SCOTUS about to kill Voting Rights Act

[SeltzerMist]

it's just the usual parroting of a far-right talking point dressed as something else.

Indeed, as usual, disproportionate importance is given to empty land.

It's why I felt the need to state that land mass is not sentient. They clearly have some kind of disconnect here.

 

[Foxi4]

Indeed, as usual, disproportionate importance is given to empty land.

This is exactly the kind of attitude I’m talking about, distilled and exemplified, when I say that the priorities of someone who lives in the country do not align with the priorities of someone who lives in a city. Those voters must protect themselves and their interests, otherwise they will be dismissed as “empty land”, another dot in a connect-the-dots game.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

This is exactly the kind of attitude I’m talking about, distilled and exemplified, when I say that the priorities of someone who lives in the country do not align with the priorities of someone who lives in a city. Those voters must protect themselves and their interests, otherwise they will be dismissed as “empty land”, another dot in a connect-the-dots game.

The kind of attitude that, say, should say that landlords are not more important than city people?

 

[SeltzerMist]

LMAO land isn't sentient dude.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

LMAO land isn't sentient dude.

*snort* I had an easy joke

 

[Foxi4]

LMAO land isn't sentient dude.

Right, so it’s not sentient, but it does have race? Duly noted. I’m sorry that the SCOTUS ruined the literal racial line in Louisiana. Perhaps the legislature should not racially segregate people as a priority next time and consider other aspects of living.

 

[SeltzerMist]

*snort* I had an easy joke

It's just weird because they're so fixated on it, and yet as I pointed out already it's the liberal voters who are actually more concerned about farmers than they are themselves, as they voted against their best interests in 2024 and need bailouts on account of the Trump tarrifs.

Which, us liberal taxpayers have to foot the bill for!

So they're just spinning wheels here.

 

[Foxi4]

It's just weird because they're so fixated on it, and yet as I pointed out already it's the liberal voters who are actually more concerned about farmers than they are themselves, as they voted against their best interests in 2024 and need bailouts on account of the Trump tarrifs.

Which, us liberal taxpayers have to foot the bill for!

So they're just spinning wheels here.

You should go on tour and tell those farmers how they should vote, that’s not condescending at all.

 

[Moe87]

I'm all for end the all of gerrymandering.

If the map is compact and has majority minority population that is based on community, so it wouldn't be considered as racial gerrymandering because it needs to be deliberate.

I don't understand about why US Supreme Court is fine with partisan gerrymandering but not racial gerrymandering. If they welcome partisan gerrymandering so they must accept racial gerrymandering too.

Not quite, many of the gerrymanders GOP has been doing has been dummymanders. And the GOP is already not doing so well with even white voters.

I suspect a complete blow out of the GOP. The gerrymanders are going to be too little too late. And with democrats deciding to no longer hold their punches, it would not shock me if they get aggressive with gerrymanders. GOP can't squeeze that many more seats since they've already been relying on it, Democrats can.

It's not ideal, it's not wanted. This could of been avoided had the GOP voted to stop gerrymandering with Democrats back in 2021.
But at this point they don't leave a choice.

Agreed with you, democrats didn't have choice but went with partisan gerrymandering, otherwise they would be at greater disadvantage.

 

[SeltzerMist]

You should go on tour and tell those farmers how they should vote, that’s not condescending at all.

They can keep touching the hot stove at this point idk but I do care that I gotta pay for their injury.

LMAO "go on tour" though what the fuck do you think campaigning is?

Can't do anything to sway the wilfully ignorant. We can't be condescending to the people that fucked up in a way affecting everyone. You keep clutching those pearls.

 

[Foxi4]

They can keep touching the hot stove at this point idk but I do care that I gotta pay for their injury.

LMAO "go on tour" though what the fuck do you think campaigning is?

Can't do anything to sway the wilfully ignorant.

You are correct, it’s their decision. By artificially lumping them up into a district with large cities you are causing both, nullifying their voting rights *and* accepting the responsibility of paying for what you perceive as their mistakes, since they now fall under the same representatives who are faced with balancing diametrically opposed interests of people who are not alike. Congratulations, you’re making my point stronger for me.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

You are correct, it’s their decision. By artificially lumping them up into a district with large cities you are causing both, nullifying their voting rights

completely false, this somehow comes with the false idea that in the city there are no people who vote like farmers.

