Donald Trump and Bill Clinton attended orgy parties with underage girls.

[urherenow]

I imagine your brain is especially exhausted after that series of mental gymnastics, and it's not like it had the energy to spare in the first place. Phew!

That all you got? At least it seems titan_tim is beginning to see where I stand and trying to have a constructive and fairly civil discussion. You either reply with no substance at all, or post things that you think prove your point... that really do not. Keep trying though, little bud!

 

[SeltzerMist]

That all you got? At least it seems titan_tim is beginning to see where I stand and trying to have a constructive and fairly civil discussion. You either reply with no substance at all, or post things that you think prove your point... that really do not. Keep trying though, little bud!

What was your stance on a judge clarify that Trump committed rape by the dictionary definition of the word again?

You agree or you disagree with the judge?

 

[titan_tim]

The videos would absolutely be the nail in the coffin, depending on the content. People keep posting pics of Trump with Epstein, but they are always from Parties and receptions that they were at in the 90's. Seeing a video of them in the same room from the 90's, with a whole lot of other people that are dressed up, just won't do anything for the cause. A fairly public (for pageant attendees, etc) party in New York and Mara Lago aren't news. But absolutely yes, let's get the videos reviewed.

And if they decide that the videos aren't going to be reviewed? Will you start getting angry then? Seems like an odd thing that the contents haven't come to light since all the accusations would easily be proven or disproven more than any email.

As for the diary pages... don't know what to say about that. Again, mentioning that someone thinks it's 5 letters, is specifically implying "Trump". But I don't know many young people who refer to anyone by their last name. Except in previous pages when she did address people as Mr. <name>. Ivanka's husband is Jared, that's also 5 letters. Someone from congress is bound to get a look at the unredacted paper though. The only sin I keep getting ganged up in here about, is that I try not to speculate (I at least try not to blatantly accuse someone of a serious crime without proof that I think would hold up in court). Every one of you are speculating with extreme bias.

I don't know if the diary ever mentions Trump, it's just horrible to read and shows that the victims need to be believed.

Trump being involved is more than just speculation. He was HEAVILY involved and knowledgeable in what Epstein did. It's already been proven in the releases that Melania was an Epstein girl introduced to Trump. The conversations between them with the birthday card which Trump denied ever writing. The subtle hits in interviews about Epstein liking girls on the younger side. There are multiple accusers who's testimonies line up with timing and details that are corroborated by other victims.

EDIT: Oh, and that e-mail? Dated 2014. I sure am willing to bet that's not Trump's name that's redacted. And would like to see who it actually is. One can only hope that thIs particular redaction IS INDEED LEGAL, because they are actively trying to build a case on this person. Considering they didn't redact Musk's name... maybe this person is actually in one of the videos, giving enough evidence for a case?

Not saying this one was Trump specifically, but it's evidence that they're without a doubt protecting the wrong people. And as I mentioned, the FBI specifically did review to remove his name from the documents. There are so many other examples out there, but this one really creeped me out. Musk not being redacted may be just another sign that Trump's DOJ is following his own revenge commands. We can only hope that if he keeps having the DOJ point at Bill Gates, Musk, etc, they'll start bringing up evidence against Trump in retaliation. Let them eat themselves.

Edit: Oh, there's also been duplicate documents in the 3 million which weren't redacted the same as each other. One would redact the perpetrator, the other would forget to. So you can plainly see they aren't protecting only the victims, as the law requires.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

So

Will you start getting angry then

Nope, it will be just moving the goalposts

 

[titan_tim]

So

Nope, it will be just moving the goalposts

Just trying to get things in writing so that when it does/doesn't happen we have something to go back to.

If we asked him before 2016 if Trump said on tape that he gropes women without them asking because he's famous, he would have definitely said that he would never support him. So now we need to get these things out before they happen.

 

[cearp]

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 12/EFTA02731433.pdf

That's rough. I've been quickly reading through it, she references this guy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Black
(and a bunch of other people too, good on her for writing it down. strange they wouldn't have all used fake names)

 

[LoggerMan]

How it could have been a "secret" for this long is staggering, if true. There must have been so many witnesses, so much gossip.

 

[titan_tim]

How it could have been a "secret" for this long is staggering, if true. There must have been so many witnesses, so much gossip.

Lots of stories of people coming forward a long time ago, but they were ignored. Epstein donated a lot of money to the police department fundraisers as well, which definitely helped him in some areas. Once the police found out who Epstein was connected to, they stopped investigating.

 

[Sir Tortoise]

As for the diary pages... don't know what to say about that. Again, mentioning that someone thinks it's 5 letters, is specifically implying "Trump". But I don't know many young people who refer to anyone by their last name. Except in previous pages when she did address people as Mr. <name>. Ivanka's husband is Jared, that's also 5 letters. Someone from congress is bound to get a look at the unredacted paper though. The only sin I keep getting ganged up in here about, is that I try not to speculate (I at least try not to blatantly accuse someone of a serious crime without proof that I think would hold up in court). Every one of you are speculating with extreme bias.

