Zelda Time Line Explained

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Several people have said similiar things in this thread, and I don't see why you guys think this. Doubters, haters, and nintendorks alike, have all questioned the existance of this timeline. This is the real deal. This is not thrown together. It is thought out, and tied firmly together minus a couple plotholes. I guess haters gonna hate.

You can tell the timeline is shit when it's dependent on events that can't even fucking happen in the game. All the Zelda games have a single ending and a single path of story progression, saying "Oh well there are two possible events" is the ultimate thing of ass pulling. If the game had alternate paths then I'd understand. But to have the timeline dependent on events that CAN'T EVEN FUCKING HAPPEN IN THE GAMES is probably the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Yea, you're mad. Get over it. There's a timeline, and it most likely has been there, already thought out, and most definitely not thrown together. I just knew that when they got ready to release the timeline, people like you were gonna bitch. So yea, haters gonna hate.
 
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That's a non-canon picture from the extra story at the end of the unnofficial Majora's Mask manga. And also, they never clarify if that character is a Link.

I don't have it in front of me, but I've read it twice.
Thank you for clearing that up.
 
All the people hating on the timeline are those who didn't want it revealed. I say they can take there excuses and closed mindedness and GTFO!

Yes, because making legitimate complaints about the stupidly convoluted nature of the timeline obviously means we are just "close minded".

I hate to break this to you, but its called criticism, and Nintendo is far from immune to it.

This would mean more, if you weren't one of those people who defend the 3DS' delayed features, it's crappy launch ect.

Yeah, except I've been extremely critical of the 3DS, especially when it comes to those shortcomings, so I have no idea what you are talking about. And even if I have been defending Nintendo, wouldn't my criticism hold even more weight?

Unless there's some sort of Bizarro-Gahars running around the forum behind my back, I have no idea where you are got this impression.
 
Several people have said similiar things in this thread, and I don't see why you guys think this. Doubters, haters, and nintendorks alike, have all questioned the existance of this timeline. This is the real deal. This is not thrown together. It is thought out, and tied firmly together minus a couple plotholes. I guess haters gonna hate.

You can tell the timeline is shit when it's dependent on events that can't even fucking happen in the game. All the Zelda games have a single ending and a single path of story progression, saying "Oh well there are two possible events" is the ultimate thing of ass pulling. If the game had alternate paths then I'd understand. But to have the timeline dependent on events that CAN'T EVEN FUCKING HAPPEN IN THE GAMES is probably the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Yea, you're mad. Get over it. There's a timeline, and it most likely has been there, already thought out, and most definitely not thrown together. I just knew that when they got ready to release the timeline, people like you were gonna bitch. So yea, haters gonna hate.

I actually agree with Guild on this one, I do believe the timeline was thrown together this year, and I do believe it's complete shit how they talk about alternate endings that never really appear in the games. But unlike Guild, I actually like the timeline. A little annoying how the alternate timelines are not truly mentioned in game, but as long as Nintendo pieced it together for me with explanations, I am happy.
 
Several people have said similiar things in this thread, and I don't see why you guys think this. Doubters, haters, and nintendorks alike, have all questioned the existance of this timeline. This is the real deal. This is not thrown together. It is thought out, and tied firmly together minus a couple plotholes. I guess haters gonna hate.

You can tell the timeline is shit when it's dependent on events that can't even fucking happen in the game. All the Zelda games have a single ending and a single path of story progression, saying "Oh well there are two possible events" is the ultimate thing of ass pulling. If the game had alternate paths then I'd understand. But to have the timeline dependent on events that CAN'T EVEN FUCKING HAPPEN IN THE GAMES is probably the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Yea, you're mad. Get over it. There's a timeline, and it most likely has been there, already thought out, and most definitely not thrown together. I just knew that when they got ready to release the timeline, people like you were gonna bitch. So yea, haters gonna hate.

Don't bother arguing with him, lol. He can't argue back because his opinions are arbitrary and based on nothing.
 
i've been doing some research in alttp and i've uncovered some interesting facts that might explain how link failed in oot.

1. the kid playing the flute you see in the meadow b4 you dig it up look at him closely is it link?