Congratulations, you’re making my point stronger for me.

Not really, you made your point weaker by admitting that farmer votes matter more.

 

[SeltzerMist]

You are correct, it’s their decision. By artificially lumping them up into a district with large cities you are causing both, nullifying their voting rights *and* accepting the responsibility of paying for what you perceive as their mistakes, since they now fall under the same representatives who are faced with balancing diametrically opposed interests of people who are not alike. Congratulations, you’re making my point stronger for me.

I see, people who live in rural areas just need 2-3x the voting power of people in the big cities. It's only fair that they get more say even though they contribute less in taxes because they live in the country and their values and ideology are just 100% different than the city folk.

Fucking clown.

 

[Foxi4]

completely false, this somehow comes with the false idea that in the city there are no people who vote like farmers.

I said that they have different priorities and different interests, which they do. Both of those things inform their vote.

Not really, you made your point weaker by admitting that farmer votes matter more.

I never said that.

I see, people who live in rural areas just need 2-3x the voting power of people in the big cities. It's only fair that they get more say even though they contribute less in taxes because they live in the country and their values and ideology are just 100% different than the city folk.

Fucking clown.

“It doesn’t matter how you make a living, or even where you live. What really matters is whether you’re black or not.”

Explicitly racist.

 

[SeltzerMist]

I said that they have different priorities and different interests, which they do. Both of those things inform their vote.

Hasn't been proven btw

 

[Moe87]

@Foxi4 , Just curious, do you support the partisan gerrymandering?

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I see, people who live in rural areas just need 2-3x the voting power of people in the big cities. It's only fair that they get more say even though they contribute less in taxes because they live in the country and their values and ideology are just 100% different than the city folk.

Fucking clown.

Yeah, rural normally get larger congressional district due to low population count.

Urban gets smaller congressional district because of more population in small area.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

@Foxi4 , Just curious, do you support the partisan gerrymandering?

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Yeah, rural normally get larger congressional district due to low population count.

Urban gets smaller congressional district because of more population in small area.

Don't expect any sensible answer, just some waffle as if talking with an alien, paired with some doublespeak about racism and discrimination

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Yeah, rural normally get larger congressional district due to low population count.

Urban gets smaller congressional district because of more population in small area.

For the smooth brained here, this means that rural votes enjoy a 1.7x multiplier while urban votes suffer a 0.8x one. I wish we just had a 1x for every vote.

 

[Foxi4]

@Foxi4 , Just curious, do you support the partisan gerrymandering?

I don’t “support gerrymandering” in general, I already stated that I believe districts should be charted based on what different communities have in common, such as their way of life, their socio-economic situation, their geographical location, all of those things are far more important and relevant than their race or stated political affiliation. I brought up the example of a pot hole and I will happily do it again - a pot hole will damage your car whether you voted Harris or Trump, it makes no distinction. What matters is who the pot hole affects in terms of location, whether it affects commerce in the state in general and whether there’s any real urgency in addressing it, among other things. For some reason this common sense approach is controversial, as if the pot hole cared about the race of the driver, or who they voted for. Districts will look weird until people collectively divorce themselves from that kind of thinking and focus on issues that affect their daily lives, both in the immediate present and the coming future.

 

[SeltzerMist]

I don’t “support gerrymandering”

districts should be charted based on what different communities have in common, such as their way of life, their socio-economic situation, their geographical location

You support gerrymandering dude.

 

[Foxi4]

You support gerrymandering dude.

Keyword being unfair. People who lead similar lives will be more similar in the way they vote. That is not “unfair”, that’s happenstance. You’re trying to tell me that the expected result in terms of voting power should take precedence over the actual issues facing specific communities. Your kind of thinking is the root cause of the problem. I don’t care how people choose to vote, that is their decision informed by their experiences. I do care that they get to be fairly represented by government representatives who are familiar with their area and have an intimate understanding of their way of life and their daily struggles. That is *more* important to me than your points tally.