The Ivana Trump married to Jared is Trump's daughter, and she's never been divorced. So the clipping presumably refers to her mother, also called Ivana Trump. I think I see where the misunderstanding came from.

But, yes, it could be another name. I think it's extremely suspicious how Trump fits the name, has a direct connection to the following sentence, and would also have a vested interest in hiding his own name in the files he is in charge of releasing...but I don't know what's behind that censor. But that's one possible reason for it, and I'm not seeing many better explanations.

Its not really any better if it was Jared or anyone else though. The Trump admin covering for a different person is just as bad, maybe arguably more so.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Sorry, but anything you say about _______ not being in the files, therefore they're in the clear is 100% pointless. We already know for a fact that they went through and redacted as much of Trump as they could from them. We have files like THIS which clearly show that they're protecting the rapists:

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There's really NO context they can use to squirm out of that one. So you're free to attempt to say Trump isn't implicated, but you and I both know that they're protecting him and his friends. The evidence for Trump being deeply involved is probative and not just circumstantial at this point. You gain absolutely nothing from being this belligerent in the face of the continued evidence that keeps coming out. Remember, they still have terabytes of videos which SHOULD be the nail in the coffin for all these pedos, the question is if they'll have someone review them. I can't imagine they'd release them, as that would be illegal in itself unless they have someone censor them all.

At this point, we might as well say it is Trump, and it will be up to him to prove his innocence. We already know they are purposefully redacting him name from as many pages as possible, and the law requires all redactions to have explanations. So how can this be explained other than to protect the sickos?

 

[The Catboy]

How it could have been a "secret" for this long is staggering, if true. There must have been so many witnesses, so much gossip.

People have been coming forward for decades now, but were ignored by the media, called "conspiracy theorists", or were straight-up killed and framed as "suicides." Never forget, the government is involved in this stuff. Government agencies have distributed CSEM. Government officials, royal families, the elites, and anyone with influence in global affairs have been doing this shit long before Epstein and are clearly planning on continuing. The fact that people have deluded themselves into thinking any politician, law enforcement, or government-affiliated organization is going to do anything is stupid, simple as. This is why voting is a joke, trusting or supporting any politician is idiotic, and why people need to do more than just vote or stupid protests to correct this problem

 

[titan_tim]

At this point, we might as well say it is Trump, and it will be up to him to prove his innocence.

Nah, there's no point. The main purpose that one is good for is just to show who their loyalty is to. First he needs to admit to himself that the "investigation" is a sham.

We already know they are purposefully redacting him name from as many pages as possible, and the law requires all redactions to have explanations. So how can this be explained other than to protect the sickos?

Yep, when they redact information like that for privilege, they need to have a privilege log to go with all these things. Not sure how they'd describe that one as being privilege due to victim name.

Even at this point, he himself said "One can only hope that this particular redaction IS INDEED LEGAL", which shows that he's relying purely on his own hope and not what we've already seen. The evidence is there. They're protecting the perpetrators and think nobody will be able to do anything.

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More evidence that the DOJ is protecting the wrong people. So damn blatant.....

 

[Vixi]

Only a pedophile would try to defend the current administration from what's in the pedo files.

 

[titan_tim]

Damn you, Sultan Bin Sulayem for making me laugh at the Epstein files!

 

[The Catboy]

Damn you, Sultan Bin Sulayem for making me laugh at the Epstein files!

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Bro, lol. I was prepared for such a banger

 

[Vixi]

https://futurism.com/future-society/cryptocurrency-jeffrey-epstein-bitcoin

Cryptobros are gutwrenched after finding the writing on the wall.

 

[Nakamichi]

People have been coming forward for decades now, but were ignored by the media, called "conspiracy theorists", or were straight-up killed and framed as "suicides." Never forget, the government is involved in this stuff. Government agencies have distributed CSEM. Government officials, royal families, the elites, and anyone with influence in global affairs have been doing this shit long before Epstein and are clearly planning on continuing. The fact that people have deluded themselves into thinking any politician, law enforcement, or government-affiliated organization is going to do anything is stupid, simple as. This is why voting is a joke, trusting or supporting any politician is idiotic, and why people need to do more than just vote or stupid protests to correct this problem

someone did try, he missed tho.

 

[urherenow]

It's already been proven in the releases that Melania was an Epstein girl introduced to Trump.

they aren't protecting only the victims, as the law requires.

How is it proven that Melania was an "Epstein girl"? You cannot deny that she was 28 when Trump met her. A testimony from 1 person said that Epstein introduced them. Doesn't mean she was one of "his" girls. And that could have been a misunderstanding, because she happened to be on Epstein's plane. As far as I can tell, this article covers both sides of the story:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epste...-he-introduced-melania-to-trump-files-reveal/

Then there's this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...nocking-down-epstein-stories-false-rcna223940


The law doesn't say "only the victims"

(C)
would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;

(D)
depict or contain images of death, physical abuse, or injury of any person; or

(E)
contain information specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order.

 

[Vixi]

The law doesn't say "only the victims"

Victims + anyone protected by Pedodent's executive orders. Got it

 

[The Catboy]

someone did try, he missed tho.

Ngl, I am convinced that was staged