and run it from the USB HDD, it can only see the SD card. If I boot Sneek2o and run it from the SD card, it shows my two USB partitions but not the SD card (because the SD card isn't accessible under Sneek). So I can't find any way to run it where both my SD card and USB HDD are accessible, which rather prevents me using it as intended to copy files from one to the other!

yeah the sd card becomes the wii (in a sence) cause thats the nand now. if possiable put the fat32 in front. thats the only way to run neek2o (as far as i know.) as far the sneek folder goes, you might have to rebuild a sneek folder with di. then see if thatwill work.

 

[DaFees]

Ok I think I just hit a breakthrough with my problem. Everything I tried to get neek2o to work with my USB hard drive which is a 2TB WD green drive shoved in an external enclosure partitioned such that I have 40GBs allocated as a FAT32 partition with a cluster size of 32KB that I use for my wii apps, store emulators and roms, store CFG stuff, etc. and also I have the rest of the drive allocated as an NTFS partition which I use to keep all my .iso games in a WBFS folder. I also use this partition to hold other stuff. I've never had a problem really with this drive, it could handle everything I throw at, except neek2o. Just for fun I grabbed an unused 2GB flash drive, formatted it FAT32 with a 16KB cluster size as that's all I could manage. I put all the required neek2o stuff on this drive, plugged it into my Wii and HOLY you know what, Neek2o worked instantly. It worked it, actually worked. Now this was just an empty nand I didn't have any WiiWare/VC on it to test, but one step at a time I say.

Now, I got to figure out if my hard drive is truly not compatibile with neek2o, and if so then I will need to find something bigger than 2GB to work with.

If it helps, here is the hard drive in question, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514 and the external enclosure in question, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173042

 

[Shag]

@[member='DaFees']
here is a compatablity list that Kylster updates, I don't thinks it's complete but its a start.
http://gbatemp.net/t...atibility-list/

@[member='doveman']
here is a direct quote from obcd who wrote the di module for neek2o:
obcd
"The problem in uneek is that the harddisk is used for the nand folders. The routines to read and write files form those folders take possession and initialise the hardware that interfaces the harddisk, so another (homebrew) program can't access it the same time.

When I started to experiment with neek, I found this terrible. You could use it to play games, but all often used homebrew wasn't working, or just worked from sd. I had modded a couple of wii's with an usb-only setup. neek simply didn't fit in that picture. At that moment, I started on my uneek_fs library. It's a wrapper around the normal usb functions that redirect them to the isfs file system. I modified that in neek2o so that reading and writing from it could be done sector based. So basically, the homebrew uses it's own file system, and when it needs one or more sectors of data, those are requested from the isfs filing system (which normally just reads the nand files, but since those are on the usb disk...) Writing is done the same way in the opposite direction. So basically, I need to call an initialize function at the start of the homebrew. That takes care of the redirection, and from that moment the homebrew has happy usb access again."

Here is some apps that he modded to work with neek2o and one of them happens to be wiixplorer.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5qfjoabxn88t5eo

later
Shag

 

[doveman]

Nice one Shag, that's a most excellent bit of info and will hopefully get me sorted

Still don't get why WiiXplorer can't see my USB drives when I boot normally (i.e. not using sneek) and launch WiiXplorer via the HBC or MMM though

 

[Shag]

Try obcd's version of wiixplorer, that is the only one I use and it sees my hdd on every setup.

 

[doveman]

Try obcd's version of wiixplorer, that is the only one I use and it sees my hdd on every setup.

Will do, thanks

 

[DaFees]

Ok, my original hard drive setup (2TB as discribed above wouldn't work) (this setup also wouldn't work with PL running off my FAT32 parition). So I tried a different setup I tried a seagate 320GB hard drive in a different external enclosure. This didn't work, neek2o wouldn't work. This new setup wouldn't get PL to work either. So now all I have is a 2GB USB drive that will work with neek2o, but now get this it doesn't work with PL either. The only way PL is functional is off an SD card. I know this ounds like it'd be more appropriate for the PL thread, sure, but here's the thing. How is it that two completely different external hard drive setups can work with everything else except PL and neek2o. What is so special about these two apps that I can't seem to get them to work. I'm starting to think there might be something weird going on with my Wii. Therefore I am sharing a syscheck with everyone. Perhaps somebody can see something I can't.

Spoiler

sysCheck v2.0.1 by Double_A
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).
Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.2U (v481)
Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 67451920
Boot2 v2
Found 137 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 3 of them are stub.
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 257): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): No Patches
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222 (rev 4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223 (rev 4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249 (rev 21008): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250 (rev 21008): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 2012/04/15.

I want to thank everyone for their help, though. I do appreciate it.

 

[Shag]

@[member='DaFees']
I know that because neek2o+di reads and writes sector based to the drive, the cluster size is very important.
I used EaseUS Partition Master Home Edition to format my drive to fat32 32kb cluster size, Its free and works extreamly well.
here is a link
http://download.cnet.com/EaseUS-Partition-Master-Home-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html

give this a try
later

 

[DaFees]

@Shag. I use Windows' built in tools, plus a program (guiformat.exe) I found on this site to format my drives accordingly. Unless you think EaseUS Partition Master can do something these can't then ok. I mean I'll try anyways, but I'm not sure it will make any difference. Also I can imagine cluster size is important, but it mustn't be that important if neek2o will work anyways when my 2GB flash drive can only have a cluster size of 16KB. Also did you even take a look at the syscheck I attached?