2. the old man is links father and this is what the old man says in the pub:

mumble mumble... My son
really liked to play the flute,
but he went to look for the
Golden Power and has not
returned... ... ...
I wonder where he is and what
he is doing now?...
... Zzzzzz Zzzzzz

could this be link been trying to get the triforce b4 ganon did and when ganon beat him to it it turned the golden land into the dark world and when link finally got in it turned link into whatever the hell he is when you see him.


3. one of the maidens says this when you rescue her:

Link, because of you, I can
escape from the clutches of
the evil monsters. Thank you!
...Do you know the prophecy of
the Great Cataclysm?
This is the way I heard it...
If a person who has an evil
heart gets the Triforce, a Hero
is destined to appear...
...and he alone must face the
person who began the Great
Cataclysm.
If the evil one destroys the
Hero, nothing can save the
world from his wicked reign.
Only a person of the Knights Of
Hyrule, who protected the
royalty of Hylia, can become
the Hero... You are of their
blood-line, aren't you? Then
you must rescue
Zelda without fail.

this means there is definitely going to be a game before alttp and it will fill in the missing pieces of the puzzle. hopefully it will be the one they make next.
 
Yea, you're mad. Get over it. There's a timeline, and it most likely has been there, already thought out, and most definitely not thrown together. I just knew that when they got ready to release the timeline, people like you were gonna bitch. So yea, haters gonna hate.

If the timeline was really thought out it wouldn't be so messed up. I'm sure they could've easily woven a better, linear timeline based on the canonical endings in the games. As I said before, having a storyline based on something that isn't known canon to people is rather dumb.

So yeah, haters gonna hate.
 
There's a timeline, and it most likely has been there, already thought out, and most definitely not thrown together.
Don't think so, most series don't have a thought out timeline, they just add into the story when they're ready to make some money.

Look at Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII and others.
 
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the timelines make sense but there's still a flaw link cannot win and be defeated at the same time creating a 3rd timeline! we seen him survive the spell the 1st time there is NO WAY he could have been killed by it a 2nd time or b4...THINK ABOUT IT

It's not bloody Harry Potter, that's broken logic. It's like saying "I've survived a car crash once, now I'm immune to car crashes!" - you don't develop immunity to things that can physically destroy you.

That said, it's also entirely possible that he could win the battle but be defeated in the war as a whole - they's the layman's interpretation.

If you said that it was a paradoxical situation that fractured reality and created a new timeline altogether you'd be closer to the truth.
 
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Okay, here's the thing.

The "true" timeline is that Ganondorf conquers Hyrule. This is the main timeline.

However this timeline is averted by Link when he travels back to retrieve the Lens of Truth and the Silver Gauntlets. This creates a second timeline, one in which Ganon is defeated.

However, Zelda sends Link back through time to (presumably) when his quest began. This changes the second timeline, into one where Ganon is defeated and the hero's bloodline no longer exists.

This also creates the third timeline, one in which Link warns Zelda and the King, Zelda sends Link off with the Ocarina of Time to protect it from Ganondorf, they attempt to execute Ganondorf but fail, and instead seal him in the Twilight Realm.


Any other timeline that exists, like for example in MM or OoA, all ultimately lead to the same end: the Moon (or Veran) extinguishes all life. ALL of those timelines are thus irrelevant, as there CAN'T be more games in them, because there's NO MORE STORY to tell.
 
this is how i think it happens

both ganon and link go after the triforce link needs it to stop him and wish him away or some shit and ganon of course needs to to rule the world. ganon somehow gets it 1st and wishes to rule the world but he fucks up and doesn't realize he can only rule the world he is currently in which is the sacred realm this turns it into the dark world. link is currently in the SR at the time and because ganon got the triforce 1st and wished the SR into the dark world it transforms link trapping him in the dark world 4ever. of course ganon wants to rule the light world as well so he starts to create a gateway to get in this causes the sealing war.

if you look at the alttp text what the maidens say as well as as what the flute kid says and his father you'll notice these events start to line up. the flute kid IS link before he got trapped in the dark world. this is how he fails causing the 3rd timeline BUT it is in fact the 1st timeline the other 2 are created by time travel making the child and adult timelines in an alternate universe.
 
