Kim Jong Il has Died

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I felt bad the years back when the photos first showed up showing his state of health. It doesn't matter what the man did and and how horrible his rule may have been for those stuck with him--seeing someone in that state bothers me. No one should have to experience that.
Bullshit, I'm guessing you would say the same for Hitler?
 
The cult of personality he had was crazy

North Korean schools teach children that Jong-il's birth was "supernatural." He was born in a log cabin inside a secret base on the sacred Mt. Paekdu, the story goes, and his arrival was accompanied by the apparition of a new star. The seasons then spontaneously changed from winter to spring, and a double-rainbow appeared, followed by a talking iceberg. (Western accounts say he was born in a guerrilla camp in Russia.)

Although if you've been born in a place where this is all you've been told is this stuff from birth and you're not allowed to access external media reports, I guess that's what you'd believe. And I suppose it's not any more zany than the story of the birth of Jesus, which plently of educated westerners believe. Talking icebergs, talking snakes, potato, patahto...
 
The best "inside look" of North Korea I've seen can be watched in the show "Vice Guide to Travel" North Korea episode. It's not on streaming on Netflix anymore, but if you can find it I very highly recommend it.
 
It's the South Korean president's (Lee Myung-bak) birthday today.

So best birthday gift ever?

Not really, they've gone from an unpredictable sod to a situation of the unknown. Pwoer vaccum innit.

It's about time. But can the name "Kim Jong" stop?

Nope, if my know my korean names the Kim is their family name.
 
FYI, the cause of death was a heart attack. He was a heavy smoker, so it's no surprise.

East Asia in general still has a smoking problem, China's got worse, Japan is still up there but has got slightly better, Korea is the same as 15 years ago.
 
Looks like his Korea is over.

On a more serious note, I hope that in at least some way his son rules better than he did. I don't know a lot about the whole situation (nor do I hugely care - politics bore me), but I know the people of North Korea had poor living conditions under his rule. Anything that improves that is welcome in my opinion. (Regardless, I am not glad he has died - I will not rejoice in the death of a human, no matter how corrupt and evil).
 
I felt bad the years back when the photos first showed up showing his state of health. It doesn't matter what the man did and and how horrible his rule may have been for those stuck with him--seeing someone in that state bothers me. No one should have to experience that.
Bullshit, I'm guessing you would say the same for Hitler?
Well, let's think about this: he took his own life, as far as the sources show. That's very different from dying from something out of your control, such as Kim's illness, Qadaffi's beating and pulling, and Mussolini's mistress. Hitler chose to take his own life, in complete responsibility. Life in these others was taken from them.

It's not a matter of qualifying his life's worth against everyone who was harmed by that same life. It's the suffering of life itself which I am sorry for, no matter who the person is.
 
Looks like his Korea is over.

On a more serious note, I hope that in at least some way his son rules better than he did. I don't know a lot about the whole situation (nor do I hugely care - politics bore me), but I know the people of North Korea had poor living conditions under his rule. Anything that improves that is welcome in my opinion. (Regardless, I am not glad he has died - I will not rejoice in the death of a human, no matter how corrupt and evil).


it will be the same jsut look at cuba fidel castro brother raul castro is the same monster
 
I felt bad the years back when the photos first showed up showing his state of health. It doesn't matter what the man did and and how horrible his rule may have been for those stuck with him--seeing someone in that state bothers me. No one should have to experience that.
Bullshit, I'm guessing you would say the same for Hitler?
Well, let's think about this: he took his own life, as far as the sources show. That's very different from dying from something out of your control, such as Kim's illness, Qadaffi's beating and pulling, and Mussolini's mistress. Hitler chose to take his own life, in complete responsibility. Life in these others was taken from them.

It's not a matter of qualifying his life's worth against everyone who was harmed by that same life. It's the suffering of life itself which I am sorry for, no matter who the person is.
So its okay to ruin the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, but as long as you kill yourself or get killed its OKAY.
 

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