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You know in Zelda 2 when you die, no matter HOW you die, Ganon is resurrected. There's another split right there! You can have a game in that time line where Link fails and Ganon comes back.
 
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The "true" timeline is that Ganondorf conquers Hyrule. This is the main timeline.

However this timeline is averted by Link when he travels back to retrieve the Lens of Truth and the Silver Gauntlets. This creates a second timeline, one in which Ganon is defeated.

Which would be one timeline. If anything Ganon conquers Hyrule and then seven years later the "hero" mysteriously returns (we cough this up to time travel but Nintendo easily could've said he was honing his skills in the mountains or went into hibernation or whatever excuse they wanted) and defeats him. That's a single timeline. There's never any evidence that this timeline splits. In the end you defeat Ganon, end of story, resulting in one timeline. There's never a hint of that you're in a parallel dimension in which you actually returned. If there's a parallel dimension for that then, by their logic, there's infinite timelines from having Ganon die at birth to Link slipping out the door when you leave the house and die.

However, Zelda sends Link back through time to (presumably) when his quest began. This changes the second timeline, into one where Ganon is defeated and the hero's bloodline no longer exists.

...Why couldn't Link have, armed with the knowledge of Ganon's impending takeover, warned Hyrule or saved the Princess? Hell, with access to time travel, why didn't Zelda just send Link back in time to where Ganon was vulnerable (like at his birth or something) and kill him there? It seems more logical than expecting a small child to travel through god-knows-what to retrieve these "artifacts" to help an older version of himself (by "older" I mean pretty much in the middle of puberty) to fight a godlike being with unimaginable power. OH BUT HE'S THE HERO OF TIME SO HE HAS TO WIN. When you mess with time travel you mess with gaping logic holes.

This also creates the third timeline, one in which Link warns Zelda and the King, Zelda sends Link off with the Ocarina of Time to protect it from Ganondorf, they attempt to execute Ganondorf but fail, and instead seal him in the Twilight Realm.

Which is exactly what I said before and what seems like the most logical option outside of sending Link to Ganon's inception and destroying him there. If you wanted to continue with their asspulling and say Zelda's power only permits him to send him back this far, then it seems the most logical. I mean they couldn't have anticipated that Ganon just wouldn't die at excecution and exiling him to the Twilight Realm seemed like a plausible solution. And then Twilight Princess would be rather tightly sealed and not full of a large amount of plot holes, mainly because it didn't involve bullshit like time travel.


Any other timeline that exists, like for example in MM or OoA, all ultimately lead to the same end: the Moon (or Veran) extinguishes all life. ALL of those timelines are thus irrelevant, as there CAN'T be more games in them, because there's NO MORE STORY to tell.

Yet Link does a Groundhog Day and continually repeats three days to stop the moon. This again to lead to infinite timelines pretty much. EDIT: And if Nintendo were to continue with this "timeline", they'd probably go with the canonical ending where the moon is stopped. Although with this timeline it basically shows Nintendo will say a big ol' "fuck you" to logical plot development and expansion and just use non canonical plot threads. I'm betting their next game takes place in an alternate dimension where Link never learned how to swim in Wind Waker and died when he slipped out of the boat before the first temple. Then evil took over and the world split into smaller worlds with their own types of gravity and environment. A new Hero of Time then arises (probably Link from Ocarina of Time when Zelda decides to shoot him into the future here but use her Magical Fairy Dust to make sure he doesn't age) and has to complete a series of platforming challenges to stop Ganondorf from becoming larger and more powerful. We'll call it Super Zelda Galaxy.

Time travel is an ultimate form of terrible deus ex machina. If anything it shows poor writing and development on their part. There's times when it works when it's well written and thoroughly explained (Back to the Future, Star Trek when it's not that bullshit Enterprise pulled), but basically just using it to create as many parallel universes as you want is just an incredibly shitty way to string together the unrelated plots of several games in a single series. This timeline isn't "deep" or "well thought out".
